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Some people are too afraid to speak it. Some are too afraid to even think it.
It is so much easier to simply ignore. Especially for those in positions to do something about it.
What is the truth about January 6th? Were all those people that have been arrested independent actors? What is the truth about sedition and incitement to insurrection? Where do the charges stop? Can we get a mulligan on this one?
What is the truth about Russian interference in our elections of 2016 and 2020? Can we really handle the truth? Who, besides Paul Manafort, was in collusion with Russian intelligence? And why? Do we really want to know?
Do we really want to know about all the money-laundering? How many politicians have money in off-shore accounts? Can we just sweep this question under the rug?
How much money was stolen from the US Treasury in the last 4 years? Do we even have an idea? Did Mnuchin ever account for the $400 billion he had set aside? Does anyone care?
How about all the bribes and threats and obstructions of justice? Are those no longer crimes? How about threatening elected officials to find votes or else? Is that even worth bringing up?
Are there lines that our Justice Department are afraid to cross? Or are all these imagined crimes just figments of our imagination?
Joinfortmill
(14,416 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... Mueller didn't tell congress quick fast I can't give any of these fuckers with an R in front of their names the benefit of the doubt.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)There is clearly nothing too audacious to attempt to get past a credulous, dozing electorate.
Takket
(21,558 posts)i don't think there are any lines they are worried about crossing, but since Barr spent his term covering up the crimes, Garland is basically starting from square 1. and if it takes 100 pieces of evidence to put you or I away for a crime, it is going to take 100,000 pieces to get drumpf locked away.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)wnylib
(21,429 posts)really scarey how much deep shit we are in.
And there is so much more that we political junkies do not know. Much more that the general public does not know because they are not politically oriented enough to follow it.
But I am confident that Biden, his advisors, his DOJ, and many others have a very clear picture of what we are dealing with. They are working to clean up the mess and restore and preserve democracy. We who are aware need to support them and do whatever we can to help in getting good people elected and waking people up from their complacency.
Jan 6 should have awakened the complacent ones. I hate to think what other events it would take to make them face an unpleasant reality, but I think more people are becoming more aware.
Warpy
(111,245 posts)How about we start naming the major players who funded the whole thing? Ginni Thomas is one, but not the only one.
How about we start naming all the people on the inside of our government who helped plan and facilitate the whole thing?
What's it going to take to speak truth not only to power, but to our enemies who hold considerable amounts of it?
People who want to prevent any sort of unrest by letting everybody but the dumbasses who did the actual deeds skate are the biggest problem we're facing right now. They get away with it this time, they'll do it again.
usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)MoscowMitch will rue the day he stood in the way of Merrick Garland taking a SCOTUS seat. In that seat, he could only have an impact on the cases that make it to the court.
His current seat has all the freedom to open a legal unlimited investigation that he can implement and oversee.
He could start at "home" looking at Bill Barr's bending results and out and out lying to protect 45.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,788 posts)We all know this goes pretty deep and very high.
Does America have the stomach to charge a former President with a crime like this.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)I think the corruption is deep and just as terrible and treacherous as you have mentioned, plus more.
I want to see T***p and Company, above all, to be hunted down and brought to justice because he, the corrupt POS he is, had the gall to seek and assume the sacred job of President.
Grasswire2
(13,566 posts)I remember that Barbara Ledeen was one of the people tasked with handing out cash in Iraq. None of that was every adjudicated.