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sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
Tue May 18, 2021, 11:25 AM May 2021

District Attorney says deputies who fatally shot Andrew Brown Jr. were justified

District Attorney says deputies who fatally shot Andrew Brown Jr. were justified

District Attorney Andrew Womble said Tuesday that the deputies who fatally shot Andrew Brown Jr. last month were justified in using deadly force, citing a North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation probe.

Womble said the shooting, "while tragic, was justified because Mr. Brown's actions caused three deputies to reasonably believe it was necessary to use deadly force to protect themselves and others."

Brown, a 42-year-old Black man, was fatally shot by Pasquotank County sheriff's deputies in Elizabeth City on April 21 when they attempted to serve him with an arrest warrant, according to the sheriff's office.

A source with knowledge told CNN that the Brown family has not received any advanced information on the findings.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/18/us/andrew-brown-jr-press-conference/index.html
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District Attorney says deputies who fatally shot Andrew Brown Jr. were justified (Original Post) sarisataka May 2021 OP
The justification to shoot him in the back of the head is scant at best seeing there wasn't uponit7771 May 2021 #1
Utterly unsurprising. WhiskeyGrinder May 2021 #2
Agree with your first sentence. Absolutely. Treefrog May 2021 #10
Whole video still is not being shown, we don't know when the LEOs started shooting uponit7771 May 2021 #3
I have predicted this summer sarisataka May 2021 #4
We'll see, there are 1 too many 88ers in police forces these days and some of those assholes are ... uponit7771 May 2021 #6
The DA said the car doesn't have to move to be seen as a threat and even moving at 1 to 2 mph uponit7771 May 2021 #5
The reporters covering this aren't buying the statement. greatauntoftriplets May 2021 #7
+1, from the video Brown wasn't moving aggressively towards anyone and they started shooting uponit7771 May 2021 #8
The car "made contact" StarfishSaver May 2021 #12
+1, DA is acting as defense attorney using the scantest meaning of threat by the vehicle ... uponit7771 May 2021 #13
MSNBC just showed whole video the one cop touched the hood of the car and the car did NOT uponit7771 May 2021 #14
What happened to just getting out of the way of the car? StarfishSaver May 2021 #16
The Feds will have to take this up as a civil rights violation. gldstwmn May 2021 #9
+1, DAs should never have to investigate LEO depts they work with. There's no impartiality there uponit7771 May 2021 #11
I agree completely. gldstwmn May 2021 #19
I don't want to justify this shooting forthemiddle May 2021 #15
You will not get a satisfactory answer. Sneederbunk May 2021 #17
It was not an arrest warrant edhopper May 2021 #18
Thanks for the clarification forthemiddle May 2021 #20

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
1. The justification to shoot him in the back of the head is scant at best seeing there wasn't
Tue May 18, 2021, 11:28 AM
May 2021

... an attempt to run into any of the cops but scant justification to kill is all some LEOs need for some.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
4. I have predicted this summer
Tue May 18, 2021, 11:43 AM
May 2021

Will see more unrest than last. I fear this may be the match that has already lit the fuse.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
6. We'll see, there are 1 too many 88ers in police forces these days and some of those assholes are ...
Tue May 18, 2021, 11:47 AM
May 2021

... trying to start their race war.

I wouldn't be shocked

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
5. The DA said the car doesn't have to move to be seen as a threat and even moving at 1 to 2 mph
Tue May 18, 2021, 11:46 AM
May 2021

... can be perceived as a threat.

This is the reason why DA's that work with police should never investigate them

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
8. +1, from the video Brown wasn't moving aggressively towards anyone and they started shooting
Tue May 18, 2021, 11:50 AM
May 2021

... when he drove away from the cops.

The DA intimated the cops were protecting those around him and that's the reason they shot him in the back as he was driving away.

The DA is saying the cop putting his hand on the hood and brown driving away is justification enough to shoot.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
13. +1, DA is acting as defense attorney using the scantest meaning of threat by the vehicle ...
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:07 PM
May 2021

... as a justification to fire into the back of the vehicle.

DA's should never have to investigate PDs they work closely with

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
14. MSNBC just showed whole video the one cop touched the hood of the car and the car did NOT
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:14 PM
May 2021

... hit him as the DA tried to portray in the still frames from the video.

Yeah, the scantest amount of justification for the shooting.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
16. What happened to just getting out of the way of the car?
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:17 PM
May 2021

Pop can't just stand in front of a vehicle and then claim the suspect was fleeing and could have run him over and therefore claim he was justified to shoot him in the head

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
19. I agree completely.
Tue May 18, 2021, 01:26 PM
May 2021

Also that law that prevents the body cam video from being released needs to be done away with.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
15. I don't want to justify this shooting
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:16 PM
May 2021

It’s horrible that another Black man is shot by cops, but I have a broader question.
Assuming that Brown was trying to flee the police while they were serving him an arrest warrant, what should police do in this situation?
Should they just allow him to get away this time, and try again later?
This maybe be a much broader question on what the police should do, and what they shouldn’t do?
I am truly unsure on what to do. Brown was a wanted criminal, with a long history of criminal behavior. Again, I’m not justifying the shootings, just looking for alternatives to arresting criminals.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
18. It was not an arrest warrant
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:44 PM
May 2021

it was a search and arrest warrant based on a confidential informant, i.e. a criminal trying to get a deal. That is they could arrest him if they found drugs. They found no drugs or firearms. So how would you justify killing a man running from a search warrant. He was not yet charged with any crime.
The DA bases his decision on Brown being a threat. How is an unarmed fleeing man a threat who should be killed.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
20. Thanks for the clarification
Tue May 18, 2021, 01:43 PM
May 2021

I specifically said I was not justifying this shooting. I was just trying to expand the conversation.

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