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put the white back in the whitehouse (Original Post) arely staircase Oct 2012 OP
and that's what it's all about( with most of the teabaggers) lunasun Oct 2012 #1
yes arely staircase Oct 2012 #5
I do think the walls need painting. BrainMann1 Oct 2012 #129
Could you please explain what you are saying? Raine1967 Oct 2012 #167
the TEApigs are calling this a "false flag" action HankyDub Oct 2012 #141
What the hay does that mean, anyway? efhmc Oct 2012 #152
It's pretending to be something you're not for tactical advantage.... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #164
Photoshop contest!!!!! SemperEadem Oct 2012 #158
What does this racist have to do with holding Obama's feet to the fire? *confused* GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #2
4 weeks before an election is not the time to arely staircase Oct 2012 #3
+1 (gazillion) Raine1967 Oct 2012 #168
and also arely staircase Oct 2012 #10
Absolutely. All those arguments will become moot with privatization. We'll decide the next 20 years. freshwest Oct 2012 #17
i live in texas, and yes arely staircase Oct 2012 #52
No rules apply under GOP rule, but continued rule. freshwest Oct 2012 #56
Call the SoS. The hotline number is 1-800-252-VOTE efhmc Oct 2012 #132
it happened during the primaries arely staircase Oct 2012 #138
All of these cases need to be documented and just the act of pulling out your efhmc Oct 2012 #150
You have a point. robinlynne Oct 2012 #57
Resistance is futile siligut Oct 2012 #75
Yep. Exactly. cliffordu Oct 2012 #97
Good post freshwest. airplaneman Oct 2012 #110
The deeper shit chervilant Oct 2012 #125
I have already resolved we are probably done for as a species. airplaneman Oct 2012 #126
I am 56, chervilant Oct 2012 #143
George Orwell Saviolo Oct 2012 #118
Most of us had to dissect that book in high school in Houston in the sixties. freshwest Oct 2012 #123
Thoughtful reply Saviolo Oct 2012 #128
I've had people come up to me and say just that. fasttense Oct 2012 #149
Well, since you ask... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #64
I usually agree with you, but I'm not really sure what you mean here. harmonicon Oct 2012 #67
I'm saying the treatment of Obama is racist Scootaloo Oct 2012 #73
Hold on... harmonicon Oct 2012 #77
It's pretty obvious that's not what I'm saying at all. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #80
Well, Clinton's not in office or running for office now, so I don't entirely see your comparison. harmonicon Oct 2012 #82
I was a Kucinich Supporter, but by the time PA voted, I voted for Obama kooljerk666 Oct 2012 #106
+1000000000000000000000000000000000 treestar Oct 2012 #91
Lord love a Duck...Clinton was no progressive.... Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #130
"That boy's fault" MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #139
Yes, yes, how dare I point out what is being said. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #140
$25 if you can find that quote from a regular DUer MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #154
I'm talking about attitudes expressed, Manny Scootaloo Oct 2012 #160
So let me know if I have this right: MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #162
So THAT'S why they call them REDNECKS! Barack_America Oct 2012 #4
That's worst than a redneck. Cleita Oct 2012 #6
certain people arely staircase Oct 2012 #7
His skinhead shave? Stinky The Clown Oct 2012 #12
Yep. Back in the day, the skinhead was the mark of a neo-Nazi. phasma ex machina Oct 2012 #59
Not this shit again. harmonicon Oct 2012 #69
Nope. Didn't need to watch Geraldo to know about skinheads. And no, long hair's phasma ex machina Oct 2012 #86
Yet you think skinheads are all neo-nazis? harmonicon Oct 2012 #87
Never said that. Neo-nazies use skinheads as part of their identity. phasma ex machina Oct 2012 #88
Still the racists have adopted it treestar Oct 2012 #92
But it gives no indication that the guy is a skinhead. harmonicon Oct 2012 #113
I agree in fact it's the new way to handle baldness treestar Oct 2012 #121
I used to live in Idaho. I witnessed their parades through town. Cleita Oct 2012 #98
that's why they are supporting romey arely staircase Oct 2012 #8
Umm... harmonicon Oct 2012 #70
Having grown up in Jesusland, I prefer the perjoratives "shitkicker" or "Yahoo" to coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #74
Well, here in the north the term exists too. harmonicon Oct 2012 #79
I confess to using it to insult right wingers BainsBane Oct 2012 #83
How is it that this guy is so comfortable there? MrSlayer Oct 2012 #9
you, as you know arely staircase Oct 2012 #11
I do NOT want to have my country run by people like this! freshwest Oct 2012 #13
This garbage is all over NJRick1006 Oct 2012 #33
+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #37
I also a LOT of people believe the Birther and Muslim crap maryellen99 Oct 2012 #46
Your "blue state" of New Jersey has more hate groups than my 'red state' of Tennessee.. Ghost in the Machine Oct 2012 #66
+1! uponit7771 Oct 2012 #78
+ desertduck Oct 2012 #114
For me the biggest problem here is the malaise Oct 2012 #90
Lovely. Where do you think the swastika tatoo is? Liberal In Texas Oct 2012 #14
which one? arely staircase Oct 2012 #45
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Animosity towards white pride?? 2theleft Oct 2012 #18
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You're either stupid or trolling. Hugabear Oct 2012 #49
'Lots of people vote for politicians who have characteristics in common with themselves.' freshwest Oct 2012 #81
What? This pic is blatantly racist. BainsBane Oct 2012 #21
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He is upset a black man is in the white house BainsBane Oct 2012 #30
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They take pride in a shared African ancestry BainsBane Oct 2012 #38
That racist with the hidden posts treestar Oct 2012 #93
Racist piece of shit. Get the fuck out of here. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #27
nice logic and language syncreticist Oct 2012 #28
No really,I meant it. GTFO DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #32
It's gone. Tombstoned. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #47
I was never so happy to be on a jury Pithlet Oct 2012 #51
I never was so happy to alert wtmusic Oct 2012 #53
Yep. It felt good to have a zero-ambiguity post to adjudicate. nt Codeine Oct 2012 #54
*sputter!* Indpndnt Oct 2012 #58
Keep an eye out folks! defacto7 Oct 2012 #61
we hardly knew ya arely staircase Oct 2012 #44
He's gone EvolveOrConvolve Oct 2012 #48
+1 complain jane Oct 2012 #65
White pride? lol OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #29
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #31
You can't possibly Be a Democrat BainsBane Oct 2012 #40
Canadian bacon with extra cheese? proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #43
I tell you Skittles Oct 2012 #85
+ a gazillion. chervilant Oct 2012 #127
Well, looks like Obama has at least ONE racist supporter Hugabear Oct 2012 #35
Wow, racist troll didn't last very long. Hugabear Oct 2012 #50
When did he get out of prison? BainsBane Oct 2012 #16
white americans for arely staircase Oct 2012 #20
He's wearing the shirt that the others there wish they had the guts to wear. Whovian Oct 2012 #19
no kidding arely staircase Oct 2012 #22
This has been continous since January, 2009. freshwest Oct 2012 #23
they want their country back arely staircase Oct 2012 #25
So do the native americans. Everyone will have to just get over it. freshwest Oct 2012 #34
well put arely staircase Oct 2012 #41
Punk assed bitch! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #26
he shames his country....fuckwad spanone Oct 2012 #42
Shirt guy is a disgusting piece of filth. Teabaggers make frogmarch Oct 2012 #55
Thanks for the post, arely, this is critical.. Permanut Oct 2012 #60
But Ann Coulter says there aren't any racists left in America. Bette Noir Oct 2012 #62
The Poster Skinhead for mitt and minimitt.. Cha Oct 2012 #63
That photo is clearly fake... CheapShotArtist Oct 2012 #68
Right on! Godless in Seattle Oct 2012 #71
These people make me ashamed to be white.Who the hell ever told them they were any better than anyon judesedit Oct 2012 #72
They are losers BainsBane Oct 2012 #84
No different than "He's a Muslim" "He was not born in this country" etc. etc. Just more truthful. appleannie1 Oct 2012 #76
The fact that there are racists in american has nothing to do with keeping pressure on Marrah_G Oct 2012 #89
...and the willingness, secure feeling that it's ok to show in public Sheepshank Oct 2012 #94
But Ann Coulter said there aren't any racists in America... Skidmore Oct 2012 #95
What a disgusting piece of humanity! Total arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #96
Not just him, but the Romney campaign that supplied the shirt and logo to him. AlinPA Oct 2012 #105
good point! n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #108
Wow. I didn't connect that, although I know it was professionally made. freshwest Oct 2012 #166
Dirty tricks Gradivus Oct 2012 #99
The gop is full of racist! hrmjustin Oct 2012 #104
but most racists would prefer Romney over Obama arely staircase Oct 2012 #107
Why did you assume that those tweets came from DURHAM D Oct 2012 #112
Not all Republicans are racists... NICO9000 Oct 2012 #100
They are probably handing them out them at Romney rallies. It has a Romney logo. AlinPA Oct 2012 #117
This really disgust me..... skeewee08 Oct 2012 #101
"All races should be proud of who they are" ZombieHorde Oct 2012 #109
And no one in this crowd is looking at this guy in disgust. liberalmuse Oct 2012 #102
giving bald men a bad name ... ass wipe ... n/t rsweets Oct 2012 #103
Am I the only one who thinks of Barry White when I see this shirt? Bucky Oct 2012 #111
Well actually ... blackdiamond62 Oct 2012 #122
He sure looks like he would think of those 2 ladies at the White House. efhmc Oct 2012 #134
absolutely disgusting and vile. desertduck Oct 2012 #115
From the back, this guy looks as if he is old enough that he collects social security. LoisB Oct 2012 #116
How are you going to get the black out? HipChick Oct 2012 #119
I Hope This Ignorant Asshole Manages To Find Out..... Paladin Oct 2012 #120
I think we should paint it black! santamargarita Oct 2012 #124
Intolerance elbloggoZY27 Oct 2012 #131
Yep. That's what this is allllll about. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #133
skin head much? NYtoBush-Drop Dead Oct 2012 #135
Misinformation, Fear, And Hate In America ushadrons Oct 2012 #136
wow. just f'ing wow. however arely staircase Oct 2012 #137
John 11:35, my favorite verse in the NT. He has lots to be sad about. King_Klonopin Oct 2012 #144
wear that shirt in east cleveland see what happens Tribetime Oct 2012 #142
Ugh. That guy is begging to have his ass kicked. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #145
Sometimes I wish I was a black man. B Calm Oct 2012 #146
I'm sure Joe Biden would love a second term as VP Fearless Oct 2012 #147
As disgusting as this guy and his shirt are . . . markpkessinger Oct 2012 #148
I agree with Ai chan... AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #151
Truth in advertising for the GOP. nt onehandle Oct 2012 #153
Maybe Obama should think twice about Simpson-Bowles, MannyGoldstein Oct 2012 #155
And once again, this is what is ALL boils down to... VPStoltz Oct 2012 #156
I can agree on one thing with this racist git. mwooldri Oct 2012 #157
I have said it a thousand times. KevTucky Oct 2012 #159
F**king Bigots LW1977 Oct 2012 #161
And In The End... That's What This All Comes Down Too... WillyT Oct 2012 #163
This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Oct 2012 #165
 

HankyDub

(246 posts)
141. the TEApigs are calling this a "false flag" action
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 02:55 AM
Oct 2012

just to remind you about how morally bankrupt they are.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
164. It's pretending to be something you're not for tactical advantage....
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:25 PM
Oct 2012
False flag (also known as black flag) operations are covert operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is: flying the flag of a country other than one’s own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations and can be used during peace-time.


From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

In starting WWII, Germany used one to justify its invasion of Poland.

The Gleiwitz incident in 1939 involved Reinhard Heydrich fabricating evidence of a Polish attack against Germany to mobilize German public opinion for war, to establish casus belli, and to justify the war with Poland. This, along with other false flag operations in Operation Himmler, would be used to mobilize support from the German population for the start of World War II in Europe.[citation needed]

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
3. 4 weeks before an election is not the time to
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:41 PM
Oct 2012

accentuate the differences between the moderate left and the left

this is the time to come together and defeat the real enemy!

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
168. +1 (gazillion)
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:26 PM
Oct 2012

I agree. I hear what you are saying and I totally agree.

Sometimes I do tire of the equivalency game.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
10. and also
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:08 PM
Oct 2012

you reckon this guy gives a crap about means testing and retirement age?

no he and his ilk want the n***** out of there.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. Absolutely. All those arguments will become moot with privatization. We'll decide the next 20 years.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:34 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:16 AM - Edit history (1)

Anyone who knows the GOP, knows they intend to have one-party rule. I remember when the GOP was worried about Kerry beating Bush in 2004. Their first suggestion, put out as a feeler by their minions in media, was to cancel the presidential elections. They claimed there might be a terrorist attack at the polling places. Does no one remember this?

With their blatant disenfranchisement in every state they've taken majority or gained control of elections, what have they done? Deny millions the right to vote. If we lose this year, will we still have elections? Does anyone think a one-party system pays any attention to the elections?

Look at Texas, virtually one party now, and they roll over everything. And they don't even follow the voting rules in the legislature, it's that corrupt now. Texas was not any worse than any other state. It was an experiment, using media, courts, abusing federal and state rules and the power of DHS, and see what's been done.

They want and intend to have a theocratic state, old testament laws enforced across the land. Their intentions are clear, to let their corporate masters, both foreign and the domestic ones, if any of them can truly be called American at all, sell every inch of this nation off. We will have no rights because we will have little to stand on.

We diss the Democrats at our peril, they have been weakened by big players, bigger and more ruthless, and a media that colludes with every single GOP action. Yet some find them not good enough, but they are all that we have left. It's so easy to admire the 'winning side,' the rich and powerful, who control the media and tell us it's no use to fight back.

Make it or break it, this year. That's what this is.

JMHO. EOM.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
52. i live in texas, and yes
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:10 AM
Oct 2012

our local county henchmen put "photo id equired" signs outside our polling places even though the courts had put the law on hold at he time.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
132. Call the SoS. The hotline number is 1-800-252-VOTE
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:18 PM
Oct 2012

When did this happen? Please let me know that this was reported. What county are you in?

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
138. it happened during the primaries
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:28 AM
Oct 2012

and I don't know why I didn't report it. if anyone else did nothing happened.

i should have, though i am not sure what our rick perry appointed secretary of state would have done.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
150. All of these cases need to be documented and just the act of pulling out your
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:38 AM
Oct 2012

cell phone and loudly saying you are calling should help. Take a picture. Keep this number handy.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
75. Resistance is futile
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:38 AM
Oct 2012
It's so easy to admire the 'winning side,' the rich and powerful, who control the media and tell us it's no use to fight back.


And people are actually falling for this. I read their self-destructive crap on news sites. It is the borg, without the cool headgear and body armor.


airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
110. Good post freshwest.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:32 PM
Oct 2012

I see the sure fire we are in deep shit items being:
-elimination of minimum age.
-medicare voucher system.
-eliminating social security taxes for employer.
-selling off public assets and land.
-reducing or privatizing social security.
and yes this election is break it or save it.
as usual JMHO.

-Airplane

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
125. The deeper shit
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oct 2012

will be the inevitable and drastic decline in food crops, and the worsening of the global climate disaster. With the world economy threatening to collapse by 2015, anarchy seems the likely outcome for the foreseeable future.

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
126. I have already resolved we are probably done for as a species.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:17 PM
Oct 2012

I am 58 and I hope I live out the rest of my life somewhat well. I really am hoping that there will be some humanity as things fall apart and I will do what I can for my friends and neighbors. We are without question in my mind in an overshoot condition. I will most certainly see the beginning of the decline of the human species. Most scary is the fact that the north pole may be permanently gone in a couple of years and the subsequent additional warming will finally convince most we are in a true planetary emergency. But we are already past the point of no return I think. Ultimately no one can really predict the complete future. Enjoy life while you can and treat those around you with kindness, charity, and compassion.
-Airplane

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
143. I am 56,
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 03:55 AM
Oct 2012

and a Vegan. I now live in an area where I can buy a few acres and put in a bio-intensive garden. I hope to find some remote land, with a year-round spring.

I've done advocacy for survivors of relationship violence for over thirty years. I am now focusing my advocacy on our children.

Climate scientists have identified positive feedback loops in virtually all important indices of global climate change. We are too late to effect significant recovery. When Gaea rolls over to scrape us off Her backside, we'll just have to go along for the ride.

Saviolo

(3,280 posts)
118. George Orwell
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:36 PM
Oct 2012

It reminds me of 1984 in a big way.

Now, I know people throw "Orwellian" around a lot, and half of them have absolutely no idea what it means. And what they're usually missing is the bit of speech from O'Brien near the end of the novel. Big Brother and The Party don't want power as a means to an end, they want power as the end.

The GOP has completely trained their followers that power is the end, not the means. It's far more important that their guy is in the White House instead of the other guy, even if they -hate- their guy.

My in-laws live in Houston (I'm Canadian). I was in Houston just before W got elected for the second time. I had the opportunity to ask a bunch of people why they'd be voting for W. Most of them -hated- W, but their answer was always the same: It's better than the alternative. They didn't mean Kerry, of course, they just meant "the other guy." It could have been a cross between Jesus and Einstein, but if he had a D after his name, better to have our guy in there.

This is the defining quotation from 1984:

The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?


It has nothing to do with constant surveillance or freedom of speech or starting false wars. Those are all just symptoms. Those are just the ACTIONS that are taken in order to reach the GOAL, which is power.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
123. Most of us had to dissect that book in high school in Houston in the sixties.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:48 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:02 PM - Edit history (1)

1984 = 2004 was a bumper sticker where I live now. In the progressive era that I grew up in, 1984 was a warning. To the GOP and FOX, it's their handbook. In the 1990s, as the current crop of cable propagandists were hired, there was not one technique left unused from that book.

But the roots are deeper, all the way back the Business Coup that failed, which might not fail now, and the strategy applied by the Koch family. Left and right agitation with conspiracy theories woven in. I don't buy the CT world view, even though there are glimpses of truth. I listened to their support of the Libertarian Party and the John Birch Society and knew the source, that showed the journey it was taking us on.

This is the bulk of the patriot, the Ron Pauls and Tea Party. The Koch family have had a long-term plan. I remember the actions of the Birchers before JFK was killed and their intense hatred of liberals. RFK, Jr. also noted their influence.

Now they, through their friends like Mitt and Bain, own the media, have decimated the flow of ideas under the name of freedom, having frustrated the purpose of the New Deal's FCC, to stop from having only one view expressed, the narrowing of communications from falling into the hands a few demagogues. The danger is more apparent daily.

It is almost impossible for people to say other than what they hear daily in every media venue. Some embrace the message fully, others who do not, but know better than to speak against it, as Voltaire said, 'It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong.'

That sentence has been misquoted to change if from the word men to government, no doubt by Libertarians. Our form of RW Libertarianism was trounced by Monbiot:

How Freedom Became Tyranny

by George Monbiot

Rightwing libertarians have turned “freedom” into an excuse for greed and exploitation.

Freedom: who could object? Yet this word is now used to justify a thousand forms of exploitation. Throughout the rightwing press and blogosphere, among thinktanks and governments, the word excuses every assault on the lives of the poor, every form of inequality and intrusion to which the 1% subject us. How did libertarianism, once a noble impulse, become synonymous with injustice?

In the name of freedom – freedom from regulation – the banks were permitted to wreck the economy. In the name of freedom, taxes for the super-rich are cut. In the name of freedom, companies lobby to drop the minimum wage and raise working hours. In the same cause, US insurers lobby Congress to thwart effective public healthcare; the government rips up our planning laws(1); big business trashes the biosphere. This is the freedom of the powerful to exploit the weak, the rich to exploit the poor...


http://www.monbiot.com/2011/12/19/how-freedom-became-tyranny/

Democrats still support of the poor, do not exalt the rich 'producers,' so they are called 'statists' and 'sheeple' who haven't gloomed onto to the BIG BAD conspiracy and aren't willing to accept the need for the Supermen and Individualists that will be necessary in bad times.

We've had these SOBs running things on and off throughout history. I believe we going into an age of technocratic rule, a combination of Huxley's Brave New World (which was also part of the public school curriculum when I was growing up) and Orwell's 1984..

Various groups, the baggers, resist 'progressive' ideas in fear of this coming to pass by our wide acceptance of many things they think are more natural and to their mind, closer to the 'world as God intended it to be' or something to that effect. In the interest of disclosure, I am not a believer, I am a shameless treehugger. But it appears we are going there whether we like it or not and will have to shift for it. We can, however, or we hope, that we can make a more humane and sustainable future for coming generations.

Back to Orwell and the use of media and how it affects power. We have a media not controlled by the evil state, but by corporations. These same corporations advocate supporting oligarchs. There is a thread that pulls what the Koch family has done together here, well worth reading the transcript if one doesn't have time for the video:

Thom Hartmann: Conservative Millennials, Boomers & Libertarians all being Conned

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101744227

I do not accept the premise that in supporting Obama or the Democratic Party one is playing the game for power itself; as we have little power. We have not made a manifesto of selfishness and painted it with words that have been twisted to justify cruelty and hatred. We are in dangerous times and have a choice to make. Obama has tried to make the case for the kind of America many of us grew up in and the hope for equality reflected the idealism of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Howard Zinn, no matter how imperfectly.

It is not a game. Millions of dead show that to be true. And I'm just venting there, I do tend to whip these dead horses on occasion. Thanks for your thoughtful reply.



Saviolo

(3,280 posts)
128. Thoughtful reply
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:39 PM
Oct 2012

Thanks. I think that, even here, there's a lot of people who react without thought a lot of the time. But this is a serious, serious issue.

I agree with you that in supporting Obama or the Democratic Party that you are supporting someone seeking power for power's sake. Really, when you look at it, the liberals and progressives are the ones that use power as a means to an end, and that end is, generally speaking, more equality and more freedom.

With a government in power that strictly wants power, it's dangerous. But what we're starting to see now, with corporations in power, is even worse. There is no head to the system. There's nothing leading the machine, it's just a headless blunder. It is clumsy and destructive. Each corporation will be in it for their own interests, and they will do whatever they need individually to help their bottom line and boost their profits. They will do this with no regard to the fact that everyone else will be doing the same or the effect that it will have.

I don't even know where we can go from here. People have been told for so long that talk like this is just paranoid conspiracy theory and they'll compare it to Robert Anton Wilson's Illuminatus! trilogy. I'm not convinced we have nothing to learn from that crazy book, either.

Fundamentals have to change. The whole corporations-as-people thing has to change. The my-party-right-or-wrong idea has to change. The government-should-be-run-like-a-government idea has to change. We have to support those that will drag us forward, who will make intelligent, informed decisions.

Mitt Romney is the perfect poster child for what the GOP has become. It's not a political party, it's a corporation. They talk again and again about how the government should be run like a business. That has been -drilled- into us for years and years, now. But it's not even remotely true. The government needs to be run for the benefit of all of those at the bottom, not those at the top, as in shareholders or a board of directors for a corporation.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
149. I've had people come up to me and say just that.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:19 AM
Oct 2012

What is it with some middle class and poor white Southerners that they hate black people so much?

Do they honestly believe slavery was a good economic system? Do they think having black people suffer somehow makes them better? I just don't understand racism and guess I never will.

But yes Mittens has captured the heart of the racist voter, especially that comparison to his boys comment. All them white racists really just loved that comment from Mittens. I heard them laughing about it when I went to get my car repaired.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
64. Well, since you ask...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:39 AM
Oct 2012

There's the double standard; Obama has to do twice as much before the "progressives" regard him as half as good as say, Clinton, or Carter, or any other Democrat, ever.

When Obama fails at something, it's gdoom, it's disaster, it's all "that boy's" fault, according to the "progressives." when something goes right, well, that's because of anyone-but-Obama, of course! he's earned all the blame and none of the credit.

Basically, the "progressives" who are so keen on "holding his feet to the fire" do so to a degree and with venom unseen in any previous presidency.Almost to the point where these "progressives" more resemble the Democrats circa 1872 than the democrats of 2012.

(I'm using quotation marks simply because I do not believe these people are progressives, nor do I feel they represent people who actually ARe progressives. Spare me the sniveling)

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
67. I usually agree with you, but I'm not really sure what you mean here.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:08 AM
Oct 2012

I'm definitely in agreement that the word "progressive" is meaningless bullshit in contemporary political discourse - or, rather, it makes me think that someone who uses it is bullshitting.

However, do you not think that there are legitimate criticisms to be made toward Obama from the left? (of course there are criticism from the right, even within his party, but I don't know if I'd ever call them legitimate) I'm afraid that this sort of thing can just lead to a de-facto position of always just going for the lesser of two evils. I'd rather go for something I passionately agree with.

Obama's done some great things, and I think he'll do great things in a second term as well, but that doesn't mean I don't think he's also done terrible things and will likely continue to do things I think are terrible. Should I not voice my opinion because I like some of his actions and policy decisions while disliking others? He's in office to represent me, after all.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
73. I'm saying the treatment of Obama is racist
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:32 AM
Oct 2012

I can't say whether the people doing so are themselves racists, but the mere fact he has to do twice the work to get half the credit is a simple outgrowth of how black people in America are treated. So too the fact that he gets all the blame for failure, and only partial credit (if that) for success.

As for legitimate criticisms? I love that it's never specified what they are. It's some hazy cloud of "I'm justified in being a negative ass, because i'm justified" Okay, he's a centrist? So was Clinton. So was Carter. So was Johnson, so are most presidents in the nation's history, it comes with the job. Drone strikes? No different than what Clinton was doing in the firmer Yugoslav states and Sudan, except for where the pilot is sitting. There are few, if any legitimate criticisms that stem from President Obama, rather than from the office of the presidency itself. That is, there's plenty of policy to criticize, but it's fucking dumb to pretend it's all Obama's fault.

Now on hte other hand, the Affordable Care Act? End of DADT, and subsequent endorsement of equal rights to gay people? Ending the war in Iraq, setting a deadline for Afghanistan? The most equitable treatment of our native peoples since the founding of the republic (still not great, sure, but still, big improvement)? Pulling the US back from its status as a rogue state? Wrangling the recession into docility and saving the auto industry? No fucking credit at all. It's either flash-in-the-pan and vanishes in two days, or the credit is given to someone else.

if you think the first black man to hold office as president of the United States is getting fair and even treatment, even from his "supporters," I'm sorry, you're deluded.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
77. Hold on...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:55 AM
Oct 2012

Are you suggesting that criticism against Obama for illegal drone strikes is inherently racist while criticism against Clinton for his bullshit bombing of Yugoslavia is somehow magically different?

Yes, I do think that there are people who will use ANY criticism of Obama as a proxy for a racist attack, but I don't somehow think that every criticism is such a proxy.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
80. It's pretty obvious that's not what I'm saying at all.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:11 AM
Oct 2012

I'm saying that the stunningly different treatment the two men get, despite having nearly-identical policy stances (hell, despite Clinton being more to the right than Obama) is probably not based off "concerned citizens" who are "legitimately criticizing policy." If you've got a problem with the policy, then you should be as hardassed on Clinton. But... nobody ever is.

Again, if you think the first black man to hold the office is going to get a fair shake, even from his own "side," you're a little deluded.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
82. Well, Clinton's not in office or running for office now, so I don't entirely see your comparison.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:46 AM
Oct 2012

I disagree that Clinton was to the right of Obama. What bothers me so much about the discourse in general, is that it's forgotten that Clinton's big selling point (not to me - I was really too young to understand or care, but I went with my dad to see him speak) was that he was this sort of centrist - to the right of the Democratic establishment. That didn't matter to the Republicans though. To them, he was still the devil and was treated as such. They labeled him and anything he did as extreme leftist, even if it had previously been their position. What that did was shift the entire party to the right, where now what would have been to the right of the Democratic Party 20 years ago is somewhere left of its center.

My point? It doesn't matter how centrist a Democrat tries to govern. They will face insane opposition. If that's going to be the case anyway, if we're going to be criticised as "socialists," I'd at least like to get some fucking socialism for it, and I don't mind saying it. I sure don't want to just sit back and not state my opinion because shit could be worse.

So, was Clinton to the right of Obama? I don't know. I'd generally say he wasn't, but how far out to we have to get in time before such comparisons become irrelevant?

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
106. I was a Kucinich Supporter, but by the time PA voted, I voted for Obama
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:44 PM
Oct 2012

Actually I think Clinton dropped out by then also.

As far as Bill Clinton goes, Nafta, Glass-steagal & welfare reform are serious issues & I will never support any Clinton again, unless it is Clinton vs any GOPer.

Obama and all DEMs are getting my vote, I was in green party, socialist workers & CPUSA but got tired of having no one to vote for in the primaries.

I have plenty of issues with Obama, but am trying to not complain about anything till RMoney is vanquished to the 5th dimension.


Gawd, i forgot the main point of my post, I am very sure that Obama was doing his best to NOT be an angry "N&^^#R" the Rove_CO would have had a field day if he got as "upitty" as Biden did.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
154. $25 if you can find that quote from a regular DUer
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:06 AM
Oct 2012

Or any similarly racist remark.

Otherwise an apology is the right thing to do.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
160. I'm talking about attitudes expressed, Manny
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 04:46 PM
Oct 2012

The idea that the president has to work twice as hard to get half the credit. The idea that whenever anything doesn't go as desired, he's the one who is totally to blame, no one else. "That boy" is not a direct quote, it is a distillation of the attitude I see coming from "progressives" on DU.

I don't apologize to racist fucks. So, all those poor sad-eyed "concerned progressives" will just have to sit it out.

As for you... You seem to have this weird Pavlovian response where the three syllables "o ba ma" make you turn into a dithering doofus. You should look into that. Once you've calmed down a bit, might I suggest you learn about how literacy is not simply about being able to repeat words, it's about understanding what a bunch of them strung together mean, their context, the author's intent... In other words, the ability to "read between the lines" is a big part of understanding writing.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
162. So let me know if I have this right:
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:15 PM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:06 PM - Edit history (1)

1. You have the *impression* that President Obama has to work twice as hard as other presidents to get half the credit from "progressives".
2. You are certain that this is because of "progressives" who are actually "racist fucks".

Lovely, if that what this comes down to.

Any possibility that the upset comes from a continuing increase in homelessness and hunger while the bankers get unlimited bailouts, the embrace of job-obliterating "free" trade bills, Simpson Bowles, and the rest? Any chance at all?

As understanding writing... I'm a fairly successful professional writer, so I suspect that I've an inkling as to how this language stuff works.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. That's worst than a redneck.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:50 PM
Oct 2012

He's a White Supremacist. His skinhead shave gives him away, not to mention the sentiments on his T-Shirt. Boy if Romney is attracting that crowd, who are generally anti-government no matter whose in charge, then he's really a bad choice for President.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
69. Not this shit again.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:13 AM
Oct 2012

Well before that, skinheads (where and when the term started, and the majority of what it still is today) were a multi-racial subculture.

I'm sure you watched Geraldo in the 80's or something, but do some homework before you go making such broad generalizations.

It's sort of like using the Manson Family to say, "back in the day, the hippies - people with long hair, regardless of gender - just love to do a lot of murderin'."

phasma ex machina

(2,328 posts)
86. Nope. Didn't need to watch Geraldo to know about skinheads. And no, long hair's
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:41 AM
Oct 2012

never been the symbol of a movement.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
87. Yet you think skinheads are all neo-nazis?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:03 AM
Oct 2012

Skinheads are no more all racists than hippies are are all actress murderers.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
92. Still the racists have adopted it
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:18 PM
Oct 2012

That combined with the sentiment on the shirt, proves he is not part of the original grouping consisting of a multiracial subculture.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
113. But it gives no indication that the guy is a skinhead.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:56 PM
Oct 2012

Lots of people have shaved heads. I've got a cousin who's a pretty straight-laced commercial airline pilot. He has a shaved head. He's not a skinhead.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
121. I agree in fact it's the new way to handle baldness
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:29 PM
Oct 2012

A lot more attractive than the fringe or the combover IMHO. In fact all black men seem now to have it or a shaved to the head look (see Obama, Barack).

And there is no way this guy is part of the skinheads of the punk era.

But also the Aryan nations types seemed to go with this look at one time. In 2012, we don't now the guy's motive, but it's either he's bald and just shaving it off or he's a racist. Or both.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
98. I used to live in Idaho. I witnessed their parades through town.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:30 PM
Oct 2012

Not all shaved heads are White Supremacists, but all shaved heads displaying those sentiments or similar ones on shirts and tattoos are. Do not judge me until you can prove me wrong.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
70. Umm...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:18 AM
Oct 2012

The term "redneck" describes people who work outside in the sun. To use it as a pejorative is insulting to the working class. Are you also ok with "wet back" to describe a group of people? Same thing.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
74. Having grown up in Jesusland, I prefer the perjoratives "shitkicker" or "Yahoo" to
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:34 AM
Oct 2012

"redneck"

That said, I do not believe 'redneck' is insulting to the 'working class' in general, so much as it is insulting to Southern white working class males specifically.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
79. Well, here in the north the term exists too.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:05 AM
Oct 2012

It's sometimes self-identifying, but sometimes meant as an insult. There are times it can make me uncomfortable, and there are times when people use the word and it's just part of the vocabulary, but then it's usually not meant in an insulting way, but a descriptive way.

In my mind, something insulting to one element of the working class is insulting to the entire working class. These sort of terms exist to keep the working class divided. As far as I can tell, it's also the primary reason for the perpetuation of racism. These are the divisions that have to fall for real progress to be made.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
9. How is it that this guy is so comfortable there?
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:08 PM
Oct 2012

How is it that no one is throwing this guy out or getting away from him? Simply for the sake of hiding their own racism you'd think they would disavow this asshole.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. I do NOT want to have my country run by people like this!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

The fact that he/she was not put out, and that's a commercially print job on that shirt, shows there are many, many more of them. They are not fit to be dogcatcher, much less in government.


NJRick1006

(62 posts)
33. This garbage is all over
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:51 PM
Oct 2012

Even in my "blue" state of New Jersey, this type of vile nonsense is all over (albeit not quite to this extreme). Supposed "friends" of ours have fake tombstones in their front yard with the names "Clinton", "Obama", "Biden" on them. A store in a nearby town has a picture of President Obama as a witch doctor. The owner of the store says that business has picked up dramatically since he hung the picture in his display window.

I want this crowd not only beaten, but destroyed. I blame most of this on the right-wing media which enables this shit. Some of the media think this is cute or "free speech". I'm sorry, but in a supposedly civilized country this cannot be tolerated.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
46. I also a LOT of people believe the Birther and Muslim crap
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:02 AM
Oct 2012

This is the reason the polls have swung Romneys way.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
66. Your "blue state" of New Jersey has more hate groups than my 'red state' of Tennessee..
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:51 AM
Oct 2012

It also has more than NC, SC, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas and even Texas! Taking into consideration that your whole state is the size of just one major city in most of these states says a lot, too... but it's nothing to read a lot of South bashing here on DU... read a lot about the 'racist South', but never about the racist North...

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map

Peace,

Ghost

malaise

(268,938 posts)
90. For me the biggest problem here is the
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:10 PM
Oct 2012

Rmoney/Lyan logo - sanctioned by them. Effing racist ReTHUGs

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2theleft

(1,136 posts)
18. Animosity towards white pride??
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:35 PM
Oct 2012

Hmmm... I have no problems at people being proud of who they are, or where they come from. The issue isn't "pride", it's racism. Being "proud" of your ethnicity at the expense of someone elses. Is my boyfriend proud that his lineage includes Robert the Bruce? Absolutely. Does that make him superior to anyone else? Absolutely not.

Response to 2theleft (Reply #18)

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
49. You're either stupid or trolling.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:05 AM
Oct 2012

I'm pretty sure that you know it's racist, so that means you're trolling.

Say hello to your freeper pals under the bridge.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
81. 'Lots of people vote for politicians who have characteristics in common with themselves.'
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:37 AM
Oct 2012

Yes, the troll has been sent back to the bridge. He needs to understand color does not determine character. As a white person, I have more in common with a black Obama than I do a white Romney or Ryan. The view he was espousing was childish and un-American.

He is in denial. The fact is, it is rich white men have done the southern white men he claims to speak for more harm than a black man ever could. They are just the diversion for fools who are afraid to fight the rich white man.

That is why GOP are bullies and cowards, as those are two sides of the same miserable coin. They are attacking those who are more like them in economic terms than the boss man. They lick the boots of the boss and kick anyone they can get away with to prove to themselves they are men.

But it takes courage and strength to stand up to the boss man, and sticking together with the less well-off to build something strong as our parents did in years gone by with the unions and the civil rights movement. MLK was not speaking just for the blacks, but all of us.

I'd pity the fools who fall for this charade year in and year out and become racist tools, but the hour is getting late the world has no time for their selfish immaturity. Grow up or get out of the way.


BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
21. What? This pic is blatantly racist.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:39 PM
Oct 2012

Why does anyone need to express white pride? I've been white my whole life, and it never occurred to me to think this way. I may be proud of being Irish, but whiteness only exists in opposition to people of color. So-called white pride is white supremacy. How is it anything but racist? It is about resentment toward people of color, as the teeshirt clearly conveys.

Response to BainsBane (Reply #21)

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
30. He is upset a black man is in the white house
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:49 PM
Oct 2012

And thinks it should be exclusively white. That is all his shirt conveys.

Response to BainsBane (Reply #30)

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
38. They take pride in a shared African ancestry
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:55 PM
Oct 2012

Just as the Irish do on St Patrick's day or Scandinavians do in the many cultural/Ethic groups in the Midwest. But it is not about anything as simple minded as skin color. There is as much difference in skin color among African Americans as between those we identify as whites and blacks.

I see no reason for the Democrats to conform themselves to racists. They left the party in the 1960s.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
93. That racist with the hidden posts
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:24 PM
Oct 2012

It subtly getting at the idea that black people voted for Obama because he's black. There is some sentiment about having someone that looks like me in the WH. But it's not valid, as the black vote will go Democratic generally, so just having a black guy win as President is icing on the cake.

And it is understandable for black people to enjoy this icing on the cake. I'm white, and I even like it (and would vote for the Democrat regardless of skin color). I am glad to see this barrier broken, but at the same time, think Obama is a great President and would think so had he been white and done the same things.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
61. Keep an eye out folks!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:29 AM
Oct 2012

It's Friday night and.. it reminds me of a song...

"They'll be comin' round the mountain when they come.."

Crash that train!

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
29. White pride? lol
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:47 PM
Oct 2012

It is pathetic to take pride in the amount of melanin you were born with. There is not one single thing about being white that is worthy of pride. Take pride in your accomplishments. Being white is not an accomplishment.

Response to OriginalGeek (Reply #29)

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
40. You can't possibly Be a Democrat
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:57 PM
Oct 2012

Or you would know that African Americans have been the most reliable Dem. Voting block since the 60s, and voted for Clinton, Gore, and Kerry in percentages very close to that for Obama.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
85. I tell you
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:34 AM
Oct 2012

trolls are much more fun when they are just stupid assholes - the open displays of racism are just sickening

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
35. Well, looks like Obama has at least ONE racist supporter
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:53 PM
Oct 2012

If you're going to sit here and defend "white pride", then expect to get called out for it.

Fucking racist. Enjoy your stay here while it lasts, seems like didn't take very long for you to show your true colors.

spanone

(135,824 posts)
42. he shames his country....fuckwad
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:58 PM
Oct 2012

i piss in his general direction

there's some rancid shit in thread....

Permanut

(5,602 posts)
60. Thanks for the post, arely, this is critical..
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:27 AM
Oct 2012

as evidenced by the trolls appearing in support of a bottom feeding piece of scum like this.

CheapShotArtist

(333 posts)
68. That photo is clearly fake...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:08 AM
Oct 2012

Everybody knows that conservatives only hate the president because of his policies! They absolutely love Black folks!

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
72. These people make me ashamed to be white.Who the hell ever told them they were any better than anyon
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:30 AM
Oct 2012

e else? Only illiterate, ignorant, racist fucks could spread and/or believe that nonsense. Certainly no true Christian would preach that bullshit. It's too bad there are still so make dickheads around making the world miserable. Why don't they go live on their own pirvate island. I don't think anyone would miss them for an instant.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
84. They are losers
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:22 AM
Oct 2012

Who blame people of color for the fact their lives suck. Every time they see a successful black person, they think he got there by virtue of skin color alone. That's how they try to make themselves feel better for doing nothing with their own lives. I understand the deck is stacked against a lot of people in this country, but these people choose to be idiots. And they vote for politicians them keep them down. I have no sympathy for them.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
94. ...and the willingness, secure feeling that it's ok to show in public
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:27 PM
Oct 2012

there is support out there for these memes. It's NOT isolated

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
95. But Ann Coulter said there aren't any racists in America...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:28 PM
Oct 2012

only those who are the fabric of overheated liberal imaginations.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
166. Wow. I didn't connect that, although I know it was professionally made.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 10:12 PM
Oct 2012

Would love to get that exposed.

 

Gradivus

(1 post)
99. Dirty tricks
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:19 PM
Oct 2012

Obviously, it's not an official Romney/Ryan T-shirt. Yes, there are racists in the world, the First Amendment allows them to spew racist messages, and you can find them in every party. There are racist Obama supporters too:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/stacey-dash-defends-twitter-article-1.1177976

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
112. Why did you assume that those tweets came from
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:39 PM
Oct 2012

"racist Obama supporters"? Perhaps they were just racists period and are not supporters of Obama.

They also could be in the dirty tricks category. iows - Romney supporters playing nasty games. Actually, now that I think about it that is way more likely where those tweets came from.

NICO9000

(970 posts)
100. Not all Republicans are racists...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:23 PM
Oct 2012

...but all racists are Republicans!

According to Buzzfeed, a Romney spokesperson "commented that the shirt was reprehensible and has no place in this election."

Yet I'm sure nobody from the campaign had the guts to throw the guy out on his ass. Tacit endorsement indeed.

skeewee08

(1,983 posts)
101. This really disgust me.....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:23 PM
Oct 2012

As an African American I believe All races should be proud of who they are; however when you incorporate racism in your message that is wrong. I bet the African American slaves who built the WH don't care what color the President is.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
109. "All races should be proud of who they are"
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:24 PM
Oct 2012

Maybe, but in my opinion, there is a really big difference between "white pride" and "Irish pride," etc.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
102. And no one in this crowd is looking at this guy in disgust.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:26 PM
Oct 2012

He's welcome there, because RACISM is welcome amongst most Republicans. I say "most" and I mean it. I've met enough Republicans to do the math. Bigots, the lot of them.

blackdiamond62

(24 posts)
122. Well actually ...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:43 PM
Oct 2012

Well actually when I saw the shirt I thought he was referring to either Betty White or Vanna White.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
134. He sure looks like he would think of those 2 ladies at the White House.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:21 PM
Oct 2012

Having tea and talking about what letters to turn.

desertduck

(213 posts)
115. absolutely disgusting and vile.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:19 PM
Oct 2012

i KNOW people like this are out there...but i am still gobsmacked everytime i see such filth.

LoisB

(7,202 posts)
116. From the back, this guy looks as if he is old enough that he collects social security.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:29 PM
Oct 2012

I hope he's stocking up on canned goods because if RawMoney gets elected, he won't have enough left from his check to buy food after the Wall Street boys take their 30% off the top.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
119. How are you going to get the black out?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:45 PM
Oct 2012

The Whitehouse was built on the back of Black Slavery labor..

ignorant racist..

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
120. I Hope This Ignorant Asshole Manages To Find Out.....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:18 PM
Oct 2012

...what a huge favor he has inadvertently done for the Obama/Biden campaign. This photo has been all over the country and around the world who knows how many times by now. Hey, if nobody else will say it, I will: Thanks a lot, fuckhead.......

ushadrons

(8 posts)
136. Misinformation, Fear, And Hate In America
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:53 PM
Oct 2012

The rise of this overt racism should be a call to the polls for all decent Americans.

Mitt Romney and the corporatist theocratic GOP must be defeated.

"I don't agree with all the people who support me, and my guess is they don't all agree with everything I believe in, but I need to get 50.1 percent or more, and I'm appreciative to have the help of a lot of good people." - Mitt Romney

Misinformation, Fear, And Hate In America

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
137. wow. just f'ing wow. however
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:24 AM
Oct 2012

where i live this video would be seen as a validation people's beliefs. Even the headline would be interpreted as applying to obama and not the like-mided folks in the video.

jesus wept

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
148. As disgusting as this guy and his shirt are . . .
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 04:13 AM
Oct 2012

. . . I will at least give him a little credit for the relative courage of his honesty. I believe there are a whole lot of Romney supporters out there for whom the sentiment is equally held, but who are socially savvy enough to know not to admit to it.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
155. Maybe Obama should think twice about Simpson-Bowles,
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:14 AM
Oct 2012

"Free" trade, the Unitary Executive, infinite bailouts for bankers, and the rest. Those are the problems. Mentioning them in public is not the problem.

VPStoltz

(1,295 posts)
156. And once again, this is what is ALL boils down to...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:10 AM
Oct 2012

My eldest bother is a Repug/Vet.
I had tried and tried to open his eyes: brought the troops home, got binLaden, Michelle's cause is Vet families, Dems support Vets overwhelmingly better than Repugs, more funding, more awareness, meets the fallen when they return home, SON OF THE VP IS IN ACTIVE SERVICE (to emphasize that Mitton's boys did not even try to serve), and on and on.
He says he and his fellow Vets, "Dislike and don't trust" the Presidents as opposed to "hate" him.
When I suggested something else was at play he hit the ceiling.
That answered my question.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
157. I can agree on one thing with this racist git.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:16 AM
Oct 2012

It is likely that there needs to be some redecorating done-a coat of white paint on the ceiling may do it. There, putting the white (paint) back in the Whitehouse. Apart from that... Doesn't matter about the creed or colour of the person who is elected to reside there, just needs to be someone of good moral fibre and integrity. Since there is a realistic choice between Obama and Romney, I take the guy with the integrity. Not Romney, since he is severely lacking in that department.

LW1977

(1,234 posts)
161. F**king Bigots
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 09:56 PM
Oct 2012

This redneck douchebag should be taken to Harlem and left for dead, what disgusting piece of human trash!

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
163. And In The End... That's What This All Comes Down Too...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:19 PM
Oct 2012

The old Republican Party has been replaced by the bigots.

Ironically... the Party of Lincoln...

But as I've always said...

"In these times... not every Republican is a KKK or Nazi member, yet every American Nazi and KKK member, votes Republican."


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