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Forced pregnancies and neighbours legislating every womans wombs is the future for every woman in Texas. Inform on your neighbours reproductive choices and get a bounty how very very Nazi after all Hitler loved getting neighbours and families to report on each other.
Apart from this just being abhorrent on its face, have they given any thought to the fact that for the vast majority of people $10k is a large amount of money. Never mind the far right trying to find cases for cruelty and under his eye giggles, what about all those people who think accusing someone of this crime is an easy way to make a few bucks and never mind the impact on the medical professionals and women involved.
Just when you think they cannot get more hideous SURPRISE!
no_hypocrisy
(46,067 posts)women will be forced to go to medical clinics and/or doctors to confirm a pregnancy which will be recorded and her name sent to the State.
BTW, how does that $10K bounty work anyway? If you can get an abortion up to 6 weeks, then according to this new law, you can have it. Why would a third party collect the reward money? If you're 6+ weeks, wouldn't it be unlawful for a medical facility to perform an abortion, so why pay $10K? Is the $10K for third party who turns in a pregnant women attempting to leave the state with an embryo/fetus that obviously belongs to Texas, not the woman?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)... women of colour more than not, women who do not have much access to health care or money for it and are less likely to know being pregnant.
FakeNoose
(32,620 posts)But I agree with you that $10K bounty is asking for trouble. All sorts of ugliness is going to ensue, including blackmail and other forms of coercion.
no_hypocrisy
(46,067 posts)You're 16. You're knocked up. Nobody knows but your home pregnancy test. You tell a girlfriend who can't keep a secret. She tells another who wants that $10K. You're turned into the authorities. You have the baby and they have the $10K.
FakeNoose
(32,620 posts)Turn in the girlfriend and get a pretty nice payday.
This bounty law is a disaster in the making.
no_hypocrisy
(46,067 posts)end up with child support.
FakeNoose
(32,620 posts)obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)moose65
(3,166 posts)be.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)We all may be called upon to find a little June in each of us at some point.
calimary
(81,194 posts)Forced pregnancy or else. And people voted for this bastard
Volaris
(10,269 posts)Should apply to reporting your neighbors who wont go get their fucking covid shots. Because fuck these people, that's why.
Yes, your honor, I'd like you to order the state to give me my 100k, since all 10 of my immediate coworkers are abject morons.
bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)Sure-lock homes, procreation detective at your service
When will they focus on men? Because, if men don't put it in the right place, you know, it's sort of an aborted path, isn't it?
bringthePaine
(1,727 posts)COL Mustard
(5,896 posts)But we take all Federal property with us or demand compensation. Take out all the Military bases and assets, and all the National Guard equipment, make them pay for all Federal buildings, hey...what could go wrong?
I'm serious.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)They have it backwards. Vaccinating is about the "body politic" -- the public body, public health. Not so much a personal choice as a public choice.
Pregnancy is about one person's body, the woman's body. Her choice.
But Texas RepuliQons are science-hating bigots.
Best_man23
(4,897 posts)If people choose to do or say nothing. This is what the Republicants and the GQP want to bring to America.
KS Toronado
(17,189 posts)multigraincracker
(32,661 posts)get a European vacation. That's how it use to work.
no_hypocrisy
(46,067 posts)I've known neighbors who called the Police regarding other neighbors having marital arguments and the results have been the imposition of restraining orders when there was no violence, no fear, no nothing. (The fighting couples were doing just that - fighting.) Imagine Gladys Kravitz (Bewitched) filling up her days calling in for pregnant neighbors and going "Ca-Ching!" as she hangs up.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)...
The Blue Flower
(5,439 posts)Will they be checking to make sure you bought tampons or pads this month?
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)and was so disgusted I couldnt watch the other seasons. I sis, however, mention to my wife and 2 adult daughters that the story is really not that far fetched. My wife thought I was being ridiculous but it looks like Republican run states are seriously trying to return to a time when women have no rights. I went to law school in Texas in the 80s and loved it but these Christian fascists were nit the dominate force.
COL Mustard
(5,896 posts)Neighbors informing on neighbors...been done before.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,316 posts)suit against the clinic, the doctor or the person getting the abortion. It's not nearly as easy as calling the cops, but what it does to is establish a disturbing precedent by divesting local authorities of their law-enforcement duties and leaving it to individuals. It's ugly, and it's got wider implications than just abortion access.
lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)Up to the judges to shut this crap down.
LymphocyteLover
(5,641 posts)It's just astounding any lawmaker could pass this evil thing, but they are Republicans after all.
AZ8theist
(5,452 posts)....is "suspected" of having an abortion.
Problem solved.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,316 posts)Republicans' wives, you'll probably end up with a frivolous lawsuit issue. The whole setup is diabolical.
AZ8theist
(5,452 posts)If enough Repukes find themselves defending their wives in court, maybe they will realize this NAZI law has backfired.
lindysalsagal
(20,648 posts)I'm serious. This will become a funding war. On both sides. This will finally activate the silent bystanders to activate anti-church pacs. Freedom From Religion might lead the way.
soldierant
(6,846 posts)Surely a pool of plaintiffs can be built for a good cause.
wnylib
(21,422 posts)PatSeg
(47,370 posts)marble falls
(57,063 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)When they make our oppression legal, they break the social contract. Any degree of oppression is an attack. They've shown their hearts and minds, no point in trying to reason with them.
ancianita
(36,017 posts)flying_wahini
(6,588 posts)Blue Owl
(50,347 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,868 posts)If it did go into effect, I would imagine major boycotts and sanctions against Texas
from citizens and companies.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Always punitive.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Bettie
(16,086 posts)an abortion, they can turn you in?
WTF is wrong....never mind. Assholes who think they need to punish women for having sex.
electric_blue68
(14,862 posts)Having watched THT (and read the book in the '80s)...
My mind wants to reject this!
Hopefully the courts....
Boycotts... Etc
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NullTuples
(6,017 posts)1. Law goes into effect
2. National, well funded Christian group on the Gov's speed dial immediately files a claim against a clinic
3. ACLU takes them to court, hold gets put on enforcement of the law
4. Bounty gets paid to Christian group helping to fund their court fight, paid by taxpayers.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)The offer as I understand it is that they receive the $10,000 if they report and successfully bring about a suit. Its a huge risk for an individual, but I can easily imagine anti-abortion organizations backing people who do. Its horrific.
musette_sf
(10,200 posts)have very deep pockets and are very stealthily funded. They will be quite willing to spend much, much more than $10K to get an actual bounty successfully paid out. The fodder for their propaganda hate sites and social media accounts will be worth (to them) whatever they have to pay to prop up a successful bounty payment.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)In a state that is rapidly turning purple is....interesting....to say the least.
Texas is just California but 30ish years behind. 30 years from now a republican being elected statewide in Texas will be unimaginable. Moves like this will speed that up as new arrivals and suburban voters will further revolt. Republicans can't win in places like this by purely appealing to rural voters. We already see that happening in Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Virginia, and Colorado. North Carolia and Texas are ahead on that list
tclambert
(11,085 posts)they wanted to implement. I have the same worry about "The Purge" movies.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)It's the natural progression from their ideology/religion.
sanatanadharma
(3,695 posts)Hence forward, in Texas every once-was pregnant woman will have had a miscarriage and (with HIPPA) it can't be proved otherwise.
Texas will be known as an unsafe state with an unexplained high incidence of miscarriage.
This law is all hat and no cattle because no one except the women and the medical professionals can know an abortion occurred.
Without valid knowledge, legally obtained, who can petition the courts without admitting a crime?
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)they most likely wrote and fueled this law through the legislature. They will turn it into their new Crusade.
Abbott is just keeping the right-wing Christian contributions flowing to GOP coffers.....
As others have said, this law is unlikely to pass muster in the courts but the GOP does not care. They've scored their points with all the Rethug minions and will get their votes on election day.
KY......