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Wed Jun 30, 2021, 09:57 PM

Judge Denies Britney Spears' Request to Remove Father From Conservatorship

A judge has shot down Britney Spears’ request to have her father removed from her conservatorship.

New court documents that were filed by the Los Angeles Superior Court on Wednesday show that the judge has denied the request by Spears’ attorney, Samuel Ingham III, to remove her father, Jamie Spears, as her sole conservator.

“The conservator’s request to suspend James P. Spears immediately upon the appointment of Bessemer Trust Company of California as sole conservator of estate is denied without prejudice,” the court documents state.

Samuel Ingham III had filed the request to remove Spears’ father back in November 2020, stating that his client was “afraid of her father” and would refuse to perform again, if her father continued to be in charge of her career. At that time, Judge Brenda Penny declined to suspend her father from the conservatorship, though she did not rule out future petitions for his removal or suspension. Also, at that time, the judge appointed financial company Bessemer Trust as a co-conservator.



https://variety.com/2021/music/news/britney-spears-conservatorship-request-denied-remove-father-1235009486/

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Reply Judge Denies Britney Spears' Request to Remove Father From Conservatorship (Original post)
RandySF Jun 30 OP
Doremus Jun 30 #1
durablend Jun 30 #2
dawg day Jun 30 #6
a kennedy Jun 30 #3
dawg day Jun 30 #4
onecaliberal Jun 30 #10
SoonerPride Jun 30 #5
hlthe2b Jun 30 #9
lindysalsagal Jul 1 #33
dawg day Jun 30 #11
qazplm135 Jun 30 #13
BannonsLiver Jun 30 #17
oregonjen Jul 1 #23
BannonsLiver Jul 1 #34
oregonjen Jul 1 #36
RandySF Jun 30 #18
JI7 Jul 1 #25
SoonerPride Jul 1 #27
onecaliberal Jun 30 #7
boston bean Jun 30 #8
qazplm135 Jun 30 #12
dawg day Jun 30 #14
qazplm135 Jun 30 #19
maxsolomon Jun 30 #15
Nexus2 Jun 30 #16
aurora the great Jun 30 #21
maxsolomon Jul 1 #24
obamanut2012 Jul 1 #29
Johonny Jun 30 #20
quickesst Jul 1 #22
Xolodno Jul 1 #26
Happy Hoosier Jul 1 #31
obamanut2012 Jul 1 #28
treestar Jul 1 #30
Happy Hoosier Jul 1 #32
lindysalsagal Jul 1 #35

Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 09:59 PM

1. Shocking. That poor woman.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 09:59 PM

2. Hey but *at least* Bill Cosby is free to prey on more women!

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Response to durablend (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:02 PM

6. Yeah, so much for the wisdom of judges

She can't marry or have another child because she committed the crime of... uh....?

But Bill Cosby is sleeping completely free now in his own house.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:00 PM

3. WTH??? 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:01 PM

4. This is really terrifying-

Who knew that a competent working person could have all of her freedom taken away-- and have it ratified again and again by a judge?

I hope she does go on strike. I bet a lot of this is all about keeping her performing and earning money, much of which is probably siphoned off for "expenses".

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Response to dawg day (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:04 PM

10. He gives himself double the amount he gives her monthly.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:01 PM

5. I think she is more unwell than the public knows.

The judge had more evidence than the tabloids.

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:04 PM

9. It is possible. I researched the judge and she seems to have nothing to suggest questionable

background, bias, or other reason to expect such a judgement.

Here's what we know about Judge Penny.

She was appointed to the bench in 2018 by former Governor Jerry Brown. Her current term ends on January 4, 2027, according to Ballotpedia

A graduate of the University of Southern California and the University of West Los Angeles School of Law, Penny began her legal career in 1982 as an associate at the law firm Gronemeier & Barker. In 1989, she became a partner.

According to Penny's biography on legal database Trellis, she entered solo practice in 1994. Three years later, she became a probate attorney for the Los Angeles County Superior Court.

A registered Democrat, Penny was elected by the superior court judges to serve as court commissioner in 2014. She was a commissioner for four years, until her appointment to the bench.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:57 AM

33. Thanks for that. I don't care about her, but the precedent it sets for other judges and women

in the 21st century.

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:05 PM

11. Really, so what.

Many of us are "unwell". How many of us are under the near-total control of a father when we're an adult? Do any of us know any one in that situation? Maybe someone elderly with Alzheimers-- but someone young and with full mental capacity?

Having some mental health issues shouldn't mean losing your freedom for decades.


She is, I note, well enough to make bestselling albums and earn millions of dollars performing every night for weeks on end-- whether she wants to or not. There's a word for that, isn't there-- forcing another person to do labor against their will ... what's that word again?

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Response to dawg day (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:10 PM

13. let's assume the other side

that the judge had evidence that:

1. She would be prey to others if she managed her own affairs.
2. She would be incapable of properly taking care of her own affairs possibly leading to loss of some or all of her assets and money
3. The father was not, at least on the face, substantially taking advantage of the situation financially (i.e. not draining her account, or not keeping her in a state of poverty or destitution).

If true, that might suggest that she does not have "full mental capacity."

Bottom line is, I don't know, but I tend to trust a female Democratic judge on stuff like this to be honest, particularly when I don't have remotely the information she had.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:15 PM

17. She hasn't performed live or made an album in years.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 12:23 AM

23. She toured in 2018 and had a Las Vegas concert residency in 2019

I’d say that was pretty recent. Her dad forced her to perform and controlled her dance moves, etc.

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Response to oregonjen (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:13 AM

34. If you say so

I couldn’t possibly care less about Britney. Never really thought she was that talented anyway.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #34)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:23 AM

36. If I say so? All I did was Google the info

Fact check, it’s so easy.

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:26 PM

18. How sick does one have to be

to be denied the right to remove an IUD?

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 01:25 AM

25. Then why is she doing so many shows ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:02 AM

27. Able to perform and able to take care of yourself are not the same thing

I don't think we know enough to say one way or the other.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:03 PM

7. Unbelievable. This is ridiculous already.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:03 PM

8. This is fucking ridiculous.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:07 PM

12. as with everyone else here

I don't remotely know what the female, Democratic judge knew when she made this determination.

She could, of course, still be wrong...but this isn't an old white conservative republican judge fucking over a woman...it's a female Democratic judge making the ruling.

So folks should probably at least ask themselves if maybe it really is the case that Britney Spears is not capable of controlling her own affairs? Just possibly?

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:11 PM

14. Is her father more capable?

Long history of substance abuse issues, allegations of abuse.
Seldom gainfully employed.


It's not like the judge has appointed some sober and wise and objective conservator here.


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Response to dawg day (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:41 PM

19. Apparently the judge thought so

I wasn't there, don't know...she was.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:13 PM

15. why petition for that? just petition to END THE CONSERVATORSHIP.

there's no justification for continuing it.

her dad's holed up in a trailer in Louisiana. It doesn't even sound like he's taking an active role.

LITERALLY WHO IS ENFORCING THESE RESTRICTIONS? who manages the Conservatorship day-to-day?

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:13 PM

16. Maybe there is some evidence or documentation that Spears still has strong issues?

The judge may be aware of more than we are. Spears' part is being aired in public, but that may not be the entire story. The other side may be convincing.

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Response to Nexus2 (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 11:08 PM

21. Me too!

I have strong issues. But that hasn't allowed any one to go into court say I was incapable and then control me for 13 years. How many people haven't had problems. Serious problem. The bad boys of Tinsel town and music go off the deep end and I cant think of one who has been subjected to the treatment she has endured. This reeks of sexism. (chattel, guilded cage, no vote, no credit extended and so on.)

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Response to Nexus2 (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 01:21 AM

24. It would be in the press - the tabloids have been merciless on her.

Their hounding caused her nervous breakdown, which resulted in the conservatorship.

She's 39; she has been a competent Las Vegas entertainer for the entire time. #freebritney

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Response to Nexus2 (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:09 AM

29. She does not need to have her estranged father being the opne in charge

Not at all.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Wed Jun 30, 2021, 10:58 PM

20. It's sort of odd that as a child performer she was better protected form her parents

than as an adult.

I assume she failed to show substantial wrong doing (fraud/physical abuse) by her father and the courts are essentially uncaring and lazy about these matters. It's safest for them to do nothing so that's what they did.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

22. I have a strong feeling....

.... that all the speculation, one way or another, will have the same result as we saw in the jussie Smollett incident.

" maybe if I just stand over here in the corner, don't say a word, and look as small as possible, they will forget what I said, and it will all blow over soon."

Worked in the case of jussie Smollett, so no reason that it won't work here.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 01:31 AM

26. Looking at some of the comments....

...how quickly we forget the shit show that was Brittney Spears when she was managing her own affairs. Non stop paparazzi's, "managers" taking advantage of her, etc. Remember her sudden British accent?

I'm going to bet she wants not just to control her monetary affairs....but her mental health as well, that being, dumping all her pills down the toilet. And we get shit show part 2.

If she just wanted a bit more control on certain things, career wise, think she would have gotten it. But from the sound of things, she just wanted all of it gone.

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Response to Xolodno (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:47 AM

31. She wasn't asking for the conservatorship to be dissolved...

Only that the court appointed professional management company remain as sole conservator. She does not trust her father.

I am having a hard time seeing a justification for this.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:07 AM

28. Appalling

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:11 AM

30. They could find some neutral party

Like a bank, or something. If she does not want him there, there are many others who could do it.

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Response to treestar (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 10:48 AM

32. Did you read the article?

There is a neutral co-conservator she was requesting be the sole conservator.

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Response to RandySF (Original post)

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 11:14 AM

35. "the judge cannot make any ruling based on what she said as she still has yet to file a petition

petition to terminate her conservatorship."

I'm not a lawyer, so I suspect there might be legal strategic limitations the judge can't vacate.

Also, I get that her IUD is important, because a man could legally rob her if a child complicated the picture.

Apparently, she lacks the judgement to legally protect herself from men, and they could take much of her wealth with just a one night stand. She's a target for criminals if she's fertile.

She also said she wants to sue her father and everyone in the conservatorship, so, there are lots of shady slimeballs who would love to help her do that. We have no idea how many men have already tried.

She's clearly vulnerable, as much as I don't like the sound of this. And she's such a high-paying target for criminals.

Sorry, but, I think this isn't as one-sided as Brittney wants it to sound.

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