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kentuck

(111,078 posts)
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:54 PM Apr 2021

Does anyone in Washington, DC still read DU?

There was a time in the past when it was monitored by Congressional aides and assistants to glean any worthwhile ideas that might come from the "underground".

Does anyone know if that still happens or is most of the discussion now on DU just singing to the choir?

Does it serve any worthwhile purpose in regards to policy discussions?

Have we minimized ourselves into trivial pursuits?

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Does anyone in Washington, DC still read DU? (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2021 OP
I have my suspicions that they lurk here. LakeArenal Apr 2021 #1
This place is pretty mainstream party stuff Sympthsical Apr 2021 #2
The "underground" in the name refers to Democrats feeling they had to go underground betsuni Apr 2021 #13
There were long debates about whether being "progressive" was enough to maintain credibility... kentuck Apr 2021 #14
Few, if any, live DC people post here DFW Apr 2021 #22
Having been a member since 2002 and a lurker for quite a while before that, enough Apr 2021 #3
LOL Croney Apr 2021 #4
'Very nice elderly liberals,' I luv it! appalachiablue Apr 2021 #6
And yet, sometimes a 24 YO will learn something they didn't know. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2021 #10
I'm an "elderly liberal" alright.... AZ8theist Apr 2021 #12
Started in 2001 in my mid-30's...does mid 50's count as elderly? JanMichael Apr 2021 #19
Hey, you think that's scary? DFW Apr 2021 #20
Who would want to miss all the pet and music posts? Sneederbunk Apr 2021 #5
Oh and don't forget the long winded physics papers!! I love 'em...nt mitch96 Apr 2021 #9
Unlikely. Why flatter ourselves? NurseJackie Apr 2021 #7
I can recall discussions from earlier days... kentuck Apr 2021 #8
This is no other option because Republicans went off the deep RW end of the pool. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2021 #11
But the "far left" is not an option for those that wouold vote for the Democratic Party... kentuck Apr 2021 #15
My only point is, I'd vote Bernie or Joe....don't matter. I always vote for the saner Party. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2021 #16
Sane to you. kentuck Apr 2021 #17
I guess. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2021 #18
youre right samnsara Apr 2021 #21
There's nothing wrong with party loyalty. The notion that... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #24
Members of Congress (House and Senate) not so much bottomofthehill Apr 2021 #23
What is your evidence that it was "monitored"? brooklynite Apr 2021 #25
Limbaugh used to mention DU on occasion... kentuck Apr 2021 #28
My guess is that they ck in just like they ck in with leftyladyfrommo Apr 2021 #26
I doubt it, this is an aged (on average) captive audience, that is not a all Celerity Apr 2021 #27
Agent Mike is still around. Hotler Apr 2021 #29
I think I read that a few of Joe Manchins aides post here. nt Autumn Apr 2021 #30

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
1. I have my suspicions that they lurk here.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:57 PM
Apr 2021

I swear a tracked two or three that joined the day Biden declared. Always had something positive on days Joe made announcements.

Sympthsical

(9,072 posts)
2. This place is pretty mainstream party stuff
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:00 PM
Apr 2021

I do think a few minor operatives post here. Sometimes the talking points come out fast and repetitively. But, for the most part, it's a pretty small community in the scheme of things, a little bubble floating on the internet. I came in because a friend posts here and asked me to join. It's interesting enough.

The site largely seems focused on whatever's happening on Twitter. I can't say I've read anything in regards to policy or friendly disagreement about major issues. It can pretty lock-steppy. I just interject when I disagree in part or whole. Otherwise, stroke stroke.

Nothing wrong with that, either. I subscribe to subreddits that are only one thing as well. Sometimes you don't feel like getting into it with people.

A true "underground" place isn't having a go at AOC or Bernie Sanders every ten seconds of the day. Just sayin'.

betsuni

(25,462 posts)
13. The "underground" in the name refers to Democrats feeling they had to go underground
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:30 PM
Apr 2021

after G.W. Bush became president, nothing else. It's a place for Democrats.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
14. There were long debates about whether being "progressive" was enough to maintain credibility...
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:33 PM
Apr 2021

....on the "democraticunderground", back in those days, as I recall. Back during the Carlos Jiacinto days, for those that remember?

DFW

(54,341 posts)
22. Few, if any, live DC people post here
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 11:09 PM
Apr 2021

A few of their employees do, but they are often campaign people who just try to spread "the word," even if it's letting everyone know what brand of toothpaste Sen. Sanders used last night, or some such vital detail, every ten seconds of the day. In fact, now that the election is history, even that has become sporadic.

I never look at Twitter, so I have no clue whether most content here comes from there or not. Mine sure as hell doesn't.

DU does occasionally get monitored, and sometimes something posted here is quoted, or referred to. Creative original thinking gets noted. Repetition of ANY already established point of view does not. A reasoned post based on "why I think we can win back Iowa's Senate seat, and here's how" would get noticed. "Nancy Pelosi is too old and needs to retire NOW," or the week's 198th post saying why capitalism is evil, will be ignored with a yawn.

enough

(13,256 posts)
3. Having been a member since 2002 and a lurker for quite a while before that,
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:07 PM
Apr 2021

I think DU has changed so much, and the entire internet world has changed so much, that I doubt DU has any influence. It is now essentially a chat room for all us very nice elderly liberals. It’s a great place to post when you or someone in your family gets the vaccine, and then again when you get the second shot.

I still love it and hope it never goes away

appalachiablue

(41,125 posts)
6. 'Very nice elderly liberals,' I luv it!
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:41 PM
Apr 2021


DC checking in but I had to give up my 'operative' ways, Lol.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,454 posts)
10. And yet, sometimes a 24 YO will learn something they didn't know.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:01 PM
Apr 2021

DU is known and the pulse is taken, pretty sure of that. Why? Cuz' real time news events happen here and people comment.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
20. Hey, you think that's scary?
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:47 PM
Apr 2021

I joined in 2006 (I think!) when I was 54, and I just turned 69. Does THAT count as elderly?

Apparently, a lot of places think it's "senior," but they no longer give discounts because of it. Oh, well.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
8. I can recall discussions from earlier days...
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 08:50 PM
Apr 2021

...when people questioned whether "independents" were OK on DU so long as they espoused "progressive and democratic" ideas.

Gradually it became a place where Party loyalty became a litmus test for anyone posting on DU?

I do not know if that improved DU in expressing free and independent thought? I rather doubt it.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,454 posts)
11. This is no other option because Republicans went off the deep RW end of the pool.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:03 PM
Apr 2021

Seriously, Bernie or Joe? Both, cuz, the opposite is too bizarre to contemplate.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
15. But the "far left" is not an option for those that wouold vote for the Democratic Party...
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:35 PM
Apr 2021

...or, at the very least, would not vote for the Republican Party. That is the choice that should be offered to them, in my opinion.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,454 posts)
16. My only point is, I'd vote Bernie or Joe....don't matter. I always vote for the saner Party.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:39 PM
Apr 2021

Today, there is only one sane Party.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. There's nothing wrong with party loyalty. The notion that...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:49 AM
Apr 2021
Gradually it became a place where Party loyalty became a litmus test for anyone posting on DU?
I'm very much in favor of that. There's nothing wrong with party loyalty. The notion that simply "not voting" for the Republican leads to things like Nader and Stein who siphon-off enough votes that would have made a big difference in more than one national election.

When it comes to national politics, we have a defacto two-party system. The person who's elected President will come from ONE of the two parties. The Independent Party, the Socialist Party, the Green Party, the Birthday Party candidates are all jokes and spoilers.

When it comes to control of he two houses of Congress, neither will EVER be controlled by any party OTHER than the Democrats or the Republicans.

Party loyalty is vital. Egos are not.

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
25. What is your evidence that it was "monitored"?
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 07:52 AM
Apr 2021

From the dozens of House and Senate members (and staff) I've talked to, I've never picked up a DU "message".

Celerity

(43,304 posts)
27. I doubt it, this is an aged (on average) captive audience, that is not a all
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:18 AM
Apr 2021

friendly to younger cohorts, thus it hardly affects recruitment. If this board (and its model, tenor, and tone) was the primary outreach to younger voters, dog help the party and the nation.

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