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Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:54 PM Apr 2021

Driver Tossed Coffee Cups on Their Lawn for 3 Years , 76 with grudge arrested

The odd case of the Lake View litterbug started three years ago. Someone driving past a home on Versailles Road in the dark of night slowed down to fling a used McDonald's coffee cup onto the edge of a front lawn before pulling away.

The driver did it over and over again, nearly every day since then, throwing one or two coffee cups, sometimes with soggy cigarette butts inside, out the window and onto the property of Edward and Cheryl Patton. The couple eventually filled 10 garbage bags with more than 300 of these coffee cups.

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Earlier this month, some neighbors agreed to help the Pattons find out. They set up a stakeout and jotted down the license plate, which the Pattons shared with Hamburg police.

Officers set their own trap and, that night, pulled over a 76-year-old man moments after he deposited more trash at the Pattons' home.

The couple say they were shocked to learn his identity: The man cited for harassment was Cheryl Patton's former co-worker, Larry Pope, and, she told police, he had resented her for years.

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/someone-tossed-used-coffee-cups-onto-a-lake-view-lawn-for-three-years-until-police/article_91971dbc-9eb7-11eb-b6a6-2fcd1bceef1d.html


Edward Patton collected a year or two worth of coffee cups that were thrown on his lawn. He also has index cards keeping track of what happened.


https://www.newser.com/story/305074/neighbors-help-crack-3-year-long-coffee-cup-caper.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_top

The first one must have seemed like a minor annoyance. Somebody tossed an empty coffee cup from McDonald's on the lawn of Edward and Cheryl Patton of Lake View, NY. But as the Buffalo News explains, the minor nuisance became an almost daily occurrence over the next three years. The same vehicle would drive by, usually after sunset, and toss a cup on the lawn, sometimes with a cigarette butt or two inside. Edward Patton, 80, set up security cameras and bought binoculars, but he could never get the license plate or a clear view of the driver. Finally, neighbors spotted the SUV in the act, followed, and got a plate number. Then police set up a stakeout of sorts and pulled over 76-year-old Larry Pope.

As it turns out, Cheryl Patton, also 76, used to work with Pope at Fisher Bus Service in Hamburg and described him as a "nemesis" because of issues involving her role as a union officer. "I found it very hard to believe that someone I knew would do something like that, especially at his age," she tells the News. Her husband says he is "flabbergasted." Pope has been charged with second-degree harassment and depositing trash on a highway, per the Hamburg Sun. He hung up on a News reporter when asked for comment. Lake View is about 15 miles south of Buffalo, on Lake Erie. on this site, you agr

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Driver Tossed Coffee Cups on Their Lawn for 3 Years , 76 with grudge arrested (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2021 OP
This guy has done other bad things in his life greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #1
check his garden for freshly dug up areas? Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #3
Reminds me of an Orphan Black episode Quemado Apr 2021 #22
Thanks for reminding me of one of my very favorite episodes of my all time favorite show!! hedda_foil Apr 2021 #37
+1. He should be investigated. dalton99a Apr 2021 #4
I Am Reminded Of This Quote smb Apr 2021 #18
You can't go wrong wcollar Apr 2021 #21
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest Celerity Apr 2021 #41
What an asshole. dalton99a Apr 2021 #2
Serious grudge soothsayer Apr 2021 #5
She must have rebuffed him and he couldn't take it. nt joetheman Apr 2021 #19
They let it go on for 3 yrs? HipChick Apr 2021 #6
Right, and saved all the cups? luv2fly Apr 2021 #9
Thats what I was thinking Tree Lady Apr 2021 #10
they are 80 years old... probably not as tech savvy. maybe don't have the energy to sit up all Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #11
I guess I missed their age I was thing 70's Tree Lady Apr 2021 #12
The old woman living next to me sees EVERYTHING... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #30
evidince AllaN01Bear Apr 2021 #32
Honestly, how would they handle a real problem? questionseverything Apr 2021 #38
I'm guessing they might have thrown it away the first few times JI7 Apr 2021 #42
What a vengeful a-hole! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #7
No sex? panader0 Apr 2021 #14
Lol, good point! Maybe that's under "romance"? Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #15
Sounds like something a Trump would do Blue Owl Apr 2021 #8
In principle not fooled Apr 2021 #16
Definitely something a Trump voter would do ToxMarz Apr 2021 #23
Commitment MuseRider Apr 2021 #13
25 years, a dude from 3 houses down drops cigarette butts walking past my house, but also all his UTUSN Apr 2021 #17
Once a guy had his dog crap on my lawn and leave it. It ended after the dog dumped by my mailbox. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #33
I bow & hat tip to you. What can I say, even my dog runs from cats after he annoys them!1 UTUSN Apr 2021 #35
Holy crap! Nt ecstatic Apr 2021 #39
I did something similar when we lived in our old house, except I just bagged up their Luciferous Apr 2021 #45
Nice harrassment case she's got bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #20
Better used coffee cups than gunshots from a drive by. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2021 #24
This seems quaint by today's standards for bad behavior zaj Apr 2021 #27
Great point! BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #31
Nice pose Quemado Apr 2021 #25
It's both frustrating and also hilarious. zaj Apr 2021 #26
And what are the odds not fooled Apr 2021 #28
This balloon knot should get the max littering fine for every cup. The Jungle 1 Apr 2021 #29
Serious dedication all the way around on this one. fescuerescue Apr 2021 #34
I wonder if McDonalds will do something for the Pattons. roamer65 Apr 2021 #36
This is not bad press for McDonald's obamanut2012 Apr 2021 #43
All here seem to be missing this point - the perp worked in an anti-union capacity for the company pecosbob Apr 2021 #40
I noticed that point. And why a long retired guy would be still angry yrs later Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #44
He clearly needs to find a better use of his time. Luciferous Apr 2021 #46
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
1. This guy has done other bad things in his life
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 12:59 PM
Apr 2021

Maybe even very bad.

I'd look into unsolved in the region, to be honest. This is pathological behavior.

Quemado

(1,262 posts)
22. Reminds me of an Orphan Black episode
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 03:13 PM
Apr 2021

where Donnie and Allison jackhammered their garage floor, buried Dr. Leekie, and filled the hole in with cement.

smb

(3,471 posts)
18. I Am Reminded Of This Quote
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 02:32 PM
Apr 2021
Lord Vetinari called me in and he said to me, "A man who would do something like that to a dog is a man to whom the law should pay close attention. Search his house immediately." The man was hanged a week later, not for the dog, although for my part I wouldn't have shed a tear if he had been, but for what we found in his cellar.
--Terry Pratchett

Celerity

(43,120 posts)
41. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:49 AM
Apr 2021
of his life.

Terry Pratchett, Jingo (Discworld, #21; City Watch, #4)

Tree Lady

(11,427 posts)
10. Thats what I was thinking
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:25 PM
Apr 2021

After a few weeks I would set up a camera myself, if that didn't work I would wait by the window every night until I saw them. And why did they save it? Thinking they wanted a bunch of evidence to turn the person in? Makes me wonder.

Tree Lady

(11,427 posts)
12. I guess I missed their age I was thing 70's
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:39 PM
Apr 2021

And my husband in his 70's is like a hawk knowing everything in our court. The young couples say they like knowing it is like neighborhood watch.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
30. The old woman living next to me sees EVERYTHING...
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 03:29 PM
Apr 2021

... around here. Lol!

She must be looking out of her windows most of the day! She's better than any guard dog, especially since she can talk.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
42. I'm guessing they might have thrown it away the first few times
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 05:55 AM
Apr 2021

but started saving it because it seemed weird .

The article says it was neighbors that helped with tracking down who did it. They might have just recently told the neighbors and maybe earlier on suspected it could neighbors doing it so didn't say anything.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
7. What a vengeful a-hole!
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:11 PM
Apr 2021

I bet Pope's family has some nightmares to share about him, if asked.

Years ago, I was surprised to see "vengeance" as one of the 16 basic desires for SOME people according to an Ohio State professor:

New Theory Of Motivation Lists 16 Basic Desires That Guide Us
https://news.osu.edu/new-theory-of-motivation-lists-16-basic-desires-that-guide-us/
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After conducting studies involving more than 6,000 people, Reiss has found that 16 basic desires guide nearly all meaningful behavior. The desires are power, independence, curiosity, acceptance, order, saving, honor, idealism, social contact, family, status, vengeance, romance, eating, physical exercise, and tranquility.
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But I've since learned it indeed seems to be a primary motivator for some people, like this Pope guy and Donald Trump.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
15. Lol, good point! Maybe that's under "romance"?
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:47 PM
Apr 2021

Despite how sex and romance seem like two very different things to me, based on observations.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
13. Commitment
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:39 PM
Apr 2021

that is true commitment. Whatever he is angry about he does not have the ability to get over it. Good grief, that is truly frightening. So happy paper cups satisfied his itch.

UTUSN

(70,649 posts)
17. 25 years, a dude from 3 houses down drops cigarette butts walking past my house, but also all his
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 02:26 PM
Apr 2021

path along other properties. He walks a lot, hunched over, puffing and dropping butts. Exercise, breathes.






TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
33. Once a guy had his dog crap on my lawn and leave it. It ended after the dog dumped by my mailbox.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 03:39 PM
Apr 2021

.

I would catch him and tell him to stop it and pick it up. He would just look at me and walk off, leaving the poo.
Well, one day I stepped in it and was pissed off. I had two black labs, and collected his dog's dumps along with mine for over a month.
I pulled up to his house, he and his kid were outside. I sprinkled the poop in front of his mailbox and all over the threshold of his driveway.

That guy would walk by every now and then, but never stopped at my house again.


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It turned out to the the same house we reported to the police for their son stealing a package from our mailbox.

He was an retired police officer. Nothing ever happened to the theft complaint.

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Luciferous

(6,078 posts)
45. I did something similar when we lived in our old house, except I just bagged up their
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 08:26 AM
Apr 2021

dog's poop and took it over there and told them I would just start dumping it in their yard if they didn't clean up after their dog. They stopped letting their dog in my yard after that lol

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
26. It's both frustrating and also hilarious.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 03:19 PM
Apr 2021

If this were happening to me, I would laugh and respect the person's sheer determination and grit. Many others would quit years earlier.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
28. And what are the odds
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 03:23 PM
Apr 2021

that two people of like determination are the antagonists?

Saving all of those cups...and making index cards...tenacity equaling that of the offender (the latter, of course, is in the wrong, I'm just pointing out that he met his match).

Yin and yang.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
36. I wonder if McDonalds will do something for the Pattons.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 03:57 PM
Apr 2021

This is not good press for them.

It’s not their fault, but the cups have their name on them.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
43. This is not bad press for McDonald's
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 07:44 AM
Apr 2021

It is hilarious you think it is. They've done nothing wrong here. Same if it was Starbucks, Dunkin, Peet's, Tim's, or the local 7-11.

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