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Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:48 PM

The most frightening thing about the current scenario in the US

is that ReTHUGs have no problem overthrowing the elected executive. Further they are against gun control for one reason - they are facilitating the sale of weapons to their goons.

The insurrectionists must be sent to prison (including the big fish) or things will get worse.
There must be serious consequences.

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Reply The most frightening thing about the current scenario in the US (Original post)
malaise Apr 11 OP
RKP5637 Apr 11 #1
malaise Apr 11 #2
wnylib Apr 11 #47
malaise Apr 11 #49
wnylib Apr 11 #51
Probatim Apr 12 #63
Shermann Apr 11 #3
RKP5637 Apr 11 #4
malaise Apr 11 #9
KPN Apr 11 #42
KPN Apr 11 #41
dianaredwing Apr 12 #74
StrictlyRockers Apr 11 #5
Initech Apr 11 #7
blueinredohio Apr 11 #8
malaise Apr 11 #12
Initech Apr 11 #21
malaise Apr 12 #62
malaise Apr 11 #10
StrictlyRockers Apr 11 #28
malaise Apr 11 #36
wnylib Apr 11 #50
uponit7771 Apr 11 #39
CrispyQ Apr 11 #6
malaise Apr 11 #11
johnthewoodworker Apr 11 #13
bucolic_frolic Apr 11 #14
louis-t Apr 11 #16
rickyhall Apr 11 #15
malaise Apr 11 #17
rickyhall Apr 11 #18
malaise Apr 11 #20
IrishAfricanAmerican Apr 11 #22
Tennessee Hillbilly Apr 11 #19
malaise Apr 11 #27
demigoddess Apr 11 #23
YoshidaYui Apr 11 #24
malaise Apr 11 #33
YoshidaYui Apr 11 #38
Pepsidog Apr 11 #25
malaise Apr 11 #29
Evolve Dammit Apr 11 #26
spanone Apr 11 #30
bluestarone Apr 11 #31
malaise Apr 11 #34
bluestarone Apr 11 #35
Useless in FL Apr 11 #32
Martin68 Apr 11 #37
malaise Apr 11 #44
kentuck Apr 11 #40
malaise Apr 11 #48
FakeNoose Apr 11 #43
malaise Apr 11 #45
Blue Owl Apr 11 #46
zaj Apr 11 #52
BobTheSubgenius Apr 11 #53
Dan Apr 12 #54
Straw Man Apr 12 #70
ansible Apr 12 #55
malaise Apr 12 #56
The Wizard Apr 12 #57
malaise Apr 12 #58
Kablooie Apr 12 #59
malaise Apr 12 #60
llashram Apr 12 #61
Bluethroughu Apr 12 #64
Jilly_in_VA Apr 12 #65
malaise Apr 12 #66
llmart Apr 12 #67
Ford_Prefect Apr 12 #68
malaise Apr 12 #69
Kid Berwyn Apr 12 #71
malaise Apr 12 #72
orangecrush Apr 12 #73

Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:50 PM

1. Seldom do consequences occur, so they just ratchet it up another notch. I often wonder how

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long will this bullshit continue. How many people have to needlessly die.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:52 PM

2. This will continue until there are serious consequences

Another worry is how many persons in charge of protecting democratic institutions are themselves part of the seditionists?

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Response to malaise (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:56 PM

47. That is the scariest part.

I sometimes fear that Jan 6 was a dry run for insurrectionists who want an overthrow of democracy regardless of who leads it - the orange fascist former guy, or someone else.

And if Jan 6 was a dry run, what's next?

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Response to wnylib (Reply #47)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:01 PM

49. Well the good news is that the system won on Jan 6

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and is likely to win again but only if people are severely punished

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Response to malaise (Reply #49)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:40 PM

51. True, the leaders and not just the attackers

need to be arrested, convicted, and dealt with harshly. But it will take some dedicated effort to nail them with solid evidence because these leaders are smooth at covering their trail, or leaving no concrete trail. People can be convicted on circumstantial evidence, though, if the evidence and the prosecutor are good.

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Response to malaise (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 11:30 AM

63. We'll only see consequences when they start shooting their masters.

When the militias realize they've been backing the wrong horse and lash out, that's when something will happen.

And it'll be awful for all of us - not just for the idiots who stormed the Capitol.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:53 PM

3. I tried to put numbers to it in this thread

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Response to Shermann (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:56 PM

4. Thanks for the link! n/t

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Response to Shermann (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:32 PM

9. Great link

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Response to Shermann (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:29 PM

42. Spot on post.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:21 PM

41. Exactly. There should have been arrests and sentences

in the Bundy grazing land grab in NV 8 years or so ago. Oathkeepers backed the feds down with an armed presence. Similar thing with the Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupation a couple years after, though there was the very short shootout when the feds surprised the group of them that were traveling to a meeting elsewhere. Maybe the Feds should have stormed the occupied refuge headquarters instead of hoping for a peaceful solution. Avoiding armed conflict in order to appease and preserve peace has worked more to embolden them and seemingly just postpone the conflict till later. Arrest and try the instigators behind the Capitol storming or we will surely suffer something worse down the road.

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Response to KPN (Reply #41)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 03:37 PM

74. You don't reach peaceful solutions

with people with guns...ever.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:57 PM

5. The direction that this is pointing is truly frightening.

This is the birth of a fascist state. We have to lock up the seditious traitors AND their leaders, like Roger Stone and Trump.

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Response to StrictlyRockers (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:20 PM

7. I feel like if we don't put a stop to it now...

This will be way worse than Nazi Germany, and the target will be anyone with a D next to their name.

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Response to Initech (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:24 PM

8. Agree a million percent.

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Response to Initech (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:37 PM

12. Every military leader who sent security to his home and not the Capitol should be

locked up - they were clearly part of the attempted coup.

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Response to malaise (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:08 PM

21. Been saying for a while now that the Capitol Riot was an inside job!

Now which Congress person or persons were responsible for sending text messages to the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers? Boebert? Greene? Graham? Goehmert? Hawley? There's a lot of suspects here and they should all go down.

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Response to Initech (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

62. _1,000

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Response to StrictlyRockers (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:34 PM

10. THIS

has to happen - or else.

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Response to malaise (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:46 PM

28. How hard is it to emigrate to Jamaica?

Asking for a friend..

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Response to StrictlyRockers (Reply #28)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:58 PM

36. LOL

Have you seen our Covid rate or our crime rate?
After you check those let's talk

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Response to malaise (Reply #36)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:21 PM

50. I'm vaccinated, so that's one problem

covered. Don't know about the crime rate part.

But Canada is much closer for me.

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Response to StrictlyRockers (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:18 PM

39. +1, we're looking more like Spain circa 1920-ish before the right took to arms in the country

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:11 PM

6. We don't have very good history of holding them accountable. -nt

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:36 PM

11. I don't know because January 6 was a first since Independence

They'd better be serious

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:38 PM

13. Republican/Nazis will never stop themselves.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:40 PM

14. History offers plenty of examples

How many governments would be lenient with insurrectionists? China? Great Britain? Russia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Duquet

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:43 PM

16. Hell, in China the cops beat you up for not wearing a mask.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:41 PM

15. Something must be done about military hardware in the hands of civilians including police.

There's enough stuff out there now to form small armies. Only thing they don't have is armor and air support. But drones are not that far away.

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Response to rickyhall (Reply #15)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:46 PM

17. Yes but there's another problem

military hardware in the hands of military men and women who are seditionists

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Response to malaise (Reply #17)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 05:54 PM

18. Like the 40% Marines that won't take the vaccine?

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Response to rickyhall (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:07 PM

20. That and the number of seditionists in the military

including some in leadership positions

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Response to malaise (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:13 PM

22. Many in leadership positions.

This is one of the most perilous times in our nation's history.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:05 PM

19. They are full of hate and rage.

Things haven't going their way. The insurrection failed....Trump is out of the white house and Biden is undoing a lot of the damage he did... Public opinion favors many progressive causes. Even big corporations are turning against the repugs.

But every time these cowardly misfits lose, their hate and rage increase, and they become even more dangerous. It's a precarious situation.

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Response to Tennessee Hillbilly (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:43 PM

27. Agree

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:17 PM

23. take my advice, plan for a republican takeover of the government at first chance. They want a

one party(republican)government. That was why they tried the overturn of that election. Then they would have said, we can't allow dems to ever have high office again, because they cheated in that election.

only thing we can do is elect every democrat we can. take power away from them.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:20 PM

24. oh Malaise I fully agree

There is only ONE Political party in the United States, there used to be two until it turned into a TERRORIST organization... bent on over throwing the US Government.. if that is not Treason than someone please correct me.

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Response to YoshidaYui (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:54 PM

33. The Seditionist in chief

tore up the peace and tranquility part of the Constitution - all he did was use fear and hate to promote his agenda - raw fascism. That monster has to go to prison - with his goons.

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Response to malaise (Reply #33)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:08 PM

38. i really want to see TRUMP in an orange jump suit....

and his goons, as well.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:22 PM

25. The message must be sent to all the insurrection will be severely punished. They talk about 1/6 like

it was a rush to the ticket booth to get a good seat. I mean literally hitting a cop will get you jail or prison where I am from. Storming the Capitol-They stormed the Capitol and trampled over cops. Just take a second and think to yourself, did you ever think you would see that in the USA? I have a feeling DC federal judges are gonna unload on these people. If ever a message needed to be sent it is now.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #25)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:46 PM

29. Some of those judges aren't even qualified for their positions

We need to know how many are also seditionists - these are serious times. The good news is that the system survived Trump on January 6 - now it's time for punishment.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:39 PM

26. Totally agree. This will not stop unless the crimes are dealt with. This is the DOJ challenge. nt

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:47 PM

30. 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼K&R 👍🏼 👍🏼 👍🏼

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:52 PM

31. IF this bullshit continues by these UN-AMERICANS

They will not abide by ANY court decisions at all (Including SC decisions) Complete takeover will be attempted.

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #31)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:55 PM

34. Well their leader condemned the SC and all the other courts who disagreed with him

There must be consequences

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Response to malaise (Reply #34)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:58 PM

35. I really see where the court system will fall apart here

THESE IDIOTS will NOT listen to judges, plus i'm really not sure where the sheriffs and police factor in here. I worry they will be against us too.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:52 PM

32. Yes, it is very frightening ...

I never thought that in my 76 years that I would see this situation playing out in plain sight!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:59 PM

37. Many of us liberals own guns and know how to use them, too. But I doubt that will

ever be necessary. Our military can handle any wannabe militia fratboys.

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #37)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:45 PM

44. I was relieved when he and his goons were beaten back

on January 6 despite obvious sabotage, but unless there are severe consequences, they will try again.

This morning when I heard one of M$Greedia's braying hacks suggesting that Trump was going to be the ReTHUG kingmaker, I got really angry.

If the leader of the attempted coup were a Muslim all of media would be calling for a trial in Guantanamo Bay. I say that to suggest that there are seditionists everywhere. Thankfully they are a minority but there must be severe consequences for that attempted coup and the threats to the governor of Michigan.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:20 PM

40. Did not one of the Proud Boys meet with Trump at the White House?

Did I read that somewhere??

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Response to kentuck (Reply #40)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:59 PM

48. I think that was the leader - then they lied and said he took a public tour

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-protests-proud-boys-idUSKBN28M0V2

The White House said a leader of the far-right Proud Boys group who posted photos on social media outside the executive mansion on Saturday had not been invited and was instead on a holiday tour open to the public.

Proud Boys chairman Enrique Tarrio posted photos taken inside the White House gates on the conservative platform Parler, adding that he had received a “last minute invite to an undisclosed location.”

“He was on a public White House Christmas tour,” White House spokesman Judd Deere said when asked about Tarrio’s suggestion he was invited. “He did not have a meeting with the president, nor did the White House invite him.”

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I am more curious about the Capitol Hill tours around the same time

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:35 PM

43. They've been lied to, and convinced that Biden isn't the President

That's why the Repukes want to overthrow him. If they accepted the fact that Biden is the duly elected President they wouldn't be trying to do this.

It's Chump's completely false narrative that is driving this.



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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #43)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:52 PM

45. They are adults who were conned by a conman

They are responsible for their actions including believing this monster. Now they must all face the consequences.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:54 PM

46. K&R

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:42 PM

52. It will get worse either way.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:57 PM

53. Agreed.

One BIG problem, as I see it, is that the authorities can't seem to charge the insurrectionists with crimes as serious as circumstances demand.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 02:17 AM

54. The GOP is against gun control until and unless

People of Color starting buying automatic weapons in large numbers to shoot rabbits?

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Response to Dan (Reply #54)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:30 PM

70. Roots of gun control

NY's 1911 Sullivan Law, a may-issue handgun licensing scheme, was enacted by corrupt Tammany Hall politicians to make sure that only their goons would be armed. The current may-issue criteria in NYC give preference to celebrities and people who transport large amounts of cash or jewelry. Apparently, their lives are more important than those of the hoi polloi.

California's Mulford Act, banning open carry, was drafted in response the Black Panthers engaging in armed patrols of the city of Oakland. The Panthers responded by staging an open-carry protest at the state capitol, but the Act was subsequently passed with "urgency." Ronald Reagan was Governor of California at the time. The Mulford Act is still in effect.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 02:20 AM

55. Do you really think gun control is a good idea right now? You expect to trust cops?

You'd be an idiot to still trust cops to do the right things these days. Especially after what's happening in Minneapolis right at this very moment.

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Response to ansible (Reply #55)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:30 AM

56. Gun control is urgent n/t

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:46 AM

57. Anyone dismissing

Trump's role in the attempted coup d'etat is part of the problem. Trump attempted to overthrow the President Elect and nullify the election, and thus ignore the will of the American people. Any way you cut it, Trump belongs in prison from now until the end of the world.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #57)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:48 AM

58. +1,000

Trump belongs in prison from now until the end of the world.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:49 AM

59. They weren't outraged at the insurrection, they were disappointed.

They aren't against grabbing power by coup.
This is something new.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #59)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 08:52 AM

60. Yes and no

They have been doing this overseas for a very long time

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:43 AM

61. this++

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 11:40 AM

64. This is the only way to save our democracy.

We need to make clear, our Country's representative democracy matters, and ALL who commit acts of terrorism against it go to prison for a very long time. 20 years.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:04 PM

65. Think back to the fact

that this started in Michigan under the regime of R. Ick Snyder, when Republigoons passed a law that said the state could take over any city that they deemed inefficiently managed financially and install their own executive, whose will superseded that of the democratically elected city officials. They took over several cities in the state this way, mostly majority-Black cities, including, IIRC, Benton Harbor and St. Joseph. I want to say Flint but I'm not sure they got that one. I'm pretty sure ALEC is behind this move. If they can't do it legally, though, they will do it illegally.

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #65)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:07 PM

66. Excellent reminder

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Response to Jilly_in_VA (Reply #65)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

67. +1000

Add to that making Michigan a "right to work" state.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:05 PM

68. It doesn't help when the MSM greys the line by sympathizing or presenting their view as an alternate

position to the "mainstream GOP" when it is clear that the GOP national leadership as well as in many GOP dominated states has gone there too.

The GOP has left mainstream conservative voters to hang in the wind or treats them as a given source of votes who have no alternatives. While I am sure there are many who think of themselves as Republican in a conventional sense, as of the last poll they are a large minority within the party and have no real voice in it or in government at any level.

For the Press to treat the party as representative of anyone except their RW paying customers is dishonest, and the MSM know it is, even if they do have groceries to sell with it.

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #68)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:10 PM

69. THIS

It is truly shocking that Trump is not condemned by M$Greedia - if only he was a Muslim

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:37 PM

71. That's why bringing in witness testimony was so vital in Impeachment 2.

Remember that GOP Congresswoman who heard Drumpf and McCarthy? Her statement got read into the record. It’d have been a whole lot more effective to have it run on TV for a few days and for ever.



Washington (CNN)In an expletive-laced phone call with House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy while the US Capitol was under attack, then-President Donald Trump said the rioters cared more about the election results than McCarthy did.

"Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are," Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy.

McCarthy insisted that the rioters were Trump's supporters and begged Trump to call them off.

Trump's comment set off what Republican lawmakers familiar with the call described as a shouting match between the two men. A furious McCarthy told the then-President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, "Who the f--k do you think you are talking to?" according to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call.

Source: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html



Traitors need to be punished. Otherwise they’ll try again.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #71)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:45 PM

72. Great post

Traitors must be punished!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Mon Apr 12, 2021, 03:13 PM

73. KICK

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