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Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:26 PM

New Khashoggi revelations show we don't have the full story about his killing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/06/jamal-khashoggi-egypt-saudi-arabia-biden-mbs-full-story/
(With a kick to: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215594159)

Opinion: New Khashoggi revelations show we don’t have the full story about his killing. The Biden administration must disclose what it knows.

Two recent revelations about the murder of Saudi journalist and Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi — including that four members of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s hit team, known as the “Tiger Squad,” received paramilitary training in the United States, and that Egypt allegedly provided them the lethal poison they used to kill Khashoggi — are just tips of an iceberg of information that still remains hidden.

Who else outside of Saudi Arabia was involved in this crime? What did U.S. officials know, and when, about plans to kill him? What else does the Biden administration know that it might not be telling us? Will they question Prince Khalid bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’s former ambassador to the United States and currently its deputy defense minister, during their meetings with him when he comes to Washington this week, about his own role in the murder, including phone records of his communications with Khashoggi?

It’s very hard to believe that American officials were not closely monitoring the U.S.-trained Saudi hit men. They were certainly surveilling the top Saudi echelon: The CIA intercepted 11 WhatsApp messages from MBS to his senior henchman, Saud al-Qahtani, who orchestrated Khashoggi’s killing, in the hours before and after the murder, as well as the calls that the crown prince’s brother Khalid bin Salman made to Khashoggi soliciting him to go to Istanbul.


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Response to erronis (Original post)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:35 PM

1. What did Jared and the old man know and when did they know it?

Wasn't Jared there before the murder happened? I seem to recall something like that. Didn't they stay up all night talking with each other? That would have been a good time to be a mouse...

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:41 PM

4. It Has Also Been Speculated That...

because Kushner, and whoever else was somehow involved, that Ertogan, who knew, blackmailed the TFG into giving him a free hand with the Kurds.

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Response to Me. (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:45 PM

6. Thanks! I'm not nuts, then? I knew there was some speculation going on after that horrible murder.

There's just so much, it's hard to remember all the details.

I'm sure we'd be shocked to know the details of what goes on behind the curtains.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 03:02 PM

7. FRankly A Lot Of It Went Beyond Speculation

There are people who could confirm and some that have done more than hint broadly

And no you're not nuts but in these times it's a miracle all of us aren't

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:38 PM

2. Wasn't It Reported That Recordings Of The Actual Killing Have Been Listened To?

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Response to Me. (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:41 PM

3. Yes, supposedly Turkish spy agency recorded it.

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Response to Me. (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 03:25 PM

8. If so has the CIA or FBI obtained it?

My bets are Kushner and Trump were aiding and abetting.

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Response to triron (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 04:09 PM

12. I Believe They Do

And yes, I believe they gave a thumbs up, at least Kushner. Remember, he reportedly gave classified info to MSB regarding who was working against him in the kingdom and that led to all those arrests, death penalties and prison time for his relatives. And what did Jared get out of the deal? Possibly that rapprochement between the Saudis and Israel which would further Kushner's plan for mideast peace.

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Response to Me. (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 04:30 PM

13. I SERIOUSLY doubt it had anything to do with Mideast peace....

But was more than likely all about the money. Specifically, Kushner getting bailed out of that turd building in NYC he owed tons of dough on:

https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/timeline-on-jared-kushner-qatar-666-fifth-avenue-and-white-house-policy/

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 07:43 PM

16. Jared Was Bailed Out By Qatar Who Was Forced To Do It

“U.S. President Donald Trump and the King of Saudi Arabia Salman bin Abdulaziz spoke by phone this week following a U.S. brokered deal last month under which the United Arab Emirates (UAE) agreed to normalize relations with Israel.

A White House spokesperson said Trump told King Salman that he welcomed the opening of Saudi airspace to flights between Israel and the UAE. The first direct flight of an Israeli commercial airliner, El Al flight 971, was allowed by Riyadh to pass through Saudi airspace carrying Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law who is leading his Middle East policy, as well as other officials from Abu Dhabi and Tel Aviv. A few days later, Saudi Arabia made an announcement, which was reportedly made after the formal request by the UAE, saying that it had also decided to allow all flights between the UAE and Israel to fly over its territory.

During his visit to Abu Dhabi, Kushner stated that he was 100% sure that the other Arab countries would follow the UAE in formalizing ties with Israel. He was fast to travel to Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Qatar and started to put pressure on other Arab countries….”
https://thefrontierpost.com/did-mbs-give-assurance-to-us-of-normalization-with-israel/

Long story short, nothing worked out in the long run except the Qataris were out a lot of money.

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 02:44 PM

5. K& big R#5

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 03:31 PM

9. Nothing will happen, just like 9/11 and the saudis

 

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Response to ansible (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 03:36 PM

10. Yes, except what happened to OBL.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 03:56 PM

11. OBL had crossed way too far to the dark and irretrievable side. MbS - who knows?

There are obviously a lot more strings connecting the puppets and masters than anyone knows - even those thinking they are the masters.

It's pretty obvious the western imperial powers (England, France, Spain, Portugal, USofA, even little Holland) didn't understand how to govern and protect their dominion in a benevolent way. And they had no f'in idea on how to deal with religious fanatics - even more fanatical than the RCs, Protestants, etc.

Mixing power and money and religion and general human stupidity. Light a match and watch the fireworks!

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 04:42 PM

14. Follow the $.

When tRUMP'S *YUGE* LOANS are due or called in by banks when/if he's indicted; Guess who will take pity on him and loan him a billion or so? MBS or MBS via 3rd parties. The depth of grifting and graft of tRUMP and Kushner knows no limits. And, still, my friends he hasn't been held accountable for anything. tick tick tick....

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Response to erronis (Original post)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 04:53 PM

15. didn't a saudi prince

hang a few of the assassins he had ordered to kill kashoggi in the first place? murder his own people to make it look like the saudi's weren't the executioners?

-90% Jimmy

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