Just finished listening to a discussion of the Delta variant of COVID-19.

[joetheman]

After speaking with a relative who was sickened by what she thinks was COVID-19 because of losing her taste and smell senses I thought I should post my comments about the origin of the virus here in hopes of hearing from anyone else who may have had similar
experience in 2019? I hope any investigation of the origin of the virus will look for potential cases much earlier than was stated on the news report.

It may be that the COVID-19 originated in a lab. But it didn't have to be a Chinese lab for starters. I know two scientists were hospitalized sometime in late 2019. But to me, that doesn't prove a Chinese lab origin. Here is why:

In early June, my friend's daughter returned for Atlanta, GA after having attended a graduation for her sister around May 28. Three days after returning to Maryland, she got very sick, losing her taste and smell on about the 8th day. She said she thought she was dying because she was having great difficulty breathing. Her husband also became ill but not to the extent that she did. The young lady was sick for 7 weeks before she started feeling better. She had received antibiotics from her doctor which included the usual Z-Pack, aspirin, and she self-treated with vitamins C, D and zinc (Coldeeze tabs). Was in the bed for four days straight with sweats and chills. Was tested for flu (negative) and a few other bugs that all came back negative. She nver really felt totally healed until the latter part of August.

Around that same time, we were reading news reports about seemingly healthy people vacationing around the world suddenly dying without explanation. Several folks in my own immediate family fell ill, went to CVS or to the emergency room and ALL tested negative for the flu. One developed pneumonia that was hard to treat because the virus type could not be identified. Luckily he responded to a series treatments and was fine within about four weeks.

So, I repeat. This COVID-19 may have begun outside a lab and was carried into a lab.. It may or may not have started in China. So I am very interested in what a thorough investigation about this virus turns up.

And, yes, I did convey all this information to health officials and even wrote to a few Cogrescritters on Twitter and sent letters to Fauci, and the Biden camp about these anecdotes. Haven't heard anyything from anyone. I don't care to hear anything from those I contacted. I just want them to have the information and to consider it when studying this virus.

[Hoyt]

1. Interesting. Thanks. Doubt we'll ever know the truth, at this point.

Whatever origin, there was no need to attempt blaming China.

[womanofthehills]

2. I think we might end up knowing the truth because so many virologists are researching sequences

[OhZone]

3. I wonder if we'll ever know exactly -

But I've read about other people experiencing the similar symptoms far earlier than the reported timing of the Wuhan outbreak.

Italy and Spain went back and checked sewage samples and found evidence of the virus before the Wuhan events. Spain claims it found fragments of the virus in a sample from March 12, 2019.

https://www.darkdaily.com/studies-finding-remnants-of-sars-cov-2-in-sewage-suggest-covid-19-may-not-have-originated-at-wuhan-market-some-scientists-dispute-the-findings/

And there was the Fort Detrick lab's shutdown supposedly for lax security earlier in 2019. I'm not sure of the exact date, but it was also studying "gain of function" so did something escape from there before it was shut down for a while?

https://wjla.com/news/local/cdc-shut-down-army-germ-lab-health-concerns#:~:text=%28AP%20Photo%2FPatrick%20Semansky%29%20FREDERICK%2C%20Md.%20%E2%80%94%20In%202019%2C,CDC%20inspection%2C%20with%20many%20projects%20being%20temporarily%20halted.

Who knows.

[intrepidity]

4. Just remember

The most closely related genetic relative of sars-cov2 is ratg13, a (bat shit) sample retrieved in 2013 from a cave in China.

[meadowlander]

5. There's a lot of nasty viruses out there that haven't been named or isolated.

I caught something over Christmas break 2018/2019 which turned into pneumonia and knocked me flat on my ass for the better part of three months. It was well into September/October 2019 before the brain fog cleared and I had my normal levels of energy back.

Was it early undetected Covid-19 or just some other nasty super-flu? No idea. It's the sickest I've ever been in my life but I'll probably never know what the specific strain it was. There's dozens of new flu strains every year and each of them affects different people differently.

We just don't have enough information at this stage to say.

[joetheman]

6. You are correct. We just don't have enough information.

That is why I hope this investigation broadens its scope to examine reported severe cases back into early 2019 at least.

[appalachiablue]

7. This is so impt., thanks for posting Joe.