Who is being hospitalized for Covid-19? The unvaccinated

[babylonsister]

womp womp


Who is being hospitalized for Covid-19? The unvaccinated
NBC Universal
Erika Edwards
June 11, 2021, 5:39 PM


There are only three Covid-19 patients at Sandra Atlas Bass Heart Hospital at North Shore University Hospital, on Long Island, New York — a far cry from when the hospital, which is part of Northwell Health, had as many as 600 patients during the peak of the pandemic.

All three patients, who are in the intensive care unit, have one thing in common, said Dr. Hugh Cassiere, director of the hospital's critical care services: They're unvaccinated.

The trend appears to be occurring at hospitals nationwide.

"I haven't had anyone that's been fully vaccinated become critically ill," said Dr. Josh Denson, a pulmonary medicine and critical care physician at Tulane University Medical Center in New Orleans.

It's been the same for Dr. Ken Lyn-Kew, a pulmonologist in the critical care department at Denver's National Jewish Health: "None of our ICU patients has been vaccinated."

more...

https://www.aol.com/news/being-hospitalized-covid-19-unvaccinated-213959814.html

[tanyev]

1. Yeah, but at least they're not magnetized!

[Budi]

4. LOL...

Ugh.

[leftieNanner]

15. OMG!

All the medical equipment, scalpels, and bed pans would be flying across the room and sticking to their foreheads.

Now THAT would be scary.

[moonscape]

2. An acquaintance/friend called this

morning from Calgary. We were talking pandemic and she said at her local hosp there are 22 covid cases and all 22 she claimed were vaccinated. I asked which vaccine, she didn’t know. Since Canada was having a long period between doses, I suspect it’s those with only a single dose. Still, it was disconcerting to hear if true. That said, am clueless about the broader context. She did say some provinces are having to move patients around to different hospitals which have available beds and equipment.

She got her 1st jab some time ago and will finally be getting her 2nd in a couple of weeks, and she’s an immuno-compromised senior.

[druidity33]

5. I call bullshit on that...

honestly it would be ALL OVER the news if that were the case. Does she work at the hospital? Do you know what hospital she's talking about? Those numbers are not that hard to check...

[moonscape]

10. She's the mother of a deceased friend,

which is why I added the ‘acquaintance’ as I don’t really know her.

She is at the hosp every 2 weeks, as she has been for several years, for treatments. I don’t think she’s deliberately lying, but there is obviously more to the story. She’s not an anti-vaxer at all, so that’s not a motivation to spin a tale.

Beyond that, dunno.

[Merlot]

16. Perhaps someone at the hospital misinformed her

anti vaxers love their disinformation...lies.

I agree that if this story were true we'd be hearing about it in the news, not secondhand.

[moonscape]

22. You inspired me to Google and I found the

real story. It’s about the Delta variant and nearly 50% had been vaccinated, not the 100% she thought. She wasn’t lying, just mis-heard or remembered, and it was hosp spread not independent cases from outside.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-covid-19-outbreak-at-calgary-hospital-linked-to-delta-variant-grows-to/

[womanofthehills]

26. One in 20 "Delta" covid infections in fully vaccinated in UK

11th June
One in 20 'Delta' Covid infections found in fully vaccinated patients

AROUND one in 20 people infected with the Delta variant of coronavirus were fully vaccinated and at least 14 days on from their second vaccine dose, according to new data.

The figures relate to cases in England since February this year, when the variant was first detected in the UK, but the pattern is likely to be extremely similar in Scotland.

The Delta variant, first identified in India, is now believed to be responsible for more than 90 per cent of Covid infections across the UK with 3,035 cases confirmed in Scotland to date - 1524 in the past week alone.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19367363.one-20-delta-covid-infections-fully-vaccinated-patients/

[BGBD]

31. That means 95% of Delta infections

Are among unvaccinated people. That's a testiment to the vaccine.

[druidity33]

35. Hospitalized cases? Or cases? Because...

if you say 100% of hospitalized cases were vaccinated, i'm just not going to believe you. And i'll reiterate... it would be all over the news.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

8. The odds of that being true are so exceedingly low statistically ...

I am wondering how much the hospital did to confirm the claims that all these people were vaccinated.

Or if the acquaintance doesn't really know what they're talking about.

[moonscape]

13. She's a pretty grounded person, as well as I

know her. But that doesn’t mean she didn’t confuse something in the telling.

A number of things don’t seem logical about it.

[greenjar_01]

9. Bullshit

[womanofthehills]

28. The Lancet had an article last week about the Pfizer vaccine being 5x less effective against

The Delta strain. It said the vaccinated elderly might not make as many antibodies to this strain as younger people.

London: People fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine are likely to have more than five times lower levels of neutralising antibodies against the Delta variant first identified in India compared to the original strain, according to research published in The Lancet journal.
The study also shows that levels of these antibodies that are able to recognise and fight the virus are lower with increasing age, and that levels decline over time, providing additional evidence in support of plans to deliver a booster dose to vulnerable people. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pfizer-jab-has-5-times-less-antibodies-against-covid-delta-variant-lancet-study-2456362I

[LisaL]

14. She is likely confused.

She is probably talking about this situation, but she got the details wrong. There was an outbreak linked to a hospital, but they are not all vaccinated, and not all hospitalized either.

"On Thursday, Alberta’s top doctor revealed that of 22 people diagnosed with the Delta variant after a hospital outbreak in Calgary, 10 had been fully immunized with two doses of COVID-19 vaccine. They are believed to have mild forms of the illness."

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/delta-covid-19-variant-infections-stable-as-b-c-cases-continue-to-decrease-overall-1.5467622

[Merlot]

18. Thanks for the link

10 who were fully vaxed is almost 50 percent, and while they aren't in ICU it was serious enough to get them into a hospital.

Not the worst news, but not best news by any means.

[LisaL]

19. No, it sounds like they were infected in the hospital. They were not hospitalized.

NT

[moonscape]

23. Tow of them were in intensive care per the

Globe and Mail article I linked about. They’re still sorting this out sounds like ...

[druidity33]

36. This is probably it right here. Good catch LisaL! nt.

[Disaffected]

21. All 22 were vaccinated??

Seems statistically very unlikely.

[NoMoreRepugs]

3. Who could have possibly predicted that?

[demtenjeep]

6. tough shit

play stupid games........................

[TheBlackAdder]

7. NJ is opening up and maskholes are flooding the stores, just in time for a 4th of July outbreak!

[JI7]

11. Mask requirements protected some people

that would not have put them on without the requirement to get into certain places.

[TreasonousBastard]

12. It would seem to be only fair if the unvaxxed paid full freight for their medical care.

[smirkymonkey]

20. I agree.

These people are a burden on the system and the expense of their care was completely preventable. They should have to pay out of pocket for refusing to get vaccinated.

[DBoon]

37. it would be inhumane to deny them medical care

crushing debt leading to bankruptcy is a different matter

[dawg day]

17. The research seems to show that those vaxxed who do get the disease --

and 5% might-- aren't having nearly as bad an illness. And many more seem to be asymptomatic, which means they're actually fighting it off. They might still be contagious, of course.

I really can't feel too sorry for those who know all this (or at least hear all this and choose to listen to Cucker Tarlson instead) and refuse the vax.

But I have a couple friends who can't get the shot because of treatment they're undergoing, and one who is on immune-suppressants because of a kidney transplant, and of course we have to remember all the children under 12, including babies who might not be able to get a vaccine until they're 2.

They are still at risk, yet that risk could be lessened so much if everyone else were immune or close to it.
(I have to be very careful, because I'm thinking this is good reason for the resisters to... leave the rest of us. I won't say how I think they should leave. But the world would literally be healthier without them.)

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

24. Because there are those who cannot get the vaccine, it's crucial

that those of us who can, get it.

I'm an annoyingly healthy person to begin with. I don't happen to get flu shots (and no, I'm NOT a nonsymptomatic carrier. That doesn't happen with influenza) but I got the Covid-19 vaccine as soon as I could. Yeah, maybe I'd be just fine if I got it, but this is one thing I'm not willing to take a chance on. Sort of like shingles. Shingles generally won't kill you, although it can make your life miserable. So I got the recent two-shot vaccine for that last year. So glad I did. My older brother has gotten shingles several times, and my younger son got it at age 20. It's definitely something I can pass on.

I think if I actually got one wish, I'd wish for every person in the world to be at least as healthy as I am. Okay, so the down side would be that a lot of doctors would be out of work, but the up side would be excellent health for everyone.

[dawg day]

27. So true--

We in the US are fortunate to have such access to vaccinations-- much of the rest of the world must be appalled that 28% of us would deliberately refuse the life=preserver.

[Ms. Toad]

30. It is actually just about the same percentage of vaccinated who get serious illness,

as in the unvaccinated population.

It is just that there are fewer cases.

And the most important thing you said is that 15% of the country is not yet eligible to be vaccinated (those 11 and under). Aside from the greater risk the unvaccinated pose to all of us, it is incredibly irresponsible of us to pretend that the unvaccinated are all unvaccinated by choice and to suggest leaving them to their own devices.

[AwakeAtLast]

25. Darwin. n/t

[Ms. Toad]

29. Included in that group is the 15% of the country not yet eligible to be vaccinated -

children ages 0-11.

[OhioChick]

34. Good Point n/t

[Brainfodder]

33. I dare say it makes perfect sense, unlike the anti-vax crowd?

Is that out of a DUH! Magazine?