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(30,613 posts)diverdownjt
(701 posts)thx..asshole
George McGovern
(5,420 posts)What a very good thing to do.
Auggie
(31,133 posts)reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)hlthe2b
(102,131 posts)SheilaAnn
(9,686 posts)Scrivener7
(50,916 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
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Hekate
(90,560 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,589 posts)I am never surprised when, what I call the naysayers, show up. Give a lovely post a few replies and within ten or so, they'll be there, holding down the contrarian fort.
Some see the wildflowers on the side of the road and some see the trash.
Stay encouraged, Hekate.
❤
George II
(67,782 posts)Hekate
(90,560 posts)BunnyMcGee
(463 posts)Spice of life!
BannonsLiver
(16,312 posts)10/10
Cafe Cat
(18,748 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Perfect in so many ways.
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,730 posts)and diabetic-friendly. Pop just dehydrates you.
ShazzieB
(16,278 posts)I hear that all the time and it never made any sense to me. This is quite helpful.
colorado_ufo
(5,730 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,790 posts)charged by the soft drink manufacturer is determined by the number of soft drink cups that are used.
It therefore costs nothing to give a person water in a plain cup, vs water in a soft drink cup or a soft drink in a soft drink cup....
If you have ever watched someone requesting water at a fast food place, or event, the counter people always give out a plain cup.....
(or more likely make them buy a bottle of water, and then give them a plain cup)
As long as you use your previous cup, a lot of fast food places give you a refill for free, because the refill doesn't cost them a cent..
I laugh when someone tells me the vendor fills the cup up completely with ice so they can use less drink, and hike their profits.
Same with Beer at sports events, etc.......
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)but that doesn't make sense to me. The place I worked bought bags of syrup, which were hooked up to the fountain and mixed with carbonated water. They also bought cups, but that was a separate expense. Nobody counted cups to figure out what to pay for drinks.
DENVERPOPS
(8,790 posts)That is how it worked way way back.
Another interesting thing is about beer at a massive sports or entertainment event......before the rush between periods or half time, the counter people have a shelf under the counter. In many venues they start filling a ton of cups up to twenty minutes before the rush. If you are the first ones in line, you might get a flat, warm beer. The Beer Kegs are placed in a huge refrigerated room a long way from the counter. They run plastic lines up to the counter over a large distance. I used to look at the clear plastic tubing that carries the beer, and all but one brand's lines were gross, crud on the inside walls, mold, etc. It was really gross.......
The one and only brand that cleaned their lines every single week was COORs.........imagine that.......
Concessions charge ludicrous amounts for food and drinks. The concessions are a humongous profit center, with un-fathomable profits for each event..............
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)distributors provide unlimited syrup and then charge for cups? That doesn't make sense.
The profit is huge because soft drinks are mostly tap water and the syrup is pennies per drink
DENVERPOPS
(8,790 posts)All I can attest to is mass sporting and entertainment events, and most likely? the larger fast food places.
I remember from my younger years, the syrup coming in "bags" or most often glass gallon jugs for the drug store soda fountains. Now all the containers I have seen for the syrup used in fast food and large events are large stainless steel containers.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)They showed up to clean their lines like clockwork every week when I was in the industry.
And yes sporting events used a cup counting system. And pre poured beers.
Mosby
(16,260 posts)To account for the amount of beer and soda sold.
Beer is sold in kegs, and soda bags of syrup. The co2 isn't free, retailers buy bottles from the same people who sell other gasses like nitrogen.
Eta usually the equipment is provided by a vendor, coke or Pepsi, who get more sku's because it's their mixing machine.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Good on this location for this effort.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)I seldom drink soda because my doctor told me the carbonation can leach calcium out of your bones and other nasty things.
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)It's mostly a cola issue because colas contain varying amounts of phosphoric acid, which adds tartness.
The phosphate anion can interfere with calcium absorption.
The carbonation is just CO2 gas, and that's weaker anion than hydroxyapatite and identical to the carbonate, which are the 2 principal inorganic substituents of bone.
For instance, seltzer or tonic water or most lemon-lime sodas wouldn't be an issue as they have no significant phosphorus content.
There's no chemistry that supports the carbonation as an issue, but the phosphoric interference is real. That said, it's not an issue with moderate consumption. But, people (like my sister in the past) going through 8-12 cans of pop a day is excessive. Ruined her teeth, too!
I don't drink pop because I'm not a sweet beverage guy, and to me, they're all too sweet.
But, if you like an occasional root beer or ginger ale, or Sprite, go ahead and enjoy. It won't hurt you. But, if your concerned about bone density loss avoid colas.
peggysue2
(10,823 posts)than a sugar-on-steroids soda. Whatever is offered is an act of generosity and compassion. The homeless and disenfranchised community is too often rendered invisible.
Cheers to this establishment for doing a good deed!
Stinky The Clown
(67,762 posts)Good lord
Iris
(15,649 posts)Without having to explain yourself?
Raine
(30,540 posts)Karma13612
(4,541 posts)And they often have caffeine and/or make you more thirsty.
Plain water does the body good.
Luciferous
(6,078 posts)RVN VET71
(2,689 posts)but he didnt give me 20/20 vision. Even glasses would have been nice.
Sheesh!
nykym
(3,063 posts)... For more than a decade, Ilitch had quietly paid for Rosa Parks' apartment in downtown Detroit, according to CNN affiliate WXYZ. That story came to light thanks to Damon Keith, a Detroit native and federal judge.Feb 15, 2017
FalloutShelter
(11,833 posts)That is great to know. I will def start patronizing them more.
cyndensco
(1,697 posts)continues to have a compassionate side.
Too bad more companies did not share the sentiment.
Kid Berwyn
(14,800 posts)I know for certain Denise is a Democrat.
slumcamper
(1,604 posts)JudyM
(29,195 posts)Best thing Ive seen today, thanks for that info. Genuine corporate social responsibility can change the world. One company at a time.
lindysalsagal
(20,584 posts)At central soup kitchens. Everywhere. But america has no compassion.
Hekate
(90,560 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)He said the same thing as he watched them tossing food in bags for disposal off-site. He was told that the company had tried that, but got sued for allegedly poisoning someone who ate the leftovers. They settled out of court, which was probably the whole point of the suit.
DENVERPOPS
(8,790 posts)used to throw the left overs in the Dumpster and the homeless would go crazy, fighting for the food.
McDucks feared being sued, especially with mayonnaise being used, so they dumped the stuff in the dumpster and then sprayed it with clorox making it un-edible.......
Iggo
(47,534 posts)Hmm.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)McD's did it for a fairly logical reason. The woman in my anecdote was just plain mean. How dangerous is an hour-old doughnut? She could at least let her employees have a leftover pastry, IMO.
usaf-vet
(6,163 posts)I was a military medic. I was taking and break after lunch to get a little sun and fresh air. I watch one of the cooks carrying a LARGE "cookie sheet" pan filled with leftover drummies and chicken wings that were in the chow line at lunch.
He was head to the dumpster to toss them.
Right behind the hospital was an 8 ft chainlink fence. On the other side was a daycare center. Some of the kids were probably kids of military families and neighborhood civilians kids. I yelled at the cook if you are just going to toss them let's give them to the kids that were out playing.
He handed me the tray and said here you do it. So I walked the tray over and slid it under the fence. The kids and the adults with them cleaned the tray in minutes. I took the empty tray back to the kitchen.
The next day I got called to the First Sergeants offices and told never to do that again. That food was government property and it was against regs to dispose of government property without going through proper channels.
This was in the mid-1960s. So we have been doing these things for years.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)The Sweet Story of the Berlin Candy Bomber
Gail Halvorsens efforts made children happy but they also provided the U.S. military with an opportunity
By Kat Eschner
SMITHSONIANMAG.COM
OCTOBER 10, 2017
It all started at Berlins Tempelhof Air Field when the pilot met some children, writes historian Kaete M. OConnell. It was normal for children to ask Any gum, chum? or Any bon-bon? she writes, but these children didnt ask for anything. Taken aback, he offered two sticks of Wrigleys before departing, she writes. Witnessing the excitement this small offering generated as it was passed around and broken into numerous small pieces, the pilot rashly promised to drop candy on his next flight.
When asked how they would know which of the huge airplanes was his, he said he would wiggle his wings as he approached their position, writes the Air Force.
Halvorsen lived up to his promise, getting other pilots to donate their candy rations and having his flight engineer rock the airplane during the drop. Things grew from there, as more and more children showed up to catch his airdrops and letters began to arrive requesting special airdrops at other points in the city, writes the Air Force. The wiggle was also how Halvorsen got his other nickname: 'Uncle Wiggly Wings.'
After newspapers got wind of what was happening, Halvorsens superiors realized what he was doing and the PR opportunity it offered. Chocolate and candy donations began to pour in from the United States. Though Halvorsen himself was recalled by the military for a promotional tour, he had begun an international effort to get candy to the children of West Berlin.
Halvorsen provided a face for the airlift and the U.S.s humanitarian mission at large, while successfully enlisting the American public in an early Cold War contest for hearts and minds, writes OConnell. Americans previously weary of continued food aid for Europe eagerly embraced the opportunity to gift candy and chocolate to German children.
usaf-vet
(6,163 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Goes into great detail - good read if you have time. That's where I found this story a few years ago.
Here's the title - not going to link it for obvious reasons, but a search should bring it up... I got it from my library online for EReader, but Amazon and other book sites have it too.
The Candy Bombers: The Untold Story of the Berlin Airlift and America's Finest Hour
by Andrei Cherny (Author)
JT45242
(2,248 posts)Table to table is the example in our community
https://table2table.org/#our-mission
Panera has a corporate policy of giving away the extra food at the end of the day. I was one of the tecahers at our high school who would go on Thursday at close to a local Panera to pick up the stuff that they would otherwise throw away. We were able to give bags of bread, bagels, etc to students for food over the weekend (we were able to target a lot of the Free/Reduced lunch crowd this way) so that we knew that they had some food over the weekend.
Google food rescue in your community to find organizations that you can volunteer or donate to
stopdiggin
(11,248 posts)of excuses for why organizations "can't" ... To which we should all loudly claim, "BS!!" Can be done .. just requires people willing to deviate from the "easier" path.
yellowdogintexas
(22,231 posts)and other groups/locations needing the food. It is considered a health hazard. Now I am wondering about Panera and other businesses that do give away the leftovers.
This is in Tarrant county Texas; I couldn't tell you if it is statewide.
Someone who wants to sell food prepared in their own home must have a catering license & certified professional kitchen (which involves more expensive equipment than I have or can afford.)
Should I wish to set up a baking business I would be better off finding a church or meeting hall with a professional kitchen and working out an arrangement with them.
I can still bake for private entities, just not professionally.
Sympthsical
(9,041 posts)I work for a food distribution company. We often have a lot of left over things that don't get shipped out for various reasons. One thing we cannot give out is any kind of meat. Even though it's frozen and perfectly good, there is absolutely no tolerance for putting it anywhere but the garbage.
Fruits, vegetables, sauces, dry ingredients, etc, are ok. It's not unusual to see, say, a pile of bananas by the door for employees to take on their way out. I know some will take a bunch and donate them to local shelters and things (there's a homeless shelter just down the street).
But if you're caught taking meat out of the warehouse, you're all done. It goes in special dumpsters inaccessible from the outside. It's not about the money- the money's wasted anyway. It's about the liability.
FSogol
(45,448 posts)Food Recovery Network is the largest student-led movement fighting food waste and working to end hunger in America.
In 2011, Ben, Mia, Cam, and Evan, students at the University of Maryland, College Park noticed good dining hall food was ending up in the trash at the end of the night. By the end of the school year, FRN at UMD had recovered 30,000 meals to DC-area hunger-fighting nonprofits.
During the Spring semester of 2012, the second FRN chapter was founded at Brown University. UMD and Brown soon joined forces with two other campus food recovery programs at University of California, Berkeley and Pomona College.
In May 2013, the Sodexo Foundation provided FRN with founding funding to hire a full-time staff and transition into a professional nonprofit! Since then, we've swept the nation and made higher education the first sector where food recovery is the norm and not the exception.
They collect and redistribute it using safe food handling practices.
Go Terps!
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I live in the DC area and was not aware of this group. Ill have to do some recon on them.
(Oh - and Go NATS!!!)
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)unsold food to homeless shelters. The government does not need to be involved. You're ignorant to say "america has no compassion". Try volunteering at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. You'd see vast amounts of compassion.
druidity33
(6,445 posts)I work in a grocery store as a cook. Everything that can be redistributed is. Hot foods are an exception, because of food safety regulations, but otherwise we contribute to the larders of 3 separate food pantries in town.
Casandia
(639 posts)I drive by it when I go to IKEA.
Good for this restaurant!!
Submariner
(12,498 posts)with tomato sauce that doesn't leave me with heartburn.
mezame
(295 posts)haven't had one of theirs in a darn long time ('cause there's many good individual pie makers out there), so thanks for the reminder. I'll make it a point to seek one out locally.
Also, beer.
littlemissmartypants
(22,589 posts)aggiesal
(8,907 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)
When I was in high school, I used to work at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Each tray of chicken would hold 36 pieces of chicken, and our goal was to have less that a tray of chicken for each original & crispy at the end of the day.
Then we employees would split up the leftovers and take home.
One night we overestimated on the original and we had 4 trays left over (about 144 pieces).
We told our manager, that when this rare occurrence happens, we usually pack up the chicken and give it to the Catholic Carmelite Orphanage that was less than a mile away.
Our manager demanded that we throw away the chicken and that we will not be giving any chicken to anyone.
My co-worker/friend Jerry and I, were pi$$ed.
So on one of our dumpster runs, we took a chicken crate and lined it with aluminum foil and placed it next to the dumpster. We also took several chicken bucket containers and put them in our car.
Then when we took the trays of chicken to the dumpster we dumped it in the lined crate.
When we finished cleaning the store we put the crate in my car and drove to the park, where we took the chicken out of the crate and filled the chicken buckets with the chicken. Threw the crate away, drove to the orphanage and rang the door bell. When the nun answered we gave them the chicken buckets.
That was over 40 years ago, and I'll never forget the heartlessness of our manager, and what Jerry and I were able to do without our manager noticing.
To top this off, I remember Jerry's name for the good that we accomplished.
And for the life of me, I can't remember the managers name. Maybe for the better.
jcgoldie
(11,613 posts)Many corporations now would classify this as stealing. Its not about food for people but my wife works at the tractor supply company. They throw out old dog food and other types of feed in the dumpsters when they are past expiration. She asked if she could just take some from the dumpster home for her laying chickens that produce her farmer's market eggs. Nope if you get caught taking anything from the dumpster its no different than stealing it off the shelf she was told...
aggiesal
(8,907 posts)If it's in the dumpster, it's a write-off.
How is that off the shelf?
It wasn't the employees fault that the product didn't sell by the expiration date.
Unless they placed the company order, and intentionally over ordered to create the situation, which usually doesn't happen.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)She seems to be on a mission to destroy the brand, especially with her employees. She extends the time "corporate" mandates for keeping doughnuts on display and then disposing of the. The standing order is to spray everything that goes into the dumpster with bleach.
The employees are NOT allowed to eat any of them, and don't even get a discount on anything but 15% off coffee. To get their slightly-discounted coffee for their break, they have to stand in line with the customers, order the coffee, then wait for a supervisor to OK the discount. If they're lucky, they have time to drink half of it.
My friend worked 2 days, then gave her notice at the start of her 3rd shift, and left for good at the end of it.
aggiesal
(8,907 posts)KFC allowed us to drink as much soft-drinks as we wanted (i.e. sodas, soda-water, water, coffee & tea) FREE, under one condition, that we use our own drinking cup. I had a mug.
The soda costs the company about 3¢ per 12 oz. cup while the 12 oz. cup cost about 10¢
Also, again, we were allowed to take home any leftover chicken (original & crispy), but no mash, coleslaw, buns, ...
Usually, the chicken remaining was less than 20 pieces, so between the 3 of us, we would each take home anywhere from 1-6 pieces of chicken.
We had a little kitten, and by little, I mean it could fit in your hand.
I would get home around 10:30pm - 11pm, and I usually rode my bike to work and back.
That kitten had a chicken radar, because my mom would tell me that the kitten would be asleep on her lap,
but hear my bike pulling into the house, leap off my mom's lap and meet me at the door.
I would feed it little pieces of chicken while the kitten sat on my lap.
That Tim Hortons owner should have a place in the jerk owner hall-of-shame.
catrose
(5,059 posts)I fix & vax & chip the cats and get them adopted (or released, in the case of ferals).
torius
(1,652 posts)You are a hero!
catrose
(5,059 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)KFC aspect or not, that is an exceptional story, at least to me.
catrose
(5,059 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)Captain Zero
(6,785 posts)with a few donuts at the end of the day.
If you want to buy a franchise for a great donut shop, consider a Jack's Donuts Shop. Jack's is headquartered in Indiana.
( Yes this is a shameless plug, but I have no financial interest in it.) I just buy and eat 'em.
aggiesal
(8,907 posts)The KFC was in Hammond just off the Toll Road On/Off on Calumet Ave.
What part of Indiana is Jack's Donuts located?
BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)Bloody good for Jack's!
SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)we went to one in Richmond, BC, a few years ago and got a breakfast to kill some time before we were supposed to meet up with some people. Wife got a juice drink, and paid a $.05 deposit on the bottle (deposit was listed on the receipt).
Right on the bottle it said, "Return for refund". That turned into a very strange encounter with the cashier, and eventually escalated to the manager on duty. They had no idea how to handle a refund on a deposit! It took probably 5 or 10 minutes before the manager finally gave up, opened the register and took out a nickel to give to my wife.
I guess they had been collecting the extra $.05 on every sale of every deposit container, and never had a customer finish the beverage and try to get their deposit back, so they were just pocketing the extra 'profit'.
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)And I asked for a chai latte for my daughter and a latte for myself. They must have thought it was funny to stick teabags in a cup of coffee which is what they did. I had every intention of getting off of the highway and going back but my daughter begged me not to...I embarrass her in these situations. My latte sucked too. I called the PR number for the company and they were disinterested and did absolutely nothing. Starbucks would have sent you free drink coupons as would most businesses. I never walked into one again and told everyone what they did.
Delmette2.0
(4,157 posts)My two sons and I all came down with the flu. My boys could go through a gallon of milk in no time at all. Of course this was when we had milk delivered in the early morning, no matter what. I had 3 gallons of milk that I knew the boys couldn't drink. So I took it all over to the expectant mothers. They were very grateful for the small assist.
Just look around your community when you have extra food.
aggiesal
(8,907 posts)when someone at the grocery line in front of me is short on money and has to return some of their food to meet their monetary budget, I let the cashier know that I'll pay for the items they want to return.
I did that at Costco, when a family tried to buy a birthday cake and didn't have to money to pay for it.
So I paid it for them and told the child Happy Birthday.
I usually see this with older people. They are very grateful.
Chipper Chat
(9,673 posts)We had to throw away all unsold food at closing time. There was an old men's home a block away and we were not allowed to give to them. To this day I can still feel the pain.
NJCher
(35,620 posts)To create goodness!
Very humorous and sweet story. I actually scrolled back up the thread to re-read because I enjoyed it so much the first time around. The kitten story was amusing, too.
bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)I mean, a lot of customers would donate their spare change. If the company would match ...
turbinetree
(24,683 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)some 25+ years ago, we lived less than a block off East Colfax. There was a Little Ceaser's two blocks down. Their pizza was never my favorite, but I knew for a fact they gave out free slices to the street people.. some were homeless, many lived in the run down motels in the area. For that reason, we ordered pizza from that store at least once a month. Always two pizzas for price of one. One day I was walking out with my two pizzas and saw one of our local street people coming for a slice. I offered him one of my pizzas and said, we really can't eat two. Do you like pepperoni? The thank you and smile I got back were like a million bucks.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... when a customer reported that a "bum" was picking through the trash cans, our manager went outside to talk to him. Back then, I assumed he was going to give him the old heave-ho and threaten to call the police. Instead, he invited him inside and told him to order whatever he wanted for free.
Jay25
(417 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,667 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Wednesdays
(17,317 posts)This is not surprising.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)Little Caesars founder Mike Ilitch, died a few years ago at 87. He owned the Detroit Tigers and The Detroit Red Wings
He was a great philanthropist. He kept it a secret, that he paid Rosa Parks rent for years
More about that .....
https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/waverlydemocrat/obituary.aspx?n=mike-ilitch&pid=184101766
h2ebits
(640 posts)Thanks for sharing. I donate to a local food bank and will soon be volunteering at it.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)mac2766
(658 posts)They cut employee hours to avoid having to provide health insurance to their full time employees. Haven't paid a dime for their pizza since.
I've never been a fan of Little Caesars pizza, but I just became a fan today. I'm not saying it will be my go-to pizza, but I will certainly purchase pizza from them in the future. Of course, I live in NW Florida. I would hardly think that our local Little Caesars are as generous.
Cha
(296,848 posts)Iggo
(47,534 posts)Thats one of my number one rules.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Blue Owl
(50,269 posts)But there are dumpster divers out there who are not starving but just looking to salvage any wasted food Ive talked to some who have day jobs and homes and cars, but who are very frugal about paying for food/groceries...
Still, lovely and compassionate if indeed the dumpster diver was in a more desperate situation, you never know...