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tinrobot

(10,885 posts)
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:26 AM Jun 2021

He didn't just spy on Democrats

One thing that came to mind about the DOJ spying thing -- If they could do it to Democrats, they could also do it to Republicans (or anyone else, for that matter).

And you wonder why Lindsay Graham and so many other GOP'ers fell in line so quickly after he took office.

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He didn't just spy on Democrats (Original Post) tinrobot Jun 2021 OP
Good point. Hugin Jun 2021 #1
Also 'fell in line' after the insurrection. Lindsey, Mitch etc. etc. spanone Jun 2021 #2
Maybe that's what we should call them. calimary Jun 2021 #20
👍🏼 spanone Jun 2021 #24
Dirty Spy mactire Jun 2021 #3
He spied on the Dems investigating TRUMP-RUSSIA connection. Kid Berwyn Jun 2021 #4
And whined about legitimate investigations wnylib Jun 2021 #21
I Wonder if Sinema Was a Victim of Trump's Spying? It Would Explain Her Dangerous Actions Lately. Indykatie Jun 2021 #5
Occam's Razor logic would suggest rather that she is just an opportunist... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #7
We've been suggesting this for years n/t malaise Jun 2021 #6
Yep Andy823 Jun 2021 #9
How do you think they kept Gaetz on line? Cracklin Charlie Jun 2021 #8
The Pecker model malaise Jun 2021 #10
+1 pandr32 Jun 2021 #19
In every sense of the word liberaltrucker Jun 2021 #25
I wonder they got on Cruz hibbing Jun 2021 #11
I never wondered about that. 2naSalit Jun 2021 #12
It is obvious, Graham & McCarthy could not have been more clear Escurumbele Jun 2021 #13
I wonder if it's feasible for all of the ones wnylib Jun 2021 #22
I don't doubt there is some blackmail going on ScratchCat Jun 2021 #26
Distortion AND extortion. Like bookends. jaxexpat Jun 2021 #14
I'm sure he gave Putin all our intelligence Johonny Jun 2021 #15
Yes, for 4 years we had a foreign agent wnylib Jun 2021 #23
So quickly, it's surprising they didn't get whiplash. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #16
Quite possible Joinfortmill Jun 2021 #17
it's been clear since trump started inviting all those pol's to mar-a-whorego.... getagrip_already Jun 2021 #18
I was hopeful ScratchCat Jun 2021 #27
Why do people need to believe that Graham was somehow above the right-wing fray? Politicub Jun 2021 #28
Because of the complete 180 ScratchCat Jun 2021 #29
This sounds like a list of things that people to throw out to make the irrational seem logical. Politicub Jun 2021 #30

Hugin

(33,045 posts)
1. Good point.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:31 AM
Jun 2021

Likely a so-called investigation was begun on 1) People TFG wanted to control and/or 2) People TFG wanted gone.

Of course, the investigations were sure to find something... Even if it was as fictitious as TFG's health records.

You have to recall, the DoJ was openly operating as the would be dicktater's personal law firm for much of the time.

calimary

(81,103 posts)
20. Maybe that's what we should call them.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jun 2021

“Fell-in-line-after-the-insurrection Lindsey.”

“Fell-in-line-after-the-insurrection Mitchie.”

We can just go down the list.

Take a tactical page from the bad guys. Repetition! WE can do that, too!

mactire

(115 posts)
3. Dirty Spy
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 09:41 AM
Jun 2021

It was always surmised that trump must have had some incriminating info on Graham and others for them to do such an aboutface on their opinions of him. This gives more credence to that belief.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
9. Yep
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 10:20 AM
Jun 2021

Anyone that has been around a narcissist knows that they get the dirt not only their enemies, but also anyone around them so they can use the "dirt" they find to control them.

All those republicans in DC that kiss up to trump are doing so in order to make sure trump doesn't air their "dirty laundry". The days of putting country over party, or in this case country over "trump", are long gone.

Escurumbele

(3,378 posts)
13. It is obvious, Graham & McCarthy could not have been more clear
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:13 AM
Jun 2021

One day Graham is calling trump deserved names, like "cook", "incompetent", "not fit for office", etc. (telling the truth about the SOB) and next day after a golf outing he becomes a lap dog.

McCarthy for once tells the truth and calls out trump about the January 6 insurrection, next day he comes out of Mar-A-Lago a "new born", converted lap dog as Graham.

And how about Moscow Mitch??? And Gym Jordan???, Gaetz, Rubio, etc. mafia trump the buffoon has dirt on all of them, and like a good mafia criminal, if they didn't have it before? the buffoon made sure to place it on their laps.

They all know who trump the buffoon is, what he is, and I am sure they hate his guts, but they love their freedom much more.

wnylib

(21,334 posts)
22. I wonder if it's feasible for all of the ones
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 12:25 PM
Jun 2021

being threarened to come forward as a group and get immunity. OK, not likely, but if possible, it would completely undercut the spy and threaten operation.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
26. I don't doubt there is some blackmail going on
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:11 PM
Jun 2021

But I'm not as convinced it explains more than just a few. I mean, Trump and Trump alone would have to have gained concrete, verifiable information on criminal acts that these folks would supposedly been involved in. Again, it would have to be information nobody else could obtain. This just isn't possible. Embarrassing personal stuff? Sure. But things that they would be afraid of actually going to jail for that nobody else could find out about? I just don't think so.

Johonny

(20,818 posts)
15. I'm sure he gave Putin all our intelligence
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:18 AM
Jun 2021

It's a matter of time before we learn what secrets Trump gave away. He didn't just spy, he was/is a spy.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,559 posts)
16. So quickly, it's surprising they didn't get whiplash.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jun 2021

Graham and Cruz appeared to be steadfast against him, but were suddenly fully on board. More than a little suspicious.

getagrip_already

(14,618 posts)
18. it's been clear since trump started inviting all those pol's to mar-a-whorego....
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 11:33 AM
Jun 2021

He had an unlicensed massage parlor on site. He had underaged immigrant staff. He had cameras everywhere. He was obsessed with what his "guests" said and did while at the "resort".

And being republicans, they lapped all the freebies up.

It was really that easy in a lot of cases.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
27. I was hopeful
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:14 PM
Jun 2021

That once Trump was gone maybe a few Republicans would bite the bullet and run to DOJ and disclose that Trump was blackmailing them. And maybe they have and we'll hear about it soon. If you think about it, this would be super hush-hush and not leaked until the indictment was ready.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
28. Why do people need to believe that Graham was somehow above the right-wing fray?
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:16 PM
Jun 2021

He has always been a piece-of-shit opportunist. He received extra attention from the Trump administration, which was enough to stroke his ego.

Trump was the tip of the authoritarian spear that congressional republicans wanted, even if they didn't know it ahead of time.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
29. Because of the complete 180
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jun 2021

You don't start with accurately calling Trump a crook and dangerous, go golfing with him once and decide he is the greatest person in the history of the world and above reproach because you were simply all wrong about the guy. Trump's buddy at the Enquirer got pictures of Graham in a compromising situation, probably with a teenage male lover and you can take it to the bank. Ted Cruz is just a piece of garbage. That's the only explanation needed for him. Graham is being blackmailed.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
30. This sounds like a list of things that people to throw out to make the irrational seem logical.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jun 2021

No one has evidence of him being blackmailed, beyond unsubstantiated rumors that keep being repeated.

He's a craven, political animal. Republicans always get in line -- no blackmail necessary.

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