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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:46 PM

I'm sick and tired of ordinary people being fleeced," President Biden says regarding his proposal to


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Kaitlan Collins
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"I'm not trying to punish anybody, but dammit maybe because I come from a middle class neighborhood I'm sick and tired of ordinary people being fleeced," President Biden says regarding his proposal to raise the corporate tax rate to 28%.

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Reply I'm sick and tired of ordinary people being fleeced," President Biden says regarding his proposal to (Original post)
soothsayer Wednesday OP
SoonerPride Wednesday #1
lagomorph777 Wednesday #2
Harker Wednesday #5
sop Wednesday #3
calimary Wednesday #13
Vdizzle Thursday #23
calimary Thursday #25
Captain Zero Friday #31
bucolic_frolic Wednesday #4
SheltieLover Wednesday #6
Bayard Wednesday #7
Wild blueberry Wednesday #8
LaMouffette Wednesday #9
Joinfortmill Wednesday #10
diverdownjt Wednesday #14
diverdownjt Wednesday #15
3Hotdogs Wednesday #11
rickyhall Wednesday #18
BobTheSubgenius Wednesday #12
wnylib Wednesday #16
BobTheSubgenius Thursday #24
wnylib Thursday #26
BobTheSubgenius Thursday #27
wnylib Thursday #28
BobTheSubgenius Saturday #32
wnylib Saturday #33
BobTheSubgenius Saturday #34
wnylib Sunday #35
hamsterjill Wednesday #17
demtenjeep Wednesday #19
FuzzyRabbit Wednesday #20
Blue Owl Wednesday #21
KY_EnviroGuy Thursday #22
stage left Thursday #29
WyattKansas Thursday #30
betsuni Sunday #36

Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:47 PM

1. If the Fortune 500 companies and top 1% would pay the tax rate I pay I would be very happy.

And our country wouldn't have a deficit either.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:48 PM

2. President Biden is becoming very eloquent, in a blunt, simply stated way.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 04:40 PM

5. I like that.

He continues to grow on me.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 04:23 PM

3. The Former Guy, aka the Fleecer-in-Chief, only paid $750 in taxes.

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Response to sop (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:34 PM

13. THAT'S certainly something that needs serious adjustment.

He can afford to pay A LOT more than 750-dollars in taxes.

Maybe $750 PER DAY for maybe a year. That might help him get caught up in what he really owes the U.S. Treasury - somewhat, anyway.

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Response to calimary (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:37 AM

23. I think you under estimated that.

Way more than $273,750.00 should be paid by that orange shit gibbon.

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Response to Vdizzle (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:12 PM

25. Indeed. That amount would be a mere down payment.

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Response to calimary (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 9, 2021, 07:07 AM

31. Yes, his entire life he's argued with IRS about

What his taxes are, and ends up paying zero most years. We instead, get ours figured and pay them, happy that maybe we get a partial refund on what we had deducted.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 04:28 PM

4. I remember when G.H.W.B. promised to buy a pair of socks

and didn't know much about checkout scanners.

I doubt XPFG45 ever was in a checkout line.

Biden connects with people. He knows what it's like. He hasn't been out of touch for his entire life.

Republicans must be crapping their gold-laced undies.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:02 PM

6. Ty President Biden!

Brought tears to my eyes.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:07 PM

7. How can you not love this guy?

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:15 PM

8. Us too!

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:25 PM

9. Joe Biden is the REAL "man of the people."

Love you much, Joe Biden! Thank you for being you.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:34 PM

10. Love Joe

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:34 PM

14. How understated and very much appreciated...






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Response to diverdownjt (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:36 PM

15. I'm really coming around to this feeling.....

He really is all of us in one............................

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:48 PM

11. Only 28% ?

Let go back to the tax rate during the Carter administration..... before Ronnie Raygun. What was it? 70%?

AND THE COUNTRY PROSPERED !!!

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:40 PM

18. It was like 37% under Clinton, I think.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:49 PM

12. I hate to admit this in this forum, but...

...I was not as impressed with President Obama as I am with President Biden. I know that part of it is because of expectations - overly high for BHO, in the time in which he was in office, and, clearly, much too low for JRB.

He was the best VP BHO could have asked for, and, as such, didn't make a huge splash in that office...as is proper. The USA and the world had no idea what they were getting into, because the beginning of his administration has been, for now, at least, on track to be one of the very few, truly great Presidents.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:40 PM

16. Obama had such a critical financial mess

when he started that there was little time for any thing else. Even with a Dem Congress, he was limited in what he could accomplish after the Dem Senate lost its 60 vote lead within months of Obama's inauguration. In 2010, Dems lost the House. Rs pushed obstruction as soon as the Dem 60 vote lead in the Senate ended.

Obama accomplished a lot, given the Congress he had to deal with. After 2010, there was the Tea Part faction to contend with. In today's polarized atmosphere, which was strong even then, it is necessary to have both houses of Congress to get anything done.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:10 PM

24. I completely agree that he was hamstrung by the most obstructionist Congress in history.

Passing the ACA in that climate was little short of a miracle. I just found his demeanour and speech to be on the conciliatory side for what I'd hoped would be a fiery progressive.

And don't get me wrong, I still admire him greatly, but I've actually been almost shocked that President Biden has this much fight in him. As I tried to convey, *some* more accomplishment can seem like less when your expectations are high, and vice versa.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:55 PM

26. I think that Obama was trying to prevent

further escalation of polarization. This is a position that leaders often take in times of crucial divisions. It's what Lincoln tried to do prior to the Civil War and Lincoln was one of Obama's most admired leaders. Obama was more successful at it than Lincoln, since violent insurrection did not happen until 4 years after Obama was out of office.

There were times when I wished that Obama had spoken and acted more boldly. But I also realized that he was sitting on a powder keg, especially after ACA was passed. RWers were hoping and looking for something, anything, that they could use to start an open rebellion. The timing was not right for bolder actions, and not possible when Dems did not have enough control of Congress. Walking a fine line to maintain some stability was difficult but essential.

OTOH, Biden took office after the pandemic, horrors of trumpism, and a violent insurrection exposed just how awful the RW is. Plus, he has both houses by slim margins, so Biden has to act fast to get the most done that he can. A quick, bold turnaround from the RW disaster is the best hope right now for bringing the nation back together under rational leadership. Defeating covid, restoring the economy, and improving people's lives is the surest way to gain support from the largest number of people. That's why Rs are scared enough to suppress the vote even more than before.

Obama and Biden have had to use different tactics for different times and national moods.

I am very pleased with Biden's boldness. I am also pleased with Obama's accomplishments while walking a hire wire without a net. He became a symbol for rationality and hope to sustain us through the former guy's insanity.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:11 PM

27. You make very good points.

Also, I just grasped your handle. My wife is from Chautauqua County.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #27)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:18 PM

28. Where in Chautauqua County?

My husband was from Frewsburg.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #28)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 05:59 PM

32. She was born in Jamestown, and lived in Frewsburg, also.

They soon moved to Panama, when she was about a year old. Most recently, she lived in Lakewood, but now here in Victoria BC.

Small world, as they say.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #32)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 06:21 PM

33. Small world, indeed. I am from Erie, PA.

Met my husband when he was a grad student at a university in Erie, taking night classes and working days in the office where I worked. We moved around a bit for his job, and ended up in western NY. Chauauqua County is VERY west, but western NY includes Erie, Niagara, Monroe, Cattaraugus, Genesee, Wyoming, Allegany, and Livingston counties, plus a few more. Except to people in NYC. To them, EVERYTHING outside of the NYC boroughs and Long Island is simply "upstate. "

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Response to wnylib (Reply #33)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:41 PM

34. Yes, my wife has mentioned the special place in the hearts of rural NYers that NYC holds.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #34)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 02:11 AM

35. Actually, I like NYC. I just don't like

their attitude toward the rest of the state.

My husband's brother lived in Queens and worked in Manhattan (WTC). We visited him there a few times. When we lived in Cleveland and his brother visited us there, he called Cleveland a "quaint little town" and asked there was an orchestra, art museum, or any theater in Cleveland. I told him that he was being provincial and there really is a civilized world outside of his NYC cocoon.

I could live in moderate sized cities and I have. I could not live in NYC, but it is fun to visit.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:03 PM

17. Joe is the real deal.

When he says it, I believe it.

And hes right. A lot of us are sick and tired of ordinary Americans getting fleeced.

I believe hes going to do his best to help that situation.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:41 PM

19. GO Joe GO

preach it

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:17 PM

20. Only 28%?

I would have been happy to pay only 28% back when I was still working. The billionaire class could pay 90% top rate and they still would not be homeless or go hungry.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:40 PM

21. K&R

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:03 AM

22. So refreshing to hear our President say these things.....

and make the Rethug unfettered capitalism fanboys squirm a little.....

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:29 PM

29. It's like we really lucked up with Joe

And got Truman and FDR in one package. Give them hell, Joe!

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:47 PM

30. For much too long, statements like this have been missing in Washington.

Which is how Republicans tricked working Americans into voting for them and their pissed-on/shit-on Republican Policies, while Democratic Politicians have been explaining the mechanics of it.

You have to just tell it like it is to grab people's attention and make the point.

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 02:37 AM

36. I like that he says he's middle class. These days there seems to be the belief that only

people from working class backgrounds can be progressive.

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