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Funtatlaguy

(10,863 posts)
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:27 PM Jun 2021

Scandal revealed/outrage/talk of investigation/nothing happens/New scandal

revealed/outrage/talk of investigation/nothing happens/another scandal revealed….etc.etc,etc.

Doesn’t it seem the last five years have been like this.
Please wake me when some high level Trump crime family member is in prison.

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Scandal revealed/outrage/talk of investigation/nothing happens/New scandal (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 OP
My wife was saying the same just now. We jump from scandal to scandal but nothing gets done. Solomon Jun 2021 #1
With the (R)'s, they keep saying that we are a country of laws ... aggiesal Jun 2021 #28
I wish he would just pass on demtenjeep Jun 2021 #2
AFTER an interminably lengthy and excruciatingly painful natural illness dalton99a Jun 2021 #11
I like it demtenjeep Jun 2021 #26
He' not the problem. It's our impotency that is. triron Jun 2021 #15
same with the bush scandals - plame/fitzmas/libby et al NewHendoLib Jun 2021 #3
I am so tired of hearing how they are "closing in" on these crooks Skittles Jun 2021 #4
Biden & Garland MUST end this cycle or democracy will eventually die. Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #10
good luck with that Skittles Jun 2021 #20
The sooner we move on, the better. Let that miserable POS die a failure. Hoyt Jun 2021 #5
Nope! Won't do it. triron Jun 2021 #16
Fine, drive yourself nuts and drag country with you. trump is gone unless you Hoyt Jun 2021 #17
Letting him get away with his crimes sets a precedent. Ilsa Jun 2021 #19
We can nail him for Obstruction Of Justice BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #21
I'm moving on because trump is gone as far as I'm concerned. Ultimate jury spoke. Hoyt Jun 2021 #23
MADDENING zebrapa Jun 2021 #6
Because we're constantly being emotionally manipulated by the media. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #7
Perhaps you should write to AG Garland, AG James and DA Vance and express your impatience... brooklynite Jun 2021 #8
Not sure if this is sarcasm, if so, it's not helpful and beneath you. Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #12
Perhaps its the impatience of continually reading complaints about how DOJ et al... brooklynite Jun 2021 #13
That's true. But to say anybody on this site is "impatient " Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #14
I didn't read any criticism of the DOJ in the OP. GoodRaisin Jun 2021 #18
Thanks. Yes, I should have said "media outrage" which is often faux rage. Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #24
Yep. It's not like drumpf never committed crimes straight in our faces, like Justice matters. Jun 2021 #9
That's the truth!! Duppers Jun 2021 #22
Trump is a chaos agent who is still reigning chaos. sarcasmo Jun 2021 #25
The Helsinki interpreter should write a book on the Putin/Trump meeting Funtatlaguy Jun 2021 #27
When there was no accountability for torturing people didn't that tell people anything? Solly Mack Jun 2021 #29
"We keep being told all the reasons why demands for justice are unreasonable." Solomon Jun 2021 #30
People like their comfort zone. Solly Mack Jun 2021 #32
yep RandiFan1290 Jun 2021 #31
Was thinking this same thing 1/2 hr before I read your post. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Jun 2021 #33

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
1. My wife was saying the same just now. We jump from scandal to scandal but nothing gets done.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:29 PM
Jun 2021

It's maddening!

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
28. With the (R)'s, they keep saying that we are a country of laws ...
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:58 AM
Jun 2021

yet they (R)'s, continue to prove that we are a Banana Republic.

Country of Laws and Banana Republic are mutually exclusive.
We can't be both.

dalton99a

(81,406 posts)
11. AFTER an interminably lengthy and excruciatingly painful natural illness
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:11 PM
Jun 2021

so he gets to experience pain, suffering, and humiliation

NewHendoLib

(60,009 posts)
3. same with the bush scandals - plame/fitzmas/libby et al
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:35 PM
Jun 2021

republicans are criminals that always seem to get off the hook. and so they keep committing crimes. and will, unless they finally start to pay.

Skittles

(153,122 posts)
4. I am so tired of hearing how they are "closing in" on these crooks
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:38 PM
Jun 2021

GET IT DONE ALREADY, FUCKING DO SOMETHING

Funtatlaguy

(10,863 posts)
10. Biden & Garland MUST end this cycle or democracy will eventually die.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:11 PM
Jun 2021

That’s not hyperbole.
It’s real.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. Fine, drive yourself nuts and drag country with you. trump is gone unless you
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:26 PM
Jun 2021

allow him to live in your head. That’s exactly what trumpsters like about him.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
19. Letting him get away with his crimes sets a precedent.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:00 AM
Jun 2021

We can't afford to have any more corrupt presidents. Democracy would be at a greater risk.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
21. We can nail him for Obstruction Of Justice
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:23 AM
Jun 2021

since McGahn will testify. You CAN imprison a former POTUS...even Mueller said so.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. I'm moving on because trump is gone as far as I'm concerned. Ultimate jury spoke.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:24 AM
Jun 2021

While trump crossed criminal threshold long ago, I can see “good” Prez’s getting caught in the “their actions threatened democracy” grinder.

Believe me, I fully understand wanting to destroy that MFer, and sending a message to deplorables who support trump.

zebrapa

(112 posts)
6. MADDENING
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:48 PM
Jun 2021

I sense that a lot of us are frustrated as hell. I don't follow the news nearly as much as I used to do. My attitude is wake me when something happens.

Yavin4

(35,423 posts)
7. Because we're constantly being emotionally manipulated by the media.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 10:59 PM
Jun 2021

It's extremely difficult to charge, prosecute, and get a conviction of a sitting or former president. It just is. But our media makes it seems like it would be rather easy to do when it's not. Even the NY investigations of him are not nearly a sure thing of charges being brought let alone convictions.

brooklynite

(94,383 posts)
13. Perhaps its the impatience of continually reading complaints about how DOJ et al...
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:15 PM
Jun 2021

...aren't moving as quickly as the author would like. Prosecutors don't issue indictments based on "we know he's guilty" assertions.

Funtatlaguy

(10,863 posts)
14. That's true. But to say anybody on this site is "impatient "
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:17 PM
Jun 2021

After what we’ve witnessed for the past five years, makes us feel like WE are the problem. We are not.

GoodRaisin

(8,908 posts)
18. I didn't read any criticism of the DOJ in the OP.
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:27 PM
Jun 2021

The media's reporting is what causes this frustration. The OP nailed it.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
9. Yep. It's not like drumpf never committed crimes straight in our faces, like
Thu Jun 10, 2021, 11:07 PM
Jun 2021
catch me if you can, because you will never be able to?

That criminal makes Justice the laughing stock of the world!

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
29. When there was no accountability for torturing people didn't that tell people anything?
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:21 AM
Jun 2021

Even before that. Iran-Contra, for example. Before that - Nixon. Being allowed to resign and then pardoned is NOT accountability

Politicians make speeches, peppering their narrative with phrases like "rule of law" and "no one is above the law", stroking the people's need to see the righting of wrongs, allowing them to feel that, finally, something will be done about criminal elected officials - and they know this because some person making a speech used the words of the good guys, where the principles of justice and fairness are more than just catch phrases - all the while using catch phrases and feel-good words to express themselves.

In the novel "1984", we find the cathartic release of the two minutes of hate - and it was cathartic because it allowed the people to vent their real despair and real pain onto a politically chosen common enemy. So that even if they didn't buy into the whole Emmanuel Goldstein is the enemy of the state narrative, they could still release the raw emotions they were feeling about the world they were living in. They could feel their anger openly. Thus offering up some release. Even if they didn't make the connection between how they actually felt and their outpourings of hate to the enemy chosen for them by the state. Redirected anger. Targeted anger.

Same applies to two-minutes of happiness. Where a speaker draws you in with ideals you believe in and words spoken that make you feel good again. Only those words are meaningless if no action is taken to further the ideals. But no matter, you get caught up in phrases like "no one is above the law", each turn and twist of righteous validation hitting all the right spots. You've been thirsting so long and now there is water. You cheer. You cry. You have release.


You forget that war criminals got away with their crimes - with all your energies focused on the most recent of criminal politicians and all the bad they did. You ask the exact same questions now that you did 20 years ago. "How did this happen?", "How was this allowed?", "How far have we've fallen?", "How?", "Why?". You demand justice. You claim "This is not America". Completely disregarding the history of America.


And this pattern will continue to repeat itself as long as it works to control the demands of the people. As long as it offers up an outlet. And make no mistake, it is a form of manipulation. As long as it creates enough room so people can forget once again... until the next outrage comes along.

We keep demanding justice and accountability and we keep getting told "no one is above the law" by those in power.

Only, it's obvious that quite a few people are above the law and no amount of feel-good speeches will change that.

We keep being told all the reasons why demands for justice are unreasonable.

Justice - unreasonable.

And people wonder why Trump ever came to power. Just like they'll wonder how the next wannabe tyrant gained power.


















Solomon

(12,310 posts)
30. "We keep being told all the reasons why demands for justice are unreasonable."
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 05:50 AM
Jun 2021

Really hit the nail on the head with that one. I think this is what pisses me off the most. If you say anything, you're the one being unreasonable. You can even see it in this thread.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
32. People like their comfort zone.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 07:46 AM
Jun 2021

And a lot of people retreat back into it as soon as possible.

Trump lost (Trump as a recent example)! Back to my comfort zone. Change has come. We're back! We can get back to normal (whatever the fuck that means) now.

Any disruption or potential disruption to the above thinking is viewed as hostile.

And demanding accountability is considered a disruption by many.

People get tired of struggling and they get scared and they want release. Even a false sense of release.


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