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babylonsister

(171,579 posts)
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 06:01 AM Apr 2021

After Railing Against Science, Trump Wants To Be Remembered As 'The Father Of The Vaccine'

Yeabut, how many did he kill?


After Railing Against Science, Trump Wants To Be Remembered As ‘The Father Of The Vaccine’
By Zoë Richards
April 29, 2021 9:57 a.m.


Former President Donald Trump on Thursday called himself “the father of the vaccine,” and declared that his administration had saved “tens of millions of lives” in its efforts to push for the quick development of COVID-19 shots.

“They’re very ungracious people,” Trump said of the Biden administration during a Fox Business interview on Thursday morning, bemoaning what he believed was undue credit attributed to his successor for the coronavirus vaccine’s development. “I did the vaccine.”

“If I weren’t president — the vaccine — you wouldn’t have a vaccine for five years, three to five years would be the minimum,” Trump continued. “I got it done in less than nine months. And that’s only because of me.”


The comments from an embittered former president striving to claim enduring relevance in the sector of public health which he spent months undermining come on the heels of President Joe Biden on Wednesday addressing a joint session of Congress, touting his administration’s successful vaccine rollout.

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After Railing Against Science, Trump Wants To Be Remembered As 'The Father Of The Vaccine' (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2021 OP
Father of bleach drinking and multigraincracker Apr 2021 #1
Moderna vac was already made BEFORE Trump and the pandemic. Pfizer not even part of Warp speed joetheman Apr 2021 #2
He's not the father of shit. Croney Apr 2021 #3
Bad Croney canetoad May 2021 #30
Maybe he should try being a father to the kids he actually fathered. TraceNC Apr 2021 #4
He even denied Barron a puppy that was gifted to him. secondwind Apr 2021 #8
The grandparents should have taken in the puppy. Ilsa Apr 2021 #20
He wants to be "Father of the Vaccine" for a vaccine he refuses GoCubsGo Apr 2021 #5
His entire life has been dedicated to delusional self aggrandizement Siwsan Apr 2021 #6
What a pitiful, insignificant piece of humanity is secondwind Apr 2021 #7
Even your cult doesn't believe that, or they'd be lining up to get it, Dimwit Donnie. tanyev Apr 2021 #9
Trump is the father of the pandemic. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #10
What's next, a Pulitzer for his tweets? eleny Apr 2021 #11
Present him with an award. lpbk2713 Apr 2021 #12
Hold your breath until that happens, trump. (nt) Paladin Apr 2021 #13
He blinded us with science..... marmar Apr 2021 #14
More likely he killed hundreds of thousands spanone Apr 2021 #15
Father of the vacccine, killer of 500,000 tinrobot Apr 2021 #16
Remember when renowned professional idiot Geraldo Rivera said the vax should be called "The Trump" BannonsLiver Apr 2021 #17
More like the Trump virus Chainfire Apr 2021 #18
100,000 people DEAD when he announced "Warp Speed" 5 months AFTER Hortensis Apr 2021 #19
No one would have ever thought of working on a vaccine if not Chainfire Apr 2021 #21
Yet Another Attempt At Another BIG LIE WHITT Apr 2021 #22
First vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer) shipped in mid-December. n/t OnlinePoker Apr 2021 #24
Completely Different Metric WHITT Apr 2021 #26
So, why are you saying they "had them" in mid-January? OnlinePoker Apr 2021 #27
Eh WHITT May 2021 #29
At the CPAP he claimed that without him the vaccine might never have been developed. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2021 #23
I'm tired of his big stupid fat ego Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #25
One of the most boorish beings in the nation calls other people "very ungracious" CBHagman Apr 2021 #28
2018 disbands White House pandemic response team struggle4progress May 2021 #31

TraceNC

(254 posts)
4. Maybe he should try being a father to the kids he actually fathered.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 06:32 AM
Apr 2021

I can’t be the only one who thought it was weird that we never once saw him take Barron anywhere. No baseball games, no golf outings, didn’t take him to the football games he attended, no involvement in the kid’s school activities, nothing. Just odd. But I guess Barron is better off having as little contact with his dad as possible.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
8. He even denied Barron a puppy that was gifted to him.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:03 AM
Apr 2021


The kid was 12 yrs old, and he bawled his eyes out.
His mother isn’t a model of motherhood either. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is a budding psychopath.

Ilsa

(62,225 posts)
20. The grandparents should have taken in the puppy.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:16 AM
Apr 2021

Didn't they have the kid most of the time because they were closer to his private school?

GoCubsGo

(32,961 posts)
5. He wants to be "Father of the Vaccine" for a vaccine he refuses
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 06:41 AM
Apr 2021

to even encourage his cult followers to take? Yeah, sure. We'll get on that right away, you syphilis-addled dumbass.

Siwsan

(27,264 posts)
6. His entire life has been dedicated to delusional self aggrandizement
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 06:57 AM
Apr 2021

And he'll twist any situation into a double pretzel shape, to do it.

spanone

(137,512 posts)
15. More likely he killed hundreds of thousands
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:09 AM
Apr 2021

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tinrobot

(11,474 posts)
16. Father of the vacccine, killer of 500,000
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:13 AM
Apr 2021

If he wants to take credit, he really needs to take full credit.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
18. More like the Trump virus
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:08 AM
Apr 2021

He did everything in his power to insure the rampant spread of the disease during it's debut in America.

I just don't want to give him credit for the hundreds of hours he spent toiling tirelessly in the labs. It may be a liberal thing.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. 100,000 people DEAD when he announced "Warp Speed" 5 months AFTER
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:14 AM
Apr 2021

he knew. Drug companies were already at work on vaccines, with hundreds of thousands more expected to die, possibly millions, and he was begged to finally allow our government to assist.

He and the Republicans who also blocked containment, mitigation and treatment, created a holocaust. This is their credit: Party of the Holocaust.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
21. No one would have ever thought of working on a vaccine if not
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:37 PM
Apr 2021

for the great and powerful Oz, I mean Trump. It was brilliant insight and leadership for Trump to propose working on a cure. Lets put the credit where the credit is due. His greatest contribution to the treatment of Covid was to assure everyone that it was a Democratic hoax that could be treated by common household cleaning products. Trump is insane as so is his cult.

Pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
22. Yet Another Attempt At Another BIG LIE
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:47 PM
Apr 2021

Just for future reference:

* China had the vaccine prior to Jan 11th, when they posted the entire 30,000 character genome code online.

* Moderna had the vaccine on Jan 13th.

* A representative from BioNTech told the BBC they had the vaccine a few days later. Call it Jan 15th-16th. They partnered with Pfizer for manufacturing. (Plus they were never part of O.W.S.)

* AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson both basically ripped the gutz out of an innocuous virus and added the business end of a dead covid virus, which is why they have less effectiveness. AstraZeneca had been working on a generic vaccine for years.

Of course, 'Operation Warp Speed' wasn't created until May 15th.

OnlinePoker

(5,830 posts)
27. So, why are you saying they "had them" in mid-January?
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:33 PM
Apr 2021

By inauguration day, around 15 million had been vaccinated and there were well over a million a day getting their shots.

23. At the CPAP he claimed that without him the vaccine might never have been developed.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 02:46 PM
Apr 2021

He is implying that without Operation Warp Speed (he doesn't have a clue what "warp" means, only that it sounds cool, like "Space Force" ) there would have never been a vaccine. Without a vaccine everyone would die from Covid-19 -- which his racist mind still calls the Chy-na Virus -- so ipso facto, he deserves sole credit for saving the world.

BTW, Pfizer was working on a vaccine without government assistance; I'm not sure about Moderna. The CEOs of both companies blew off an invitation to the WH for a photo-op with the father of the vaccine.

Let's see how long it takes for the RW media echo chamber to begin using the "father of the vaccine" meme. It took exactly three days after Osama Bin Laden was killed for them to dig up a former member of Seal Team Six to complain about Obama taking credit for the operation, which he never did.

CBHagman

(17,134 posts)
28. One of the most boorish beings in the nation calls other people "very ungracious"
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:41 PM
Apr 2021

And someone who is and was a foe of science takes credit for the work other people were already doing before he darkened the doorway of the Oval Office.

https://www.statnews.com/2021/01/05/basic-research-paved-way-for-warp-speed-covid-19-vaccines/

The speed at which these vaccines has been developed is remarkable, both in absolute terms and compared to the multiyear time frame it normally takes to create and approve new vaccines. Great credit is due to the pharmaceutical industry and the university and government scientists who have worked directly and diligently on Covid-19 vaccine programs in the U.S., Europe, and elsewhere. They deserve accolades for their skillful hard work.

But the Covid-19 vaccines did not come from nowhere. Decades of research by tens of thousands of scientists worldwide put in place the essential knowledge and methods that underpinned their rapid development.

In the U.S. alone, the National Institutes of Health provides approximately $4 billion dollars a year to immunology and vaccine research programs, with further substantial support from private funders such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. These multiyear, multimillion dollar investments in basic science provided the foundation from which the new vaccines rapidly emerged.

struggle4progress

(120,129 posts)
31. 2018 disbands White House pandemic response team
Sat May 1, 2021, 01:52 AM
May 2021

2019 eliminates role of CDC epidemiologist embedded in China's disease control agency
Jan 2020 "We have it totally under control"
Feb 2020 "We pretty much shut it down"
Feb 2020 "By April .. it miraculously goes away"
Feb 2020 "The Coronavirus is very much under control"
Feb 2020 "Within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero"
Feb 2020 "Very little problem"
Feb 2020 "This is like a flu"
Feb 2020 "One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear"
Mar 2020 "It's very mild"
Mar 2020 "It’ll go away"
Mar 2020 "I’m not concerned at all"
Mar 2020 "We've stopped it"
Mar 2020 "I don’t take responsibility at all"
Mar 2020 "I'm also hopeful to have Americans working again by that Easter"
Mar 2020 "We've done a great job"
Mar 2020 "I haven't seen bad"
Apr 2020 "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?"
May 2020 "This is going to go away without a vaccine"
May 2020 "Vaccine or no vaccine, we’re back"
May 2020 "We will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization"
Jun 2020 "It’s fading away"
Jun 2020 "The numbers are starting to get very good"
Jun 2020 "It's going away"
Aug 2020 "It is what it is"
Aug 2020 "Right now I think it’s under control"
Aug 2020 "We've done a great job in Covid"
Sep 2020 "We have rounded the final turn"
Sep 2020 "Open your schools everybody, open your schools"
Sep 2020 "We’re rounding the corner"
Oct 2020 "Don’t be afraid of Covid"
excerpted from: https://doggett.house.gov/media-center/blog-posts/timeline-trump-s-coronavirus-responses

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