Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:24 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
The stinging shot Obama aimed at Romney that no one is talking aboutLast edited Thu Oct 18, 2012, 11:01 AM - Edit history (1)
My favorite question from the audience was a woman who inquired of Romney could he assure her that if elected he would be different from George W. Bush*. Romney made some mealy-mouthed response, but Obama landed a punch on Romney's chin.
(Paraphrasing) There are differences between Mr. Romney and George W. Bush. Bush did not want to voucherize Medicare, he was better on immigration reform, and Bush never proposed defunding Planned Parenthood. I consider Obama's response a true verbal assault on Romney, because in my opinion, there is nothing worse than being compared to George W. Bush* and pale in that comparison. What a heck of an insult, but executed so beautifully. I absolutely loved it. Sam
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Samantha | Oct 2012 | OP |
Nancy Waterman | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
oswaldactedalone | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
Berlum | Oct 2012 | #43 | |
jtuck004 | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
renate | Oct 2012 | #40 | |
Cha | Oct 2012 | #84 | |
newspeak | Oct 2012 | #60 | |
C_U_L8R | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
glinda | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
Mike Daniels | Oct 2012 | #45 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
C_U_L8R | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
Change has come | Oct 2012 | #27 | |
jsr | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
oldhippydude | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
Wounded Bear | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
oldhippydude | Oct 2012 | #36 | |
navarth | Oct 2012 | #57 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
Blanks | Oct 2012 | #56 | |
lob1 | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
spanone | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
lindysalsagal | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
SmileyRose | Oct 2012 | #35 | |
Lone_Star_Dem | Oct 2012 | #58 | |
glinda | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
aint_no_life_nowhere | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #29 | |
JNelson6563 | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #31 | |
Kalidurga | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
Indpndnt | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
rhett o rick | Oct 2012 | #25 | |
Honeycombe8 | Oct 2012 | #26 | |
2theleft | Oct 2012 | #28 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #30 | |
Chorophyll | Oct 2012 | #32 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #46 | |
Whisp | Oct 2012 | #33 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #47 | |
mainstreetonce | Oct 2012 | #73 | |
lobointexas | Oct 2012 | #34 | |
notadmblnd | Oct 2012 | #37 | |
defacto7 | Oct 2012 | #38 | |
SunSeeker | Oct 2012 | #39 | |
KurtNYC | Oct 2012 | #41 | |
madokie | Oct 2012 | #42 | |
brindis_desala | Oct 2012 | #44 | |
rosesaylavee | Oct 2012 | #48 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #49 | |
DallasNE | Oct 2012 | #50 | |
WilliamPitt | Oct 2012 | #51 | |
jjewell | Oct 2012 | #65 | |
WilliamPitt | Oct 2012 | #66 | |
lobointexas | Oct 2012 | #77 | |
WilliamPitt | Oct 2012 | #82 | |
rational_pi | Oct 2012 | #52 | |
WCGreen | Oct 2012 | #53 | |
amborin | Oct 2012 | #54 | |
Blue Owl | Oct 2012 | #55 | |
Maineman | Oct 2012 | #59 | |
Wait Wut | Oct 2012 | #61 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #79 | |
annabanana | Oct 2012 | #62 | |
Quantess | Oct 2012 | #63 | |
Uncle Joe | Oct 2012 | #64 | |
TheKentuckian | Oct 2012 | #67 | |
heaven05 | Oct 2012 | #68 | |
Lochloosa | Oct 2012 | #69 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #78 | |
Chevy | Oct 2012 | #70 | |
Lilyeye | Oct 2012 | #71 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #80 | |
Lilyeye | Oct 2012 | #86 | |
mzmolly | Oct 2012 | #72 | |
Bob Loblaw | Oct 2012 | #74 | |
Samantha | Oct 2012 | #81 | |
mstinamotorcity2 | Oct 2012 | #75 | |
wtmusic | Oct 2012 | #76 | |
Bucky | Oct 2012 | #83 | |
lonestarnot | Oct 2012 | #85 |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:25 PM
Nancy Waterman (6,407 posts)
1. One of them any high points of the debate
Good to point this one out. I loved it!!
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Response to Nancy Waterman (Reply #1)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:30 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
9. I couldn't believe it
It was just so damn perfect, and said with such aplomb by President Obama.
Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:25 PM
oswaldactedalone (3,431 posts)
2. Truth
That was beautiful!!
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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #2)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:33 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
12. It was unbelievably beautiful
I have been here for 10 years, and I came here ranting and raving about George W. Bush*. There is no one I despise more. And for Obama to compare Romney to Bush, with Bush coming off better, was simply priceless. I wish I knew where to write that woman to thank her for that question....
Sam |
Response to Samantha (Reply #12)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:30 AM
Berlum (7,044 posts)
43. Bush, as pathetically sad & dangerous a case as he was, was better than Willard can ever hope to be
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:26 PM
jtuck004 (15,882 posts)
3. That was excellent. n/t
Response to jtuck004 (Reply #3)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:34 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
14. I think it was beyond excellent
I am not sure there is a word for it. But as I keep saying, I absolutely loved it.
Thanks for posting on my thread. Sam |
Response to Samantha (Reply #14)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:42 AM
renate (13,775 posts)
40. meta-excellent?
It was jiu-jitsu, anyway.
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Response to renate (Reply #40)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 09:51 PM
Cha (286,350 posts)
84. MEGA BRILLIANT! nm
Response to jtuck004 (Reply #3)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:08 PM
newspeak (4,847 posts)
60. little boots gave the people "big pharma screw the elderly bill"
which increased the deficit, gave a windfall to big pharma and the donut hole to the elderly who can't afford it. little boots and his band of merry, corrupt con artists attempted to privatize SS, so WS could even scam more of our money.
however, at this point economically, if robme is elected he'll attempt to privatize the shite out of the government for his corrupt, sociopathic friends; i mean after all, government doesn't create jobs. i'd say, robme is little boots II, with randian ryan, and would probably turn the country into a corporate feudalistic state. |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:28 PM
C_U_L8R (43,880 posts)
4. I'd suggest one addition to our Presidents answer
And that is pointing out that nearly all of Rmoneys staff and advisors are the same old Bush cronies that screwed up this country. If you want to relive the nightmare of the Bush years on steroids then Mitt Rmoney is your man.
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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #4)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:33 PM
glinda (14,807 posts)
13. I hope he mentions that next time. I was waiting for it.
Response to glinda (Reply #13)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:36 AM
Mike Daniels (5,842 posts)
45. Could be used next week since Bush's foreign escapades weren't smashing successes either
Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #4)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:37 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
18. In way you are correct, but the way he did it
was a double whammy: he insulted Romney by saying he was worse than Bush* AND he slipped in the voucherizing of Medicare. Twas a beautiful thing to behold.
Thanks for posting on my thread. Sam |
Response to Samantha (Reply #18)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:45 PM
C_U_L8R (43,880 posts)
24. Totally agree
And thanks for starting this thread
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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #4)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:47 PM
Change has come (2,372 posts)
27. Bingo!
I'm sure we'll hear that next Monday. That should be the nail in the coffin
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:28 PM
jsr (7,712 posts)
5. From transcript:
But the last point I want to make is this. You know, there are some things where Governor Romney’s different from George Bush. George Bush didn’t propose turning Medicare into a voucher. George Bush embraced comprehensive immigration reform. He didn’t call for self-deportation. George Bush never suggested that we eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood.
So there are differences between Governor Romney and George Bush, but they’re not on economic policy. In some ways, he’s gone to a more extreme place when it comes to social policy, and I think that’s a mistake. That’s not how we’re going to move our economy forward. |
Response to jsr (Reply #5)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:31 PM
oldhippydude (2,514 posts)
10. actually W did want to privatize SS..
then dropped it like a hot potatoe... Ryan picked it up and ran with it..
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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #10)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:35 PM
Wounded Bear (55,949 posts)
15. But he didn't address Medicare....
Probably because of his SS proposal sinking like a lead life preserver.
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #15)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:37 AM
oldhippydude (2,514 posts)
36. your right..I heard ss... when what was said was medicare..
my bad
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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #10)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:54 AM
navarth (5,927 posts)
57. 'potatoe'? nice Quayle reference there bud
I caught it, well done.
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Response to jsr (Reply #5)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:40 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
21. I knew there wa a third thing, but I could not read my penmanship
Thanks for supplying the entire quote.
I decided to take notes myself on Romney lies from the very beginning. I had so many notes, I soon realized I couldn't continue. Sam |
Response to jsr (Reply #5)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:41 AM
Blanks (4,835 posts)
56. George W. Bush: Historians rank him as the worst president ever.
Yet, Obama demonstrated that a president Romney would push Dubya into 2nd place.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:28 PM
lob1 (3,820 posts)
6. It was a "Rocky" moment.
Response to lob1 (Reply #6)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:41 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
22. It certainly was
Thanks for your contribution to this thread.
Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:30 PM
lindysalsagal (19,276 posts)
8. Not the kind of answer or question he was probably expecting.
I'd love to know if it was improvised. Impressive.
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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #8)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:26 AM
SmileyRose (4,854 posts)
35. Oh I think that woman was a plant
Look at the tape at the end when Willard is pretending to make nice with the 100%. The woman who asked that question got all smoochieface with Ann. They obviously know each other.
I think she was a ringer intended to give Willard a foil for killing the meme a out going back to the policies that got us in this mess. Problem is they forgot Willard is an even worse dud than whistleass. |
Response to SmileyRose (Reply #35)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:59 AM
Lone_Star_Dem (28,158 posts)
58. I've read she said this morning she is voting Obama.
She didn't like the way Romney kept having to be in charge of the debate last night. She found him you aggressive.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:32 PM
glinda (14,807 posts)
11. I agree. And he was swift with that answer also! lol!
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:35 PM
aint_no_life_nowhere (21,925 posts)
16. Worse than Bush - SMACK !
Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #16)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:54 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
29. Do you think the woman who asked that question had read this article
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77150.html
George W. Bush lease popular living ex-president, polls show Well probably not, she just lived those years and remembers had bad they were. In 2009, when he left office, his poll numbers were mid-thirties. (I am surprised they were that high). Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:36 PM
JNelson6563 (28,151 posts)
17. Yes, that was superbly done.
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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #17)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:08 AM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
31. Can you believe that none of the commentators are talking about this?
Well, none that I have heard.
Thanks for posting on my thread. Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:39 PM
Kalidurga (14,177 posts)
19. Romney would be worse than Bush...
He wants to lower taxes and eliminate all safety nets and at the same time make abortion illegal and birth control difficult to get.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:40 PM
Indpndnt (2,391 posts)
20. I was rolling when the President said that! Worse than Dumbya!
Now that's quite an achievement!
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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #20)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:45 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
23. I was too
and it really takes something to get a response like that from me. I think it might just be the best insult I have heard in the last couple of years since the campaign started.
Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:46 PM
rhett o rick (55,981 posts)
25. Very well delivered. nm
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:47 PM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
26. I missed that. Probably my dogs barking. That was great response. nt
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:50 PM
2theleft (1,136 posts)
28. it was PERFECT
When he first started, I was like "WHAT IS HE DOING???" and then, BOOM! Just perfect, brilliant, and with flawless delivery.
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Response to 2theleft (Reply #28)
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:56 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
30. It was a flawless delivery and I am sure Romney
never saw it coming.
Thanks for posting on my thread. Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:09 AM
Chorophyll (5,179 posts)
32. It was absolutely brilliant. nt
Response to Chorophyll (Reply #32)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:54 AM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
46. It was, Chorophyll
Additionally, Romney had no rebuttal for President Obama's words. He just looked a little stunned. I don't think he saw this coming.
Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:10 AM
Whisp (24,096 posts)
33. when George Jr looks good compared to Romney...
masterful.
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Response to Whisp (Reply #33)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:56 AM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
47. Wasn't it masterful
It is the supreme political insult to be compared to Bush* and look worse in the comparison. I think President Obama outdid himself on this one because he delivered the line with such aplomb.
Sam |
Response to Whisp (Reply #33)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:21 PM
mainstreetonce (4,178 posts)
73. The idiot. Looks good
Compared to the psychopath
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:17 AM
lobointexas (84 posts)
34. I agree wholeheartedly !!
I never thought I'd see someone worse than Bush running for President.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:38 AM
notadmblnd (23,720 posts)
37. Oh Mitt ran from the Bush comparison then the Prez got on
and made it sound like Mitt is worse than Bush.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:18 AM
SunSeeker (49,594 posts)
39. K and freakin' R
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:55 AM
KurtNYC (14,549 posts)
41. Yes. I wanted him to tie Romney to Bush more strongly and this question
and Obama's answer did it! I thought that was what "Forward" sets up -- a contrast with backward Romney and his proposed return to the policies and practices that got us into this mess.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:59 AM
madokie (51,076 posts)
42. Obama is true to his words
A few days ago he told us, I got this.
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Response to madokie (Reply #42)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 06:42 AM
brindis_desala (907 posts)
44. It was a thing of beauty
It shows the parlous state of our punditry. Those were the choice lines of the debate virtually ignored. But kudos to Candi Crowley Someone finally called out Mitten's lies.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:33 AM
rosesaylavee (12,126 posts)
48. Romney looked stunned
Apparently they hadn't covered that possibility in his debate prep.
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Response to rosesaylavee (Reply #48)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:03 AM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
49. He did, didn't he?
No one had prepared him for this topic and he had no where to go.
It seemed to me the more the debate wore on, the more irritable Mitt became. A couple of times it looked like he was ready to just let go. It was about time someone put him in his place, and President Obama did a wonderful job. Thanks for posting on my thread. Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:57 AM
DallasNE (7,275 posts)
50. Very Effective
Obama tied Romney to Bush on economic policy but compared him unfavorably on Medicare, immigration and a social issue. Ouch. The worst of both worlds.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 10:57 AM
WilliamPitt (58,179 posts)
51. I did
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/12149-when-the-president-comes-to-town
Might have been my favorite part. ![]() |
Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #51)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:44 PM
jjewell (618 posts)
65. Read your piece...
Beautiful. A must read...
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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #51)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 04:42 PM
lobointexas (84 posts)
77. I read it too...
Well done Mr. Pitt.
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Response to lobointexas (Reply #77)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:36 PM
WilliamPitt (58,179 posts)
82. Thanks!
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:01 AM
rational_pi (23 posts)
52. When GWB heard this
"There are differences between Mr. Romney and George W. Bush. Bush did not want to voucherize Medicare and he was better on immigration"
He jumped around and did a high Five with Jeb, and said out loud "You Da Man Obama", None wants to be compared with Rmony and come out worse. |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:03 AM
WCGreen (45,558 posts)
53. Exactly!!!
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:15 AM
amborin (16,631 posts)
54. another great moment
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:35 AM
Blue Owl (44,876 posts)
55. President Obama knows those two better than themselves
n/t
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:03 PM
Maineman (854 posts)
59. This is the number one thing I remembered about the debate.
I think Obama listed three great examples of how Romney is worse than George W. Very powerful.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
Wait Wut (8,492 posts)
61. I caught that and said to the husband...
..."Omg. That was cruel! He just made Bush look better than Romney!!!"
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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #61)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:55 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
79. Yes, he did
He made Romney look to the right of Bush. Who could imagine that....
Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:26 PM
annabanana (52,791 posts)
62. It's like when we compare Romney to a turd, and then
apologize to turds.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:39 PM
Quantess (27,630 posts)
63. A zinger!
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 12:39 PM
Uncle Joe (55,597 posts)
64. That was my favorite question of the night as well and I agree that was a most excellent
response from Obama.
Romney damn sure didn't want to be compared to Bush, he pretended with his answers that Bush nor his policies ever existed, with Romney everything that's bad or negative began "four years ago" under Obama. So I was most pleased with that question from the lady in the audience. Thanks for the thread, Samantha. ![]() |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:00 PM
TheKentuckian (23,947 posts)
67. He drop kicked Weird WilLIARd right in the teeth on that one.
Pure gold!
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:06 PM
heaven05 (18,124 posts)
68. yeah!
you are on the money. A truly masterful punch to the jaw. ten-four Sam. Our Prez knocked some teeth out with that one and mittytwit didn't feel the pain until today.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:07 PM
Lochloosa (15,553 posts)
69. I am K/R this just so you can tell me.......
"Thanks for posting to my thread"....
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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #69)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:52 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
78. Thank you so much for posting to my thread
It was a pleasure running into you!
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:38 PM
Lilyeye (1,417 posts)
71. That was one of the best responses of the night
Of course the lame stream media has largely ignored it. Silly me for thinking it would be considered a top moment.
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Response to Lilyeye (Reply #71)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 05:57 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
80. It certainly was the moment I enjoyed the most
That was a heck of an insult, and the delivery was sublime.
Thanks for posting to my thread. Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 02:41 PM
mzmolly (50,316 posts)
72. It was a fabulous
moment, agreed.
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:26 PM
Bob Loblaw (1,900 posts)
74. favorite moments
I had to work until 9 last night and didn't get to my car until some time after. The first thing I heard when I turned the debate on was the President saying (and I'm paraphrasing) "Most of what Mr. Romney just said simply isn't true."
I said to noone in particular (since I was alone) "Thank you!" |
Response to Bob Loblaw (Reply #74)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 07:48 PM
Samantha (9,314 posts)
81. That is pretty funny
I think we Dems needed as many laughs as we could get. It has been aggravating that the Republicans get away with wholesale lying every day, and most commentators do not correct them.
Thank you for posting on my thread. Sam |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:29 PM
mstinamotorcity2 (1,451 posts)
75. mine was when he called
that trick an etch a sketch artist to his face. You wouldn't make such a sketchy deal!!!!!
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Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:41 PM
wtmusic (39,166 posts)
76. IMO all of Obama's answers were prepared
and that's not to slight them in any way.
He had done his homework, and they were executed beautifully. That's how great lawyers win tough court cases. |
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 08:37 PM
Bucky (52,541 posts)
83. But it's true! Bush was disgusting, but at least he HAD and held to his own beliefs.
Response to Samantha (Original post)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 09:53 PM
lonestarnot (77,097 posts)
85. I love Mr. President! Flipped him off in his pocket!