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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 07:29 AM Jul 2021

Trump told chief of staff Hitler 'did a lot of good things', book says

On a visit to Europe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of the first world war, Donald Trump insisted to his then chief of staff, John Kelly: “Well, Hitler did a lot of good things.”
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But Bender says unnamed sources reported that Kelly “told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred”, emphasizing German economic recovery under Hitler during the 1930s.

“Kelly pushed back again,” Bender writes, “and argued that the German people would have been better off poor than subjected to the Nazi genocide.”

Bender adds that Kelly told Trump that even if his claim about the German economy under the Nazis after 1933 were true, “you cannot ever say anything supportive of Adolf Hitler. You just can’t.”
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Senior officials described his understanding of slavery, Jim Crow, or the Black experience in general post-civil war as vague to nonexistent,” he writes. “But Trump’s indifference to Black history was similar to his disregard for the history of any race, religion or creed.”

[link:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/06/donald-trump-hitler-michael-bender-book|]
Emphasis mine.

Nazi be nazi. Nasty be nasty. How the actual fuck did this vilest and shallowest example of humanity become the leader of the conservative movement in the free world?!?! Yuck.
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Trump told chief of staff Hitler 'did a lot of good things', book says (Original Post) Soph0571 Jul 2021 OP
Unbelievable: Entitled, ignorant and criminal to the core. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #1
Well, didn't Hitler make the trains run on time? --- oh sorry, 3Hotdogs Jul 2021 #2
My Austrian mother used to go to Italy on vacation during the 1930s Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2021 #19
Very revealing... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #3
Make no mistake. Trump is a Hitler loving Nazi. Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2021 #4
The Nazis rebuilt the German economy to support their wars of conquest. Girard442 Jul 2021 #5
Actually, Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht, the Nazi economics minister in the 1930s Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2021 #20
When McConnell and McCarthy protect Trump... Kid Berwyn Jul 2021 #6
Bottom line - drumpf is a fascist and loves him some Hitler. lark Jul 2021 #7
Let's see, I guess to the Orange Vulgarian, Ilsa Jul 2021 #8
Please, enlighten us O Bloated One Blue Owl Jul 2021 #9
Trump says Trump did a lot of great things. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #10
You are sure to hear that a lot more... lame54 Jul 2021 #11
He's a crook seta1950 Jul 2021 #12
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Initech Jul 2021 #13
In response to your question... Caliman73 Jul 2021 #14
More discussion on an earlier thread: TexasTowelie Jul 2021 #15
Trump was always a shitty student. oldsoftie Jul 2021 #16
9/2015 Business Insider, Trump's interest in Hitler had been known from before the 2016 election. Botany Jul 2021 #17
I can only imagine his reaction when asked about this. mnmoderatedem Jul 2021 #18

3Hotdogs

(12,369 posts)
2. Well, didn't Hitler make the trains run on time? --- oh sorry,
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 08:03 AM
Jul 2021

actually, that was Michael Quinn. Google Michael Quinn NYC

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
19. My Austrian mother used to go to Italy on vacation during the 1930s
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jul 2021

She told me that the Italian trains did not run on time.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
3. Very revealing...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 08:28 AM
Jul 2021

... about Crooked Donald. What is "a lot" when listing Hitler's good things? I can think of millions of bad things... I wonder why it's important for The Donald to think Hitler did may good things?

Girard442

(6,067 posts)
5. The Nazis rebuilt the German economy to support their wars of conquest.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 09:29 AM
Jul 2021

If you ignore the why, the economic resurgence could look good by itself.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
20. Actually, Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht, the Nazi economics minister in the 1930s
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 12:04 PM
Jul 2021

Reestablished the German economy through three means: A massive public works program, which among other things built the autobahns; Hitler's renunciation of reparations payments; and slight of hand (see "mefo bills&quot .

lark

(23,091 posts)
7. Bottom line - drumpf is a fascist and loves him some Hitler.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 10:56 AM
Jul 2021

According to one of his exs, the book of Hitlers' speeches is the only thing TFG ever read and he read it every night for 10 years. He s a Hitler wannabe and he and the fascist party (RNC) and the judiciary now in charge and trying to subvert democracy to put in the system most favored and favorable to the rich - nazism.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
8. Let's see, I guess to the Orange Vulgarian,
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 11:06 AM
Jul 2021

not shitting your pants on a daily basis is a good thing.

I could name a few others, but the bar is so low, slugs can cross over it.

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
14. In response to your question...
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 01:20 PM
Jul 2021
Nazi be nazi. Nasty be nasty. How the actual fuck did this vilest and shallowest example of humanity become the leader of the conservative movement in the free world?!?!


Conservatism is prone to move rightward. Conservatism is founded upon the belief that a natural hierarchy exists among humans, as with other animals, and that those at the top are meant to lead. Conservatism started off as a defense of monarchy. When monarchy fell, conservatives did not pack it in, they simply changed the narrative as to Who deserved to be at the top. Fascism is an extreme right ideology that takes conservatism to its logical conclusion. Fascism follows a hyper-national, typically racialized narrative about a group, or country's history and glory, and their betrayal by "others". That narrative allows a dominant group (White people) to justify maltreatment of minorities and degenerates in order to re-establish the "natural" hierarchy based on the "glorious past". Trump is following this trajectory and Republicans/Conservatives are just following their inclination.

oldsoftie

(12,527 posts)
16. Trump was always a shitty student.
Wed Jul 7, 2021, 08:16 PM
Jul 2021

Everyone should know that. Instead they push fake memes about "top of class" bullshit

Botany

(70,488 posts)
17. 9/2015 Business Insider, Trump's interest in Hitler had been known from before the 2016 election.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 08:22 AM
Jul 2021

9/2015 Business Insider, Trump's interest in Hitler had been known from before the 2016 election.
But did we hear about this? No, but we heard 24/7 about Hillary, her emails, and her email server.

Sadly I think at least 50% of Trump supporters are totally fine with Trump getting "tips from Hitler."
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Business Insider
Sep 1, 2015, 8:25 AM

Donald Trump's ex-wife once said Trump kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed

According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed.

"Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed ... Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist," Marie Brenner wrote.

Hitler was one of history's most prolific orators, building a genocidal Nazi regime with speeches that bewitched audiences.

"He learned how to become a charismatic speaker, and people, for whatever reason, became enamored with him," Professor Bruce Loebs, who has taught a class called the Rhetoric of Hitler and Churchill for the past 46 years at Idaho State University, told Business Insider earlier this year.

"People were most willing to follow him, because he seemed to have the right answers in a time of enormous economic upheaval."


https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

mnmoderatedem

(3,724 posts)
18. I can only imagine his reaction when asked about this.
Thu Jul 8, 2021, 08:50 AM
Jul 2021

reporter: Mr. Trump, is it true you said Hitler did some good things?

Trump: I don't know Hitler.

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