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Wed Mar 31, 2021, 03:55 PM

Fringe benefit of vaccine passports

This may be obvious, but this thought occurred to me only recently.

Gone are the days of the Jim Crow laws where minority groups are explicitly denied freedoms enjoyed by others. Nowadays the persecution is more subtle. Instead of calling out "undesirable" groups by name, laws are kept on the books which can be disproportionally applied to them. Examples of this include marijuana laws, parole searches, and "bathroom bills". There are many, many others. In addition to laws, there are rules enforced by companies and schools around things like uniforms, hairstyles, and even wedding cakes.

Generally speaking, these tools of discrimination always seems to be wielded by privileged white right-wingers in defiance of the outrage of the left.

Until now.

Now there is discussion of a vaccine passport. Those who opt out of getting a vaccine will encounter headwinds trying to go about their daily routine. They will encounter headwinds boarding a plane, entering an arena, using mass transit, travelling across state lines, etc. Recent polls show that Republicans are three to four times as likely as Democrats to opt out of getting the vaccine. Republicans will be far more likely to get mired in the quagmire of not having a passport as they watch their Democratic peers go merrily about their day.

So it's the proverbial taste of one's own medicine.

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Reply Fringe benefit of vaccine passports (Original post)
Shermann Mar 31 OP
ProudMNDemocrat Mar 31 #1
louis-t Mar 31 #2
BobsYourUncle Mar 31 #15
eppur_se_muova Mar 31 #31
DENVERPOPS Mar 31 #32
Biophilic Mar 31 #3
Mr.Bill Mar 31 #4
DBoon Mar 31 #7
iluvtennis Mar 31 #13
Shermann Mar 31 #24
Mr.Bill Mar 31 #19
Shermann Mar 31 #5
FakeNoose Mar 31 #6
Harker Mar 31 #8
FakeNoose Mar 31 #10
Harker Mar 31 #12
IronLionZion Mar 31 #9
AllaN01Bear Mar 31 #11
Raftergirl Mar 31 #14
NurseJackie Mar 31 #16
dhol82 Mar 31 #20
3Hotdogs Mar 31 #17
Raftergirl Mar 31 #18
Mr.Bill Mar 31 #21
NoMoreRepugs Mar 31 #22
keithbvadu2 Mar 31 #23
Shermann Mar 31 #25
CaptainTruth Mar 31 #26
perfessor Mar 31 #27
tritsofme Mar 31 #28
Shermann Mar 31 #33
roamer65 Mar 31 #29
roamer65 Mar 31 #30
JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 1 #35
radicalleft Apr 1 #36
WhiteTara Apr 1 #34

Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:14 PM

1. Hey, My Body, My Choice Republicans!

I will be proud to show proof I have been vaccinated.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:15 PM

2. I think we can look forward to more MAGA outbursts

in airports and enjoy more videos of the crazies acting out.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:06 PM

15. Sounds like

We may need to keep our vaccine passports in our bulletproof vest?

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Response to louis-t (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:55 PM

31. Set tasers to "Heavy Karma" ! nt

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Response to louis-t (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:55 PM

32. How about giving two percent of them

Darwin Awards

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:16 PM

3. Well this gave me a smile. A great thought.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:29 PM

4. They're going to have to come up

with some sort of ID that is not easy to counterfeit. The card they gave me when I got vaccinated could be faked by a 12 year-old with access to a Xerox machine. It didn't even have my name on it. They told me to fill it out myself. They also need to pass laws with severe penalties for faking one.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:53 PM

7. they need to put a barcode that can be scanned and linked into a back end

sort of like how debit cards work.

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Response to DBoon (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:03 PM

13. +++ agree. South Korea already has automated system that works with cell phone app. nt

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:01 PM

24. That's probably not the best predictor of what we'll see

They had an effective launch of their contact tracing app last year. We had a half-hearted mish mash of shitty apps that never caught on.

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Response to DBoon (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:24 PM

19. I don't know about other states,

but my driver's license has a magnetic strip on it. Maybe they could load the vaccination info into that strip. And for those who don't drive, the DMV ID card has the same configuration as the DL.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:41 PM

5. I have a talking point ready to go to respond to criticisms over the program

"Getting the vaccine is even easier than getting a voter ID card!"

I'm actually looking forward to this.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:46 PM

6. The Repukes are already making fake vaccine passports for a fee



Small-town 'pukes will probably have trouble passing them off, but big city a-holes will get away with it just fine.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:56 PM

8. In NY, vaccinations are pretty well documented, it seems.

Anything documenting my status in that regard would presumably be state issued, and thus could be as secure as a driver's license.

If it's a municipal or county scrap of paper, there's no value in it.

How do these counterfeiters know what to make?

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Response to Harker (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:00 PM

10. I don't know but a few have been caught already

I don't think they're very smart.


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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:02 PM

12. Guess not.

Maybe the handwritten 4◊6 index card covered in plastic wrap wasn't convincing.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 04:56 PM

9. Maybe, it also depends on if people have kept good records

folks who got vaccinated already may have lost their cards. State and local governments were issuing vaccines and may not have kept the best records. Same with the various retail location where people got vaccinated. I would keep my card, but I'm sure lots of people have not.

Then there are fake cards that people can forge. So not sure how accurate any passport would be if/when the US implements it.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:00 PM

11. i didnt waste my dose .

great o.p .

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:05 PM

14. There will be an app.

Already have one in NYS.

The passport will go in my wallet on my phone.

Already you need to have one in NYS to go to a pro sports game and now college sports. If you arenít vaccinated you will need to produce a negative test - the results of which will also. E uploaded to your phone.

I think most people who refuse to get vaccinated will tire quickly of having to get a test before being able to do things.

Iím sure pretty soon for concerts, Broadway and anywhere else large crowds gather will be subjected to the same regulation.

And also, if you want to fly internationally or enter any country, they are going to want proof you are vaccinated (and not a card that can be easily forged.) And if one isnít vaccinated it will mean more testing before and after you reach your destination and a quarantine up to two weeks at your expense. Most people are not going to want to have to do that.

The people who refuse will just not have as much freedom as the rest of us. Their choice.

NYS Dept of Health gets your vaccination info as soon as you get your first shot. Even just making an appointment gets you a reply from DOH with a submission ID#.

Iím sure every single state is doing the same thing.

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Response to Raftergirl (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:07 PM

16. It could be a question on whatever the popular dating apps are...

... the anti-vax daters will have a little cartoon icon of a covid virus in the top corner of their photo.

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Response to Raftergirl (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:27 PM

20. Yeah, I was surprised when I got a notification about my second shot from the DOH

I had been scheduled one day later than the usual (March 25 instead of 24).
I got a text on the 24th that I was late and needed to get my shot. Didnít know it was that closely controlled.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:14 PM

17. CDC has a record of my vaccs. I still get text messages once a week about how I am feeling/symptoms.

I recall there was a bar code to my iPhone to register with CDC.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:23 PM

18. Oh yeah

forgot about that.

I registered and take the survey (now just once a week.) Iím sure after I get my 2nd shot it will be daily again.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:28 PM

21. The bottom line is maybe we cant make people get vaccinated,

but we can make them wish they had.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:31 PM

22. You hit the proverbial nail on the head Shermann.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:48 PM

23. Forging vaccination cards

Health-Care Workers Are Bragging on TikTok About Forging Vax Cards

The kind of integrity that would steal expensive medicine and sell it by swapping it for fake medicine.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/health-care-workers-are-bragging-on-tiktok-about-forging-vax-cards






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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:12 PM

25. Some facilities will probably just be spot-checking vaccine passports

One sure-fired way to get pulled out of line will be to wear a MAGA hat.

"Your papers, please"

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:14 PM

26. When I can attend live concerts again it would be great to know I wasn't packed in...

...with anti-vax reich-wingers.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:23 PM

27. "The law, in its majestic equality ...

... forbids both rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, to steal bread." - Anatole France

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:24 PM

28. Its a fun narrative, but the data shows it is minority groups who are lagging behind in getting jabs

And who will suffer disproportionately.

Iím also a bit skeptical of those polls at this point, itís one thing for a ďtough guyĒ Trumper to tell a pollster heís not getting vaccinated, but it will take time to know if theyíve actually followed through.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #28)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 07:23 PM

33. I've no doubt the MAGA upper brass have already quietly gotten vaccinated

At least we can harass the MAGA mouth-breathers with this. Make them question their life choices, if only for a moment.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:45 PM

29. They should be segregated.

They are a health threat.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 06:46 PM

30. We should make it a chip in the right hand or the forehead.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:12 AM

35. It's already a microchip in the shoulder. They insert it when you get the vaccine.

They know where you are at all times. No reason the voting precinct clerk can't scan it.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:30 AM

36. Mark of the beast

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666."

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Thu Apr 1, 2021, 06:38 AM

34. these things look very easy to forge

and viola, vaxholes are still among us.

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