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onecaliberal

(32,826 posts)
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:02 PM Apr 2021

This line of questioning by the defense makes zero sense.

Are they trying to argue that chauvin had to leave his knee of Mr. Floyd's neck because the "crowd" was upset and they might escalate the situation?

If the police were really worried about the "crowd" they would have demonstrated that by placing the 3 officers sitting on Mr. Floyd at the front of the "crowd" instead.

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marble falls

(57,077 posts)
1. He's got to give his client a reason for continuing the kneeling. Cops have beaten murder raps ...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:10 PM
Apr 2021

... by showing they had no choice, even if they were shown to be wrong - as long as they continue to say "I was in fear for my life". Stretching to "the crowd was threatening me and because of their threats caused me to lose my attention to how Mr Floyd was doing under my control." is an equivalent.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
2. The bar to convict someone of murder is very high.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:11 PM
Apr 2021

It is not just that you believe that person likely committed the murder. It has to be that you believe that person committed the murder without reasonable doubt. That means you believe 100% that the person committed the murder.

The counsel is simply throwing as many possible reasoning to create some small doubt that it is a justified use-of-force, even though none of the facts from the video support the over-the-top general hypotheticals.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
3. If those cops were concerned about the crowd...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:21 PM
Apr 2021

...they should have called for backup.

Nothing else makes sense except that Chauvin wanted to kill Mr. Lloyd.

onecaliberal

(32,826 posts)
4. I keep thinking that too. They never checked on him. I mean what else could it be.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:31 PM
Apr 2021

for at least 7 minutes he laid there motionless. It's still unfuckingbelievable.

WarGamer

(12,436 posts)
6. It's the firehose approach
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:34 PM
Apr 2021

Blast FUD at the Jury.

Give the 2 or 3 Trumpists (maybe 6?) on the Jury an excuse...

They will provide a counter-argument for every doubting Juror who will listen

12. Also called the "throw shit on the wall and see what sticks" defense.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:47 PM
Apr 2021

Everyone was responsible for George Floyd's death other than the man who killed him.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
8. Now they're trying to say it was on his shoulder?
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:38 PM
Apr 2021

As though he didn’t have it on his neck? As though he didn’t kneel on that man’s neck and cut off his oxygen? As though this whole thing didn’t happen?

What the actual fuck?

onecaliberal

(32,826 posts)
11. They'll clear it up. They're talking about how he shouldn't have used that level of force without
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 04:45 PM
Apr 2021

calling a supervisor. Chauvin NEVER followed policy. He did not use the proper level of force at any point. When it starts off pulling a gun on a guy over a 20 dollar bill. This should never have happened. If this fucker gets off, I will have to go to the street. We can not allow the police to codify the killing of black men for no reason any longer.

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