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Judge blocks release of bodycam footage of Andrew Brown's killing. Cites deputies' safety (Original Post) StarfishSaver Apr 2021 OP
This tells us a great deal LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #1
What does that tell us? Ocelot II Apr 2021 #2
But apparently hiding a skunk makes the air sweet Midnightwalk Apr 2021 #3
Womble also said that Brown hit deputies with his car twice madville Apr 2021 #18
They've said your body spasming as they choke you to death Midnightwalk Apr 2021 #19
Don't know about NC law, but purpose of Cams is to protect citizens & police. Should be released. Hoyt Apr 2021 #4
The piggies just admitted their guilt. Dawson Leery Apr 2021 #5
This is a direct result of our gerrymandered general assembly dsc Apr 2021 #6
That says it all, Brown was killed unnecessarily JohnSJ Apr 2021 #7
Killed? Nope...he was executed...murdered... HipChick Apr 2021 #15
The street cam video already released clearly showed the SWAT team arriving at Brown's home, sop Apr 2021 #8
Exactly. We need to stop gldstwmn Apr 2021 #11
This should go over well. spanone Apr 2021 #9
This is going to get ugly. gldstwmn Apr 2021 #10
"Cites deputies' safety." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #12
Let's hope it doesn't get Daniel Shaver'd. joshcryer Apr 2021 #13
Shaver was begging his life exboyfil Apr 2021 #16
The prosecution in that case intentionally flubbed it. joshcryer Apr 2021 #20
I'm sure there might be some reason I'm not thinking of ok_cpu Apr 2021 #14
It May Be That The Video Is Evidence? ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #17
Makes sense. Thanks. n/t ok_cpu Apr 2021 #22
I wonder if a little back dating of an arrest warrant is going on exboyfil Apr 2021 #21

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
3. But apparently hiding a skunk makes the air sweet
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 01:08 PM
Apr 2021
Womble said, “You cannot swing a skunk in front of a group of people and ask them not to smell it.”


Womble is the da saying it’s brown’s fault.

This is messed up

madville

(7,408 posts)
18. Womble also said that Brown hit deputies with his car twice
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 03:27 PM
Apr 2021

Before they opened fire.

Sounds like he is already setting up the reason it will be considered justifiable. They generally consider a vehicle a deadly weapon when heading towards or coming into contact with an officer.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
19. They've said your body spasming as they choke you to death
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 03:52 PM
Apr 2021

Means you are resisting and should continue to be choked in a recent case elsewhere.

I’m not putting a lot of credence into their justified. Police and their da’s have destroyed their credibility with me.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Don't know about NC law, but purpose of Cams is to protect citizens & police. Should be released.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 01:08 PM
Apr 2021
Quote from this article gives me some hope that charges will be brought. And, of course, FBI is investigating.

"Womble [the District Attorney] would then want to have the footage released in open court at a jury trial after charges have been brought. If no charges are brought, he said he would release the video at a press conference where he explains that decision."

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article250998794.html

dsc

(52,160 posts)
6. This is a direct result of our gerrymandered general assembly
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 01:14 PM
Apr 2021

they passed a law making this possible by permitting these videos to be held back. And, being held back they are.

sop

(10,167 posts)
8. The street cam video already released clearly showed the SWAT team arriving at Brown's home,
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 01:31 PM
Apr 2021

speeding around the corner in an open truck with a bunch of heavily-armed cops decked out in full battle gear in the bed. It looked like war zone footage of some third-world warlord with his crew of mercenaries driving into a village to commit genocide. No wonder the authorities want to cover it up.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
13. Let's hope it doesn't get Daniel Shaver'd.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 01:45 PM
Apr 2021

They kept that camera footage hidden and they did a really shit prosecution and the guys got off. Not to mention one of the cops got PTSD pension for life for killing a man in cold blood.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
16. Shaver was begging his life
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 02:29 PM
Apr 2021

Asked to do a bunch of difficult physical actions with conflicting orders after he had some drinks (note he was in his motel room relaxing).

He got blown away pulling his pants up as he was told to crawl towards the cops. Simply disgusting.

They brought the cop back one day to get him an improved pension.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
20. The prosecution in that case intentionally flubbed it.
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 05:32 PM
Apr 2021

And the fact that they kept the video from the public eye was so that the prosecution would be able to get away with flubbing it. The reason we need to see the body cam footage is for transparency, so we can watch more closely, so the media can be in the courtroom and it's not just some random thing.

I guarantee you if Shaver's story was told, when it happened, nationally, and people were allowed to protest it, it would have gone completely differently. But because they kept it secret it was just a widow pleading for justice who no one cared about because they didn't know about it. It was just some court proceeding in a town somewhere.

ok_cpu

(2,050 posts)
14. I'm sure there might be some reason I'm not thinking of
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 01:49 PM
Apr 2021

but why aren't all of these interactions public record?

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
17. It May Be That The Video Is Evidence?
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 03:16 PM
Apr 2021

And, releasing to the public could be considered prejudicial?
Just surmising.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
21. I wonder if a little back dating of an arrest warrant is going on
Wed Apr 28, 2021, 06:17 PM
Apr 2021

The copy of the warrant obtained by CNN was marked as "not executed." In the first news conference about the shooting, Wooten said Brown was killed as deputies were attempting to execute the search warrant, but he later stated Brown was killed as deputies served an arrest warrant.

CNN has not been able to obtain the arrest warrant.

I hope the FBI keeps an eye on this. While you can detain on a search warrant, I think the law gets a little more vague.

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