Fully vaccinated people don't need Covid boosters, U.S. health agencies say

[babylonsister]

OK, who do we believe? I wonder if boosters are solely a money-making opportunity.

Fully vaccinated people don't need Covid boosters, U.S. health agencies say
NBC Universal
Jamie Knodel
July 8, 2021, 8:55 PM


People who are fully vaccinated do not need Covid-19 boosters, health and drug officials said Thursday.

"We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed," the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a joint statement.

The agencies said those who are vaccinated are protected from variants, including the surging delta variant. But they urged Americans 12 and older who have not yet been vaccinated to get their shots.

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[luvs2sing]

1. My question..

how many trump appointees are still left in the FDA and CDC? Can we trust them again..yet?

[JohnSJ]

5. This AOL headline is misleading. The FDA/CDC are effectively saying that the EUA approval will

have to go through the appropriate EUA process, that is what both the CDC and FDA used the word "Yet", in there original press release. It isn't ready yet, and won't be until at least August, where we will understand exactly where we stand

[lagomorph777]

16. +1 Not YET. Also, difference between "booster" and "update."

As the 3rd world (including MAGA world) breeds more variants, eventually a variant will emerge which requires a whole new vaccine. That would be an update, not a booster.

[Pobeka]

25. PLEASE folks, read what JohnSJ wrote -- "yet" is important.

Thanks JohnSJ. I heard the report on NPR this am and also heard "yet.

Thank you!

[muriel_volestrangler]

27. No, by you saying "effectively", you're trying to read more into it than is there

The headline is a more straightforward summary of what they said than your interpretation.

"We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed," the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said in a joint statement.
...
The FDA, the CDC and the National Institutes of Health "are engaged in a science-based, rigorous process to consider whether or when a booster might be necessary," the groups said in their statement. "This process takes into account laboratory data, clinical trial data, and cohort data — which can include data from specific pharmaceutical companies, but does not rely on those data exclusively. We continue to review any new data as it becomes available and will keep the public informed."

(The only use of 'yet' in the press release is "We encourage Americans who have not yet been vaccinated to get vaccinated as soon as possible ...

[JohnSJ]

2. F**k the news media. That is an intentionally misleading headline. What the FDA and CDC

actually said was that Americans do not need booster shots YET

That Pfizer, and I suspect Moderna and other vaccine makers are working on boosters against the emerging variants, that according to Pfizer/BionTec, won't be ready until August, where it will be submitted for EUA approval/

It will be all data driven.

The most important thing is to get as many people as possible vaccinated as quickly as possible.

[Scrivener7]

3. These convoluted messages are dangerous. If the boosters against the variants are not needed,

how would the science demonstrate that they are needed? They are or they aren't.

If we don't yet know, they should not be making statements that pretend we do. This silly, silly statement tries to cover it's ass for both eventualities.

[JohnSJ]

6. Exactly, but the headline is intentionally misleading, to make the message appear even more

convoluted than it is

What the FDA and CDC statement actually said was "Americans do not need booster shots yet"

That is a factual statement, because in has to go through a process for EUA approval, and exactly what variants the booster will work against.

[Scrivener7]

8. But even that is misleading. The truth is that we don't yet know if we need boosters.

It's not that we don't need them yet. It's that we don't know if the ones being developed will be effective and safe against the current strains.

And we don't know how effective the current vaccines are against the current strains because different countries are having wildly different experiences with Delta.

So they just shouldn't have said anything. Because we just don't know!

[JohnSJ]

12. I agree. A big problem is there are significantly large numbers of people worldwide who have

not been vaccinated, which contributes to the confusion, along with differences in the efficacies between the mRNA vaccines verses the others

[lagomorph777]

18. It's not yet possible to know. It is safe to assume we WILL need updates.

[Scrivener7]

23. I said pretty much the same upthread. We don't know. It is not unlikely that we will

need them, but right now we just don't know.

[lagomorph777]

24. +1

[niyad]

4. ao-hell still exists?

[Yavin4]

7. Yes. Trump's new legal team used their AOL addresses in their briefs against Facebook.

I can't find that thread, but it's around here some where.

[niyad]

10. Wow. He really has the best people.

[JohnSJ]

13. yup

[Lovie777]

9. Well hell . ...

vaccine makers still need to invest in COVID-19 boosters.

[FBaggins]

11. If you haven't been vaccinated... then they wouldn't BE "boosters"

So this really just says that at this point, booster development is speculative because they may not be needed.

Which is fine… since I doubt that anyone wants them to hold off on development until after the need is identified.

[JohnSJ]

14. There sure would be less chance for variants to take hold

[FBaggins]

22. No particular reason to think so

The existing vaccines are either effective against a new variant or they aren’t… and they can’t effectively target a variant until it “takes hold” enough to know that it’s a threat. Add on The months that it takes to develop and distribute that targeted booster and the variant either has or hasn’t already spread.

[Ms. Toad]

15. I wish they would stop making announcements until after the dust settles.

Like a cat watching a ping-pong match . . .

[lagomorph777]

19. Where the "ball" is a live mouse.

[Ms. Toad]

21. Pretty much.

[JoanofArgh]

17. I'll be getting my booster shot.

If you haven’t been vaccinated the shot isn’t called a “ booster”

[Sherman A1]

20. I suspect that thinking may change

as time and the virus move along.

[hlthe2b]

26. We don't need them YET. There really is no conflict. Pfizer is preparing for the possibility

of reduced efficacy (with time) against Delta. But right now those fully vaccinated are considered protected and there is no recommendation for additional boosters YET. CDC and its expert advisory committee ACIP will reevaluate on a regular basis.

[LizBeth]

28. I am confident data will come along to allow us to make an informed decision.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

29. Americans who have been fully vaccinated don't need a booster shot at this time,

Link to tweet

[krawhitham]

30. YET, same thing pfizer is saying really

Pfizer says it wants booster after 6 months after being fully vaccinated

CDC says "We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed"


Bet this "need" will be about 6 months after most have been fully vaccinated