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babylonsister

(171,024 posts)
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:14 PM Apr 2021

Michael Cohen: Rudy Giuliani Will "Absolutely" Rat Out Ivanka, Don Jr., and Trump to Save Himself

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/michael-cohen-rudy-giuliani-trump-snitching

Levin Report
Michael Cohen: Rudy Giuliani Will “Absolutely” Rat Out Ivanka, Don Jr., and Trump to Save Himself
According to his ex-lawyer, Donald Trump should be very, very afraid.
By Bess Levin
April 30, 2021


Ask Rudy Giuliani, or his son, Andrew, if the former mayor of New York City is in legal trouble at the moment, and you’ll undoubtedly get an eye-bulging, hands-flailing response that Donald Trump’s personal attorney has done nothing wrong in his life and that the only person who should be worried about his legal exposure is Hunter Biden. Obviously, that is not true at all given that (1) Giuliani’s multiyear quest to dig up dirt on the president‘s son uncovered nothing, and (2) experts say Rudy is very much in trouble. Calling Wednesday‘s raid on Giuliani‘s apartment and office an “extremely significant” escalation of the federal investigation into his Ukraine dealings, former U.S. attorney Preet Bharara said this week that there is a strong chance the former New York City mayor will be charged. At that point, prison could be in his future.

All of which makes Michael Cohen, who was once in a very similar situation, think Giuliani is “absolutely” going to turn on Trump to save himself. Appearing on CNN on Thursday, the ex-president’s former “fixer,” who was sentenced to three years in prison after pleading guilty to tax evasion and campaign-finance violations, predicted that Rudy is sweating profusely at the moment, and despite whatever he and his son claim, knows that he’s in trouble. Why? For starters, he ran the Southern District of New York, which is currently investigating him, from 1983 to 1989 and knows what kind of power it holds. “There’s no doubt that he’s nervous…. And it’s rightfully so that he’s nervous, because he knows the power of the SDNY is unlimited, and they use that power,” Cohen told Alisyn Camerota. Noting that Giuliani likely “has no interest in going to prison and spending the golden years of his life behind bars,” Cohen said, “Do I think Rudy will give up Donald in a heartbeat? Absolutely. He certainly doesn’t want to follow my path down into a 36-month sentence.”

Which, of course, would be an unfortunate turn of events for the ex-president who is already facing all kinds of legal trouble, not to mention potentially bad news for his children. “What’s ironic here,” Cohen told Camerota, “is the fact that these tactics of the Southern District of New York, in terms of bullying you into a plea deal, were created by Rudy Giuliani going back 30 years ago. And it’s just ironic that the tactics that he created for that office are now going to be employed against him, in terms of making him plead guilty and, certainly, at the least, turning over information about Jared, Ivanka, about Don Jr., about Donald himself, about all of these individuals in that garbage can orbit of Donald Trump.” He added that one cannot even imagine the trove of shadiness the Feds may uncover as a result of seizing Giuliani‘s electronic devices:

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Asked if he thinks Donald Trump is scared about what may come out of the Rudy situation, Cohen said there was no question the ex-president is currently soiling himself. “He was afraid even when they raided my home and my law office,” Cohen said. “Because Donald Trump cares about only one person, and I say it all the time. He cares about only himself. So, he doesn’t care that they raided Rudy’s home. He doesn’t care that they raided Rudy’s law office. What is it going to do to affect me, is all that he’s thinking right now. What did stupid Rudy do? What did stupid Rudy write? What sort of text messages or emails? What sort of stupid things was Rudy up to that’s now going to implicate me? Because Donald knows he has enough trouble right now between Tish James and the attorney general’s office, as well as Cy Vance and the district attorney’s office here in New York…. He knows that he has all sorts of legal issues. He didn’t need more. That’s one thing I can assure you. He definitely didn’t need more. And Rudy is going to be, you know, a treasure trove. In all fairness, Merrick Garland is like Santa Claus, and Rudy’s devices are going to be like the presents that are waiting for you on Christmas day…. And what do I think? I think Rudy knows that he has trouble. I think Donald understands that Rudy will provide whatever information that he has to the SDNY.“

Asked if he thought his dad would, indeed, throw Trump under the bus to save himself, Andrew Giuliani gave a…not entirely convincing answer before changing the subject to—you guessed it—Hunter Biden.
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Michael Cohen: Rudy Giuliani Will "Absolutely" Rat Out Ivanka, Don Jr., and Trump to Save Himself (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2021 OP
One can hope..he certainly would know where the bodies are buried PortTack Apr 2021 #1
Hopefully the idiot can remember where they are buried... MLAA Apr 2021 #12
I would have to agree with Cohen. Guiliani is such a slimeball. I can't imagine he would sacrifice FlyingPiggy Apr 2021 #2
Obvious, isn't it. triron Apr 2021 #21
This would be quite true for a normal person, but Rudy seems to have walked off a cliff... TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #3
Great if ghouli flips. Cohen has had number of good calls. empedocles Apr 2021 #4
Being the ultimate authoritarian is all he knows. Boomerproud Apr 2021 #9
Good,.... magicarpet Apr 2021 #5
I've been waiting 30+ years for this . . . . . no_hypocrisy Apr 2021 #6
Well, he was a horrid Mayor for many of us in NYC... electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #10
I hated him before he was Mayor. (Disclaimer: I live in NJ) no_hypocrisy Apr 2021 #11
One must be very careful of what one wishes for. Aristus Apr 2021 #7
His golden years came and went about 20 years ago n/t hibbing Apr 2021 #8
Thinking the same thing Roy Rolling Apr 2021 #13
Sometimes it's like the whole crime organization is waiting for the first key player to die NotASurfer Apr 2021 #14
Trump demands absolute loyalty but is only loyal to family. keithbvadu2 Apr 2021 #15
Ask his niece if that is true. tavernier Apr 2021 #18
Even if you *are* blood, he'll turn on you. SeattleVet Apr 2021 #19
Beyond ivanka . . . not so sure empedocles May 2021 #23
I hope he is right, but Cohen is not the most credible person. nt Gore1FL Apr 2021 #16
He has seen some religion. He was abused and is now making amends and is rightly pissed. nt Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #17
I can imagine the TP-Treasonous Psycho Cha Apr 2021 #20
TY empedocles May 2021 #22

MLAA

(17,233 posts)
12. Hopefully the idiot can remember where they are buried...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:21 PM
Apr 2021

He’s been so stupid these last many years he probably drew a map of their locations and it’s sitting in his email draft file 😬

FlyingPiggy

(3,376 posts)
2. I would have to agree with Cohen. Guiliani is such a slimeball. I can't imagine he would sacrifice
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:24 PM
Apr 2021

himself. Ever. None of those people would. What would be interesting is if he takes down Ivanka, Jared and Jr. What would the former one do? Would he actually turn himself in to save his kids? I think that would be an interesting situation.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. This would be quite true for a normal person, but Rudy seems to have walked off a cliff...
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:25 PM
Apr 2021

He always was a bit clueless about certain aspects of reality, but he's completely out of it now.

His farts make more sense.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Great if ghouli flips. Cohen has had number of good calls.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:28 PM
Apr 2021

Seems like a number of others would also 'rat out' the trumps.

Saw on Nichole W. 4p show Cohen on tape. Have seen the quote before, but it hit harder this time:
[best as I remember, 'donald trump did not want to be President.
trump wanted to be dictator of the US.
When elected trump spent the next 4 years,
trying to figure out how he could make himself dictator.'

Given how much that trump drive has been evidenced, and how simple it is to understand by all.
Even stupid gaetz could understand trump's illegalities in that light.
Surprising that so many 'higher ups' can see the traitor/treason implications of interacting with trump -
it's hard to believe so many would undertake the risk?

[Suspect some flippers may be cooperating under the radar already].

Boomerproud

(7,936 posts)
9. Being the ultimate authoritarian is all he knows.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 08:32 PM
Apr 2021

Did you ever hear him call himself or his administration public servants? Never. Not in his DNA. If he didn't want to or expect to be president the least he could have done is Do No Harm. Instead he did colossal harm. Damn all of them!

no_hypocrisy

(45,998 posts)
11. I hated him before he was Mayor. (Disclaimer: I live in NJ)
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:09 PM
Apr 2021

I followed his antics as head federal prosecutor. He made Michael Milken frog march in front of newspapers and television cameras especially without his hairpiece. He loved humiliating Wall Street criminals. He reveled in prosecuting John Gotti.

I used to listen to the tirades against him by "Grandpa" Al Lewis on WBAI and Lynn Samuels on WABC (before the station went RW 24/7). Lynn would regularly refer to him as "vile" and "despicable".

Giuliani acted like he was in charge on NYC before he was mayor. Big shot.

Aristus

(66,267 posts)
7. One must be very careful of what one wishes for.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:52 PM
Apr 2021

If Merrick Garland had been appointed to the Supreme Court in the last year of President Obama's administration, and if Hillary Clinton's campaign, unencumbered by Russian-based election fraud, had succeeded in elevating her to the White House, Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump might yet be enjoying untroubled retirements.

The remainder of Trump's life will be a cautionary tale about the dangers of unintended consequences...

NotASurfer

(2,146 posts)
14. Sometimes it's like the whole crime organization is waiting for the first key player to die
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:50 PM
Apr 2021

At which point...they have a scapegoat to pin it all on. Blame the dead, they can't rat you out to save themselves

keithbvadu2

(36,626 posts)
15. Trump demands absolute loyalty but is only loyal to family.
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:01 PM
Apr 2021

Trump demands absolute loyalty but is only loyal to family.

If you are not blood, you are nothing to Donald.

Pence found that.

Cha

(296,697 posts)
20. I can imagine the TP-Treasonous Psycho
Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:48 PM
Apr 2021

hearing about what M Cohen said & throwing his Diet Coke bottles & cans against the wall or whom ever was in the way.. Absolutely Seething & Livid!

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