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The odd case of the Lake View litterbug started three years ago. Someone driving past a home on Versailles Road in the dark of night slowed down to fling a used McDonald's coffee cup onto the edge of a front lawn before pulling away.
The driver did it over and over again, nearly every day since then, throwing one or two coffee cups, sometimes with soggy cigarette butts inside, out the window and onto the property of Edward and Cheryl Patton. The couple eventually filled 10 garbage bags with more than 300 of these coffee cups.
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Earlier this month, some neighbors agreed to help the Pattons find out. They set up a stakeout and jotted down the license plate, which the Pattons shared with Hamburg police.
Officers set their own trap and, that night, pulled over a 76-year-old man moments after he deposited more trash at the Pattons' home.
The couple say they were shocked to learn his identity: The man cited for harassment was Cheryl Patton's former co-worker, Larry Pope, and, she told police, he had resented her for years.
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/someone-tossed-used-coffee-cups-onto-a-lake-view-lawn-for-three-years-until-police/article_91971dbc-9eb7-11eb-b6a6-2fcd1bceef1d.html
Edward Patton collected a year or two worth of coffee cups that were thrown on his lawn. He also has index cards keeping track of what happened.
https://www.newser.com/story/305074/neighbors-help-crack-3-year-long-coffee-cup-caper.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top
The first one must have seemed like a minor annoyance. Somebody tossed an empty coffee cup from McDonald's on the lawn of Edward and Cheryl Patton of Lake View, NY. But as the Buffalo News explains, the minor nuisance became an almost daily occurrence over the next three years. The same vehicle would drive by, usually after sunset, and toss a cup on the lawn, sometimes with a cigarette butt or two inside. Edward Patton, 80, set up security cameras and bought binoculars, but he could never get the license plate or a clear view of the driver. Finally, neighbors spotted the SUV in the act, followed, and got a plate number. Then police set up a stakeout of sorts and pulled over 76-year-old Larry Pope.
As it turns out, Cheryl Patton, also 76, used to work with Pope at Fisher Bus Service in Hamburg and described him as a "nemesis" because of issues involving her role as a union officer. "I found it very hard to believe that someone I knew would do something like that, especially at his age," she tells the News. Her husband says he is "flabbergasted." Pope has been charged with second-degree harassment and depositing trash on a highway, per the Hamburg Sun. He hung up on a News reporter when asked for comment. Lake View is about 15 miles south of Buffalo, on Lake Erie. on this site, you agr
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Maybe even very bad.
I'd look into unsolved in the region, to be honest. This is pathological behavior.
Demovictory9
(32,423 posts)Quemado
(1,262 posts)where Donnie and Allison jackhammered their garage floor, buried Dr. Leekie, and filled the hole in with cement.
hedda_foil
(16,371 posts)dalton99a
(81,404 posts)smb
(3,471 posts)Lord Vetinari called me in and he said to me, "A man who would do something like that to a dog is a man to whom the law should pay close attention. Search his house immediately." The man was hanged a week later, not for the dog, although for my part I wouldn't have shed a tear if he had been, but for what we found in his cellar.
--Terry Pratchett
wcollar
(176 posts)Quoting Terry Pratchett.
I had the same thought when I read the story.
Celerity
(43,120 posts)Terry Pratchett, Jingo (Discworld, #21; City Watch, #4)
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)joetheman
(1,450 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)luv2fly
(2,475 posts)Those two things are weird enough by themselves.
Tree Lady
(11,427 posts)After a few weeks I would set up a camera myself, if that didn't work I would wait by the window every night until I saw them. And why did they save it? Thinking they wanted a bunch of evidence to turn the person in? Makes me wonder.
Demovictory9
(32,423 posts)Tree Lady
(11,427 posts)And my husband in his 70's is like a hawk knowing everything in our court. The young couples say they like knowing it is like neighborhood watch.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)... around here. Lol!
She must be looking out of her windows most of the day! She's better than any guard dog, especially since she can talk.
AllaN01Bear
(18,002 posts)also getting the plate helped so that the police could run a 27 28 wants warrents call.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)JI7
(89,240 posts)but started saving it because it seemed weird .
The article says it was neighbors that helped with tracking down who did it. They might have just recently told the neighbors and maybe earlier on suspected it could neighbors doing it so didn't say anything.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)I bet Pope's family has some nightmares to share about him, if asked.
Years ago, I was surprised to see "vengeance" as one of the 16 basic desires for SOME people according to an Ohio State professor:
New Theory Of Motivation Lists 16 Basic Desires That Guide Us
https://news.osu.edu/new-theory-of-motivation-lists-16-basic-desires-that-guide-us/
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After conducting studies involving more than 6,000 people, Reiss has found that 16 basic desires guide nearly all meaningful behavior. The desires are power, independence, curiosity, acceptance, order, saving, honor, idealism, social contact, family, status, vengeance, romance, eating, physical exercise, and tranquility.
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But I've since learned it indeed seems to be a primary motivator for some people, like this Pope guy and Donald Trump.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)Despite how sex and romance seem like two very different things to me, based on observations.
Blue Owl
(50,271 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)but...too lazy and unfocused to keep something like this going for years.
ToxMarz
(2,162 posts)MuseRider
(34,095 posts)that is true commitment. Whatever he is angry about he does not have the ability to get over it. Good grief, that is truly frightening. So happy paper cups satisfied his itch.
UTUSN
(70,649 posts)path along other properties. He walks a lot, hunched over, puffing and dropping butts. Exercise, breathes.
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
I would catch him and tell him to stop it and pick it up. He would just look at me and walk off, leaving the poo.
Well, one day I stepped in it and was pissed off. I had two black labs, and collected his dog's dumps along with mine for over a month.
I pulled up to his house, he and his kid were outside. I sprinkled the poop in front of his mailbox and all over the threshold of his driveway.
That guy would walk by every now and then, but never stopped at my house again.
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It turned out to the the same house we reported to the police for their son stealing a package from our mailbox.
He was an retired police officer. Nothing ever happened to the theft complaint.
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UTUSN
(70,649 posts)ecstatic
(32,653 posts)Luciferous
(6,078 posts)dog's poop and took it over there and told them I would just start dumping it in their yard if they didn't clean up after their dog. They stopped letting their dog in my yard after that lol
bucolic_frolic
(43,060 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,371 posts)Crazies gotta be crazy.
zaj
(3,433 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)Quemado
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zaj
(3,433 posts)If this were happening to me, I would laugh and respect the person's sheer determination and grit. Many others would quit years earlier.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)that two people of like determination are the antagonists?
Saving all of those cups...and making index cards...tenacity equaling that of the offender (the latter, of course, is in the wrong, I'm just pointing out that he met his match).
Yin and yang.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Looking forward to seeing the movie.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)This is not good press for them.
Its not their fault, but the cups have their name on them.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)It is hilarious you think it is. They've done nothing wrong here. Same if it was Starbucks, Dunkin, Peet's, Tim's, or the local 7-11.