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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNobody on a white horse is going to save the Republicans.
They will have to save themselves.
If they are OK with lying to their supporters and the American people, then they will not survive. They will drown in their lies. They are headed for a rude awakening.
What are they going to say when the truth comes out? And it will come out. Perhaps sooner than they think?
"Oh, I had no idea!"? "I never really thought he won the election."? "Oh, we had no idea he was so close to Putin and the Russians."? "I just didn't think it rose to the level of impeachment."?
They need to look themselves in the mirror. They need to be honest with themselves.
The lies are going to be exposed. And they will be bit in the ass.
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)They're going for minority rule and constructing road blocks to their power.
ananda
(28,858 posts)This really gives me so much anxiety!
kentuck
(111,082 posts)How strong are our institutions?
ananda
(28,858 posts)It's up to the courts now, and I just don't know....
kentuck
(111,082 posts)At least, they never have been.
But everyone that knows Trump, knows he is a criminal.
ananda
(28,858 posts)The entire Trump cohort was so corrupt and murderous
it beggars belief that we could even tolerate that kind
of government and behavior for one day, much less four
years...
and we are still tolerating a bunch of criminals in Congress
and the Senate.
Our country is very broken.
That party is going full totalitarianism (Totally Tarianism if you're Trump).
DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THEM!
The people predicting their demise are missing the whole point, the GOP has said goodbye to the days when they had to stand for things voters liked. They're completely divorced from that now, the crazier they are, the more the 30% loves them and that 30% they think is enough for them to have absolute power in this country.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)kentuck
(111,082 posts)And they seem to be waiting for something like that to happen?
But, it cannot happen this time. They are going to have to save themselves. Nobody is going to save them.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Towlie
(5,324 posts)
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Your prophesies won't just happen because of some universal karma that you imagine. They have an edge due to their lack of ethics and it'll require considerable effort to overcome that.
kentuck
(111,082 posts)But I don't know that you have the power to predict my "prophesies"?
"Nobody on a white horse is going to save us from the Republicans either. "
Our institutions will do what they do, as best as they can, given the circumstances. But it is up to democrats (note the small "d" ), and Democrats, to prepare and be ready to save Democracy and ourselves.
To me that means opposing/stopping Fascists and Nazis in any and every way possible whenever and wherever they rear their ugliness. And since the limitations and weaknesses of our institutions have been clearly illuminated for us in the last 4 - 5 years, we must be ready to do what needs to be done when exploitation of those weaknesses and limitations sidelines said institutions.
Always keep in mind that the CONservatives/Republicans always, ALWAYS, project their failings, criminality, and illegal/unconstitutional/evil plans onto their opponents. Knowing that, we have a clear blueprint showing us what they plan to do and how they plan to do it.
Working to rebuild and strengthen our institutions is a top priority. Second on the list is insuring that democrats and concerned citizens are educated on the subject of what the CONS are planning and how they plan on executing those plans, and cultivating a vigilant awareness of what that looks like at every level of society/civilization. Some will disagree, but to me that also means that people should be armed and trained. I know this raises a risk that democrats become what we see in the R's now, but certainly there are intelligent people at work figuring out how to prevent that from happening....maybe issue monthly rations of top-shelf marijuana?
THat's all I got. Still working on my first cup of coffee today.....
hibbing
(10,098 posts)70% think the former guy won, they control the vast majority of state houses, they aren't going anywhere in my lifetime, I wish I was wrong
Peace
marble falls
(57,079 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)And several million morons who agree with him.
SWBTATTReg
(22,114 posts)they are failing miserably. I think mainly because of two reasons, one, this is Pres. Biden we're talking about. A no-nonsense type of guy, you can't really pin anything on him because he's been GREAT!
The 2nd reason is that they're called 'FIRE' so times that no one is listening to them (repugs) anymore and the repugs have lost all respect. Witness the constant shrinking of the GOP as a % of all Americans.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)Same with Democrats and independents, regarding a hero on a white horse "saving" them. It's up to each of us to live our lives in a meaningful way.
"There ain't no Jesus gonna come from the sky...." -- John Lennon, I found Out.
I agree, of course, that the republican party is in deep shit.
Midnight Writer
(21,751 posts)Anecdotally, I know a lot of Republicans, and I don't know any, including Wall Street Republicans, who will change their votes.
Democrats just got their asses kicked yesterday in a special election in Texas where Democrats were predicted to have a shot.
Look out in 2022.
I hope I am wrong, but midterms usually mean low turnout, and low turnout means victory for Republicans.
lame54
(35,287 posts)May have something else to say about this
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)on the face of it do they need saving? If the goal of a political party is to win elections and weild power then GOP is doing fine.
KG
(28,751 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)But we're still waiting, aren't we.
But for how long? DAYUM, this syndrome never seems to come to an end or get any comeuppance. It just seems to be gathering momentum and getting worse.
Nexus2
(1,261 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Many years of listening to Limbaugh and his ilk, watching Fox News and reading Murdoch and other fascist rags, christo-fascist cult indoctrination, and fascist peer pressure validation, has blocked their ability to perceive fact and reality. They don't care about what is true, because they can no longer distinguish between truth and lies, or separate fact from fiction.
We are going to have to remain vigilant and united, and expand our numbers, in order to try to ensure that the psychotic QOP is quarantined from power to the extent that they cannot achieve their dream creating an of authoritarian christo-fascist dictatorship, with the Supreme Liar appointed as dictator for life, in the US.
74 million people voting for this destructive malicious narcissistic fascist sociopath in 2020 should scare the daylights out of all reasonable people. If we don't keep them out of power, we will end up living in a real life version of The Handmaid's Tale.
DFW
(54,369 posts)They have Fox News, all the money they will ever need, and are not burdened by benevolence, conscience, honesty or scruples.
With advantages like those, they are no danger of extinction. We are the ones in need of protection.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)and push back against them strongly enough.