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babylonsister

(171,042 posts)
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 10:43 AM Jun 2021

Eric Boehlert: It's worse than Watergate

It’s worse than Watergate
Abuse of power
Eric Boehlert
3 hr ago


Stunning new abuse-of-power revelations remind us of the Trump administration’s complete disregard for democratic principles. We now know that over a span of years it took extraordinary legal measures, including gag orders and secret tribunals, in pursuit of email records from reporters at CNN and the Washington Post. Team Trump also unleashed the courts on Democratic members of Congress and their families trying to obtain private phone records, as well as secretly targeting a key White House attorney, who possibly fell under suspicion for not being sufficiently loyal to Trump.

The disturbing portrait now in focus is one of a Republican White House that for four years worked in tandem with partisan prosecutors to systematically politicize the vast powers of the Justice Department, which often treated Trump’s allies leniently, and used unprecedented tools to target his foes. It was Trump recklessly using the executive branch to gather private information on members of the legislative branch, as well as members of the media.

The emerging scandal already eclipses Richard Nixon’s Watergate in terms of the benchmarks we use to gauge Washington, D.C. abuse of power. It’s “Nixon on stilts and steroids,” Nixon’s former White House Counsel John Dean recently told CNN. "Nixon didn't have that kind of Department of Justice.”

It’s worse than Watergate because the White House abuse of power was purposely powered by the Justice Department. This would have been if U.S. Attorney General John Mitchell had helped plot the Watergate break-in, instead of a band of rogue Nixon sycophants. This is worse because it’s institutional abuse conducted by political entities with boundless authority, such as the White House and the DOJ.

“Taken together with the Republican Party’s refusal to hold Trump to account for the Capitol insurrection and its nationwide efforts to restrict voting, the new allegations also indicate that the freedoms and core values that have underpinned American life for two-and-a-half centuries remain in almost unprecedented peril,” stressed CNN’s Stephen Collinson.

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Eric Boehlert: It's worse than Watergate (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2021 OP
HOw Was Prosecutor Balantine Able To Bring Thosse Supoenas Before a Judge? Me. Jun 2021 #1
Nixon was a choirboy moondust Jun 2021 #2
Nixon did not go to jail. Kablooie Jun 2021 #3
Boom! And there you have it! Raster Jun 2021 #5
Blame Gerald Ford. ShazzieB Jun 2021 #8
Precisely. Nixon gave the precedent on abuse of power without consequences onetexan Jun 2021 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Jun 2021 #9
Thank you Jerry Ford - u F'en tool. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2021 #10
People generally do their best summer_in_TX Jun 2021 #29
IMO, Ford put party over country. July Jun 2021 #38
Pelosi seemed to genuinely believe NullTuples Jun 2021 #39
"Nixon did not go to jail." LudwigPastorius Jun 2021 #14
How do we really know he doesn't have a pocket pardon hmmm? n/t hookaleft Jun 2021 #33
"No consequences have consequences." lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #25
DAYUM, Kablooie! Now THERE's a talking point! calimary Jun 2021 #30
Yeppers. Hugin Jun 2021 #34
Yes and yes. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2021 #37
"gag orders and secret tribunals" bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #4
Fifty years ago the country and even the Republicans were outraged when Nixon's illegal jalan48 Jun 2021 #6
K&R UCmeNdc Jun 2021 #7
this llashram Jun 2021 #11
EVERYTHING the orange anus touches turns to shit. Augiedog Jun 2021 #12
If you dialed up DU every day during the Trump administration like I did Mr. Ected Jun 2021 #13
it was worse that watergate when they got the recording of Javaman Jun 2021 #15
"a cancer on the Presidency" BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #16
Hey Bob, congratulations on passing 10,000 posts. KS Toronado Jun 2021 #23
Thank you very much. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #24
I sure do remember that! calimary Jun 2021 #31
Watergate was political hanky-panky by comparison. lpbk2713 Jun 2021 #17
Republican leadership could care less. They only answer to donors. nt Baked Potato Jun 2021 #18
Watergate was a college prank Turbineguy Jun 2021 #19
Pandora's box had its lid torn off and ripped to piecex. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2021 #20
Watergate faced no punishment... RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2021 #21
It might explain Trump's hold on the GOP Jarqui Jun 2021 #22
Exactly. Turd got tired of outsourcing Kompromat-collection to the KGB. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #26
Undoubtedly. calimary Jun 2021 #32
Sewagegate Blue Owl Jun 2021 #27
Nixon 2.0. The Reputicans figured they'd perfected the crime this time. ffr Jun 2021 #28
so many times, stuff Trump has done has been called "worst than watergate"... nothing comes of it Demovictory9 Jun 2021 #35

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. HOw Was Prosecutor Balantine Able To Bring Thosse Supoenas Before a Judge?
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jun 2021

and by whose say so or was she one of those partisan prosecutors?

moondust

(19,966 posts)
2. Nixon was a choirboy
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jun 2021

compared to Capo45.

I was naive enough to believe the "Party of Lincoln" would learn its lesson from the Nixon debacle and clean up its act. But it only got worse. Much worse.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. Boom! And there you have it!
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 11:52 AM
Jun 2021

Nixon should have been prosecuted, and if found guilty, subjected to the full extent of the law, including incarceration.
He was a crook. And a liar. And a con.
Nixon should have gone to prison.

ShazzieB

(16,348 posts)
8. Blame Gerald Ford.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jun 2021

No one had a chance to prosecute Nixon. Pres. Ford, Nixon's sucessor, gave Tricky Dick a "full, free, and absolute" pardon for any crimes he may have committed while in office. This action was widely condemned at the time, but nobody could do a dadblasted thing about it.

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
36. Precisely. Nixon gave the precedent on abuse of power without consequences
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 03:55 AM
Jun 2021

The Con followed that playbook & amplified the abuse 1000-fold. At least nixon was an intellifent man. The con is ignominious &rotten to the core.

Ford wad a pats
y & was essentially Pence, only Pence is 100 worse given his faux religious leanings.

Response to Raster (Reply #5)

summer_in_TX

(2,727 posts)
29. People generally do their best
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:08 AM
Jun 2021

but sometimes make mistakes.

Ford seemed to genuinely believe that prolonging the prosecution of Nixon would harm the nation.

I don't agree. But I think he was an okay guy doing what he thought would be best. Not a tool.

July

(4,750 posts)
38. IMO, Ford put party over country.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 09:49 AM
Jun 2021

The prosecution of Nixon was never begun, let alone prolonged.

It would have been good for the country if Nixon and others who abused their powers had been held accountable in court.

But it would have shown more than one Republican in a very bad light. And we couldn’t have that, could we?

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
39. Pelosi seemed to genuinely believe
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 11:01 AM
Jun 2021

... that prolonging the prosecution of Bush-Cheney would harm the nation & look where that got us.

They were convicted of international war crimes but found no punishment here at home.

The GOP learned from that experience that they could act with impunity. A year or two later, Mitch McConnell began his reign of obstruction & his takeover of the courts. The GOP started up operation redmap to skew every race they could through overt gerrymandering & voter oppression.

And here we are.

LudwigPastorius

(9,126 posts)
14. "Nixon did not go to jail."
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 12:49 PM
Jun 2021

...only because of Gerald Ford.

A federal grand jury was about to indict Nixon for bribery, conspiracy, obstruction of justice and obstruction of a criminal investigation when he was pardoned.

Donald Trump will receive no presidential pardon.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
30. DAYUM, Kablooie! Now THERE's a talking point!
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:00 AM
Jun 2021

No consequences have consequences.

Absolutely gorgeous!

jalan48

(13,852 posts)
6. Fifty years ago the country and even the Republicans were outraged when Nixon's illegal
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jun 2021

activities became public. How times have changed as we've evolved into an oligarchical form of government.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
13. If you dialed up DU every day during the Trump administration like I did
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jun 2021

His criminality was on full display with little filter. If the media had only fulfilled its duty, we might have had a fighting chance to stave off fascism before it took full root. Now, it's going to be an uphill battle and our future lies in the balance.

Javaman

(62,507 posts)
15. it was worse that watergate when they got the recording of
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 12:56 PM
Jun 2021

the orange asshole saying where he would grab a woman.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
16. "a cancer on the Presidency"
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:00 PM
Jun 2021

Remember that? It seems almost quaint now.

That "cancer," as serious as it was, wasn't even a skin tag, compared to the malignancy recently foisted upon America, its government, and is people. Nixon wasn't trying to overthrow the established order, but to game it for his own agenda. As bad as was that agenda and the whole paradigm surrounding it, what was attempted in very recent history and is still alive today is far, far worse. Almost immeasurably worse, because it would be the end of everything good about the American government and institutions.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
31. I sure do remember that!
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:05 AM
Jun 2021

Your description is outstanding!

“That ‘cancer,’ as serious as it was, wasn't even a skin tag, compared to the malignancy recently foisted upon America, its government, and is people.”

lpbk2713

(42,750 posts)
17. Watergate was political hanky-panky by comparison.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:04 PM
Jun 2021


Trump conspired with a foreign power (Putin) to corrupt our government.

Why is this traitor not in jail yet?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
20. Pandora's box had its lid torn off and ripped to piecex.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jun 2021

With so many imitators around the country, how is it remotely possible to fix us?

SOS

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,667 posts)
21. Watergate faced no punishment...
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:19 PM
Jun 2021

so we all knew this would be worse.

And just think if Ford had any foresight. repubs cover for repubs PERIOD ! this is the 50 year problem

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
22. It might explain Trump's hold on the GOP
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jun 2021

If he used these extraordinary measures to get dirt on members of the GOP, he could blackmail them into doing his bidding.

Example? See Lindsey Graham.

It was pretty obvious that they'd flipped Lindsey with Kompromat. Now ,we seem to have further insight into how they could have obtained that Kompromat.

Does Congress twiddle it's thumbs on what to do? Probably.

Basically, Trump did what he accused the Democrats of doing.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
26. Exactly. Turd got tired of outsourcing Kompromat-collection to the KGB.
Mon Jun 14, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jun 2021

So he was setting up his own shop.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
32. Undoubtedly.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 02:10 AM
Jun 2021

That projection shtick is always the “tell.”

Whatever he accuses somebody else of doing, he IS ACTUALLY DOING at the same time, or has been doing for awhile.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
28. Nixon 2.0. The Reputicans figured they'd perfected the crime this time.
Tue Jun 15, 2021, 01:00 AM
Jun 2021

Take Mitch McConnell out of the equation and half of their double-down mess wouldn't exist.

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