Mueller meticulously documented Trump's several felony obstruction of justice crimes, preserving the

[soothsayer]

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Glenn Kirschner
@glennkirschner2
Mueller meticulously documented Trump’s several felony obstruction of justice crimes, preserving the evidence for when Trump left office. Mueller pointedly testified that Trump can be prosecuted for his crimes upon leaving office. So . . . how about some justice? #JusticeMatters

[Wounded Bear]

1. Yep! Release the unredacted Mueller Report...now!

[global1]

2. Who Has The Authority To Release The Unredacted Report?....nt

[mopinko]

8. joe. merrick garland.

[Qutzupalotl]

11. Even the redacted version has actionable evidence

especially Vol. II. Appendix D shows deliberate intent to mislead investigators. Garland should proceed when ready.

[MerryHolidays]

3. I like Mr. Kirschner, but I think he is glossing over what Mueller did/didn't do

I don't think Mueller "pointedly" testified that Trump can be prosecuted for his crimes upon leaving office. His testimony was nearly 2 years ago, so I confess that I haven't pulled the transcripts of his Congressional hearing. But, if I recall correctly, it was almost a throwaway response. I do recall Mueller basically bent over backwards to avoid discussing Trump's criminal liability or was basically incapable of doing so because he didn't really appear to have the facts mastered.

I would like to see the least redacted version of the Mueller possible so we can tell what exactly Trump did or didn't do. Again, I recall Mueller's findings were nebulous at best.

[PJMcK]

4. Your post is confusing

On the one hand, you seem to denigrate Robert Mueller's testimony.

On the other hand, you want to read his unreacted report.

Either you trust his findings or you don't. Which is it?

Consider this possibility. During Mr. Mueller's testimony, he may have been very limited in what he could say without revealing elements of the report that were classified. This stance could have appeared that he was "bent over backwards" or that he didn't "have the facts mastered."

For whatever reasons, Mr. Mueller couldn't be the hero we wanted. But if he's preserved all of the evidence of Trump's wrong-doing and the new team is going to act on it, I'll give him a pass. The political position he was in must have been confounding and limiting as well as frustrating.

[MerryHolidays]

6. It's both...they are not mutually exclusive

You do understand that Mueller's oral testimony is one thing....his written report is another? And we don't have the full report. However, you seem to be quite certain of what's in the report and why Mueller was so reticent to testify, so perhaps you have better info than me. If not, your post is equally confusing to me.

My point relates to Mr. Kirschner's descriptions of "meticulous" and "pointed". I definitely did not see that in Mueller's oral testimony. Perhaps it is in his written report. That's not difficult to understand.

On edit: please don't get me wrong. I would love for the Mueller Report to be redacted to the maximum possible. I trust President Biden and Attorney General Garland to do that. We all know we couldn't trust Barr and Trump to do it: they took whatever Mueller did and obfuscated it so much that I am not sure any of us really know what's there. I hope, perhaps like you, that Mueller did reveal all of the criminality involved. The best way to do that is to release the Mueller Report unredacted as far as it can be (there are clearly things that cannot be redacted as it might give away intelligence information that could do more harm, but I suspect that is not the basis of all the redactions that were made). My greatest indictment against Mueller and his team is that they allowed themselves to become part of the obfuscation. Last year, at least one key Mueller deputy unleashed a pretty scathing view of the failures of the Mueller team. That was interesting, but I find it highly objectionable that these views were made in the context of a book release.

[Duppers]

10. Fully agree.

👍

[Qutzupalotl]

12. Mueller was asked point-blank whether Trump could be prosecuted

after leaving office. He replied with a quick “Yes!” which startled the Republican questioner.

Volume II of his report has at least five clear documented instances of obstruction, plus a few more requiring further evidence.

[Qutzupalotl]

14. I came across the clip of that exchange today...

Link to tweet

[MerryHolidays]

16. Here's another post

I've made several posts on that thread. I don't agree that Mueller was lying. That's totally wrong. But his monosyllabic responses in the face of the massive obstruction and obfuscation he faced is quite shocking to me.

Take a look: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=15341172

[Qutzupalotl]

17. We are in agreement.

Mueller's report could have been the basis for another impeachment (or several), but Barr's misrepresentation of its contents successfully swayed public opinion, reducing pressure on Congress to act.

[MerryHolidays]

20. Totally agreed

And Mueller's outrage, which he should have exhibited in his July 2019 Congressional testimony, was the perfect place to address Barr's obfuscations and the massive obstruction he faced over 2 years. He clearly didn't do that.

I totally also agree that if you look at the report and hear his testimony, it's clear what he's saying or at least implying (sorta'). But the gaslighting campaign by trump and his henchpeople required a hero. Mueller was no hero.

President Biden and Attorney General Garland hopefully will expose what really happened.

[Blue Owl]

7. Throw the scammer in the slammer

In addition to all those obstruction of justice crimes, how about the latest revelation that he scammed his donors out of millions? Sure, he may have had to give it back and all, but there should still be some penal penalties for Fat Donny...

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

13. The sheer volume of criminal activity perpetrated by the creep who previously

occupied the WH is mind-boggling. White collar crime is a scourge, but Donnie took it to a new level. He can't possibly live even close to long enough to do all the time he deserves to serve.

[BSdetect]

9. We should not allow drumpf to escape arrest 'cause we need to heal BS

The full report contains enough to convict him not to mention his inciting a treasonous attack.

[spanone]

15. K&R

[triron]

18. What is Garland waiting for?

[Mr. Ected]

19. Honestly, this is the most important single matter that faces us today

If we allow this to be overlooked, glossed over, forgotten, or moved on from, we, with 100% CERTAINTY, guarantee that it will happen again, and next time we may not recover our democracy.

Hyperbole? I think not. I know not.