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Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:20 AM

This has been smoldering for a few days

As an old hippy protester, I remember government tactics and one of the most effective was simply arresting people for almost anything regardless of whether it was relative to the action or even legitimate. The theory was that repeated arrests do several things. First, they temporarily take that individual out of action. Second, they frequently cost someone something to get the individual out on bail, making already limited financial assets even more so. Third, they often (depending on who is arrested) take the focus of the movement away from the primary objective into a secondary objective, to obtain the release of the protestor. Fourth, until the arrest can be resolved and/or expunged, the individual arrested has one more incident on his or her record giving the police even more reason to arrest him or her again. Fifth, if he or she finally does go to trial drag out the process until every legal option has been taken to counter misinformation and outright lies. Rinse, wash, repeat. It is actually quite effective and one of the main reasons Leonard Peltier is still in prison for something he didn't do.

Therefore, all the delays that everyone complains about with regards to the old man in Florida and 1/6 have numerous benefits for those doing the arresting.

I certainly don't condone those tactics, but I have to admit they are often effective.

Just a thought.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:01 PM

1. As another old hippie who's seen Feds operate before, they set 'em up and knock them down ...

... I think Trump, Gaetz, Giuliani, Graham are headed for major falls in cases the Feds took their time to lock tight and be airtight.

I think almost all the insurrectionists will get some time, but there are some going down under serious hard time.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 3, 2021, 08:39 PM

4. Has there ever been a Senate leader less demcoratic than Mitch McConnell, I hope to see him go

to jail, probably wont.

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Response to ShazamIam (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 3, 2021, 11:10 PM

7. His widow may well face some justice.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Thu Jun 3, 2021, 12:47 PM

2. Those tactics were used to stop the protesting against the Iraq War. And they were so aggressive

it essentially wiped out the U.S. peace movement.

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Response to ShazamIam (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 3, 2021, 07:12 PM

3. Like I said

I don't necessarily condone them, I've just watched them operate. It's hard not to want them to come down on these traitors.

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Response to ShazamIam (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 3, 2021, 09:29 PM

5. Yes, much more effective than the 60's, and they were outrageous then.

I feel like these people are being treated with kid gloves, and that pisses me off too.





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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Thu Jun 3, 2021, 09:33 PM

6. Please explain how the delays benefit those doing the arresting..

I'm confused by what you meant that slow walking these arrests are good for the agents making the arrests, (paraphrasing)

Don't mean to be dense, but I started out in the 60's too. you know that image of the white haired old lady holding a sign on Woman's Day March in 2017. said "I can't believe I still have to do this shit" ?

well, she speaks for me.

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