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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 08:35 AM Jul 2021

Why is Tucker Carlson still on the air?

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/7/17/2040402/-Why-is-Tucker-Carlson-still-on-the-air

Why is Tucker Carlson still on the air?
Mark Sumner
Daily Kos Staff
Saturday July 17, 2021 · 11:37 AM EDT



Honestly, a better question might be “Why is Tucker Carlson not in jail?”

On Friday night, Carlson was back on Fox News to welcome COVID-19-”truther” Alex Barenson to his program. Together, the two said that “masks are useless” and nothing more than a symbol that someone is obedient to the government, and claimed that mask mandates have no intention other than to make people scared, and are doing “psychological damage.” They then moved on to say that the vaccines are "declining in effectiveness very quickly," and that the truth about vaccines was being blocked by “tremendous financial pressure.”

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In May 2021 alone, over 18,000 Americans died of COVID-19. Of those who died, only about 150 were people who had been vaccinated. In the same month, more than 107,000 Americans were hospitalized for severe illness attributed to COVID-19. Only 1% of those people had been vaccinated.

It may be too much to charge Tucker Carlson directly with 18,000 counts of manslaughter for his actions over the course of that month, but there is one thing certain: What Carlson is doing is much closer to the actions of Branham or Carter than it is to the teens laughing over the Tide Pod challenge. The frozen food heir is fully aware of the consequences of his actions, He is fully aware of the falseness of his claims. He is fully culpable in the deaths of thousands of Americans.

This is not a case of a broadcaster repeating a mistaken claim, or someone rushing forward with information that is incomplete. Carlson is deliberately, frequently, and constantly providing disinformation to the public that generates real and lasting harm—including death on a massive scale.

There may be no prosecutor in the country willing to charge Carlson for his involvements in these days—though honestly, there should be. But if that’s too much to expect, then certainly it should be a bare minimum that Carlson be treated with the kind of seriousness that was given to a disorganized group of kids that generated 0.1% as many deaths over eight years as Carlson and his ilk produced in a single month, a month that was the least deadly month of the entire pandemic.

Every single platform should feel an obligation to not just disown Carlson, but to prominently feature material correcting his false claims. Every single news program should feel obligated to call out this threat regularly, until it no longer exists. And every single sponsor who puts up a dime for his program should be considered a co-conspirator in his acts.
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Why is Tucker Carlson still on the air? (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2021 OP
Carlson is on the air w a massive audience because NoMoreRepugs Jul 2021 #1
What? He's on a right-wing propaganda network. Who comes up with lame questions like that. rockfordfile Jul 2021 #2
He's preaching to the choir, telling them exactly what they want to hear FakeNoose Jul 2021 #3
For the same reason that Joe McCarthy was still chasing "communists" after the "no decency" remark DFW Jul 2021 #4
Structural weaknesses in the US Constitution exposed by long-wave historical forces, when combined Celerity Jul 2021 #5
This colsohlibgal Jul 2021 #6
Yes, THIS! momta Jul 2021 #11
KnR just because any time I see that trust fund loser mentioned I have to... FailureToCommunicate Jul 2021 #7
Because outrage is a drug and Tucker is the pusher. nt Binkie The Clown Jul 2021 #8
Because Fox rewards incompetence RainCaster Jul 2021 #9
It isn't an issue of competence. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #19
He has tremendous inherited wealth IronLionZion Jul 2021 #10
I guarantee he's vaccinnated, too nt XanaDUer2 Jul 2021 #14
Of course he is, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #15
His refusal to answer that question means he's definitely vaccinated IronLionZion Jul 2021 #16
I want a mask that says "Tucker Carlson is a moron!" momta Jul 2021 #12
I have a mask that MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #13
Because if the government forced him off the air, it would violate the 1st Amendment. Dial H For Hero Jul 2021 #17
THIS. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #21
I read the OP as it regards to marketplace/viewer-size intimations LanternWaste Jul 2021 #23
Incomprehensible to me that a simple piece of cloth or paper worn on the face panader0 Jul 2021 #18
Understandable. Then again, we are rational people who accept science and ... Caliman73 Jul 2021 #22
First Amendment IMO. mwooldri Jul 2021 #20
Rush is gone and Tucker's taken his place. I'm sure he has an understudy. live love laugh Jul 2021 #24
He is enamored by the smell of his own fumes. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #25
Every platform should not just disown Carlson, but prominently feature material correcting his lies. Beartracks Jul 2021 #26

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
1. Carlson is on the air w a massive audience because
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 08:43 AM
Jul 2021

a significant portion of the American public are simpletons that can be spoonfed almost any BatShitCrazedLoon theory and they will believe it.

Earth1 is reality - Earth2 is where they reside.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
3. He's preaching to the choir, telling them exactly what they want to hear
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 09:04 AM
Jul 2021

It's not us, and it will never be us. But that doesn't matter.

Remember Bill O'Reilly who got fired 4 or 5 years ago from Fox? It was the boycott of advertisers that got him fired, he lost all of his sponsors and then he was out. Maybe I sound like "cancel culture" but that's the only effective way to get rid of these guys.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
4. For the same reason that Joe McCarthy was still chasing "communists" after the "no decency" remark
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 09:05 AM
Jul 2021

Some products just remain on the shelf after their shelf life has peaked. They all fade, eventually.

Carlson is Republican thalidomide. They just don't see their own deformation yet.

Celerity

(43,314 posts)
5. Structural weaknesses in the US Constitution exposed by long-wave historical forces, when combined
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 09:10 AM
Jul 2021

Last edited Mon Jul 19, 2021, 09:51 AM - Edit history (1)

with paradigm-changing technological leaps, will potentially render it a national suicide pact.

The near absolutism of the 1st Amendment which will prevent clear and present systemic dangers from being effectively mitigated and quashed (for example, social media running riot, Fox, OANN, NewsMax, etc etc running riot)

The 2nd Amendment itself, which almost guarantees violent kinetic mass conflicts breaking out eventually

The Electoral College (self explanatory)

The very nature of the Senate, that allows a disproportionate balance of power to flow to small, reactionary States

The lack of proportional representation, which creates a huge amount of alienation politically within the vox populi

The very nature of the US system of federalism, partially due to systemic power capture at a multiplicity of lower levels, with that capture-gained power then flowing upwards and enabling power capture (and thus ill-gained control) at the federal level


etc etc etc etc

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
6. This
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 09:49 AM
Jul 2021

Our political system is so rigged against Democrats, no doubt. In any equitable fair system, just looking at recent history....no Dubya no Trump. No uphill battle to gain a small edge in the Senate.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
19. It isn't an issue of competence.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jul 2021

Competence is the ability to do something successfully or efficiently.

You can say a lot of things about Carlson but incompetence is not one. He doesn't appear to be particularly bright. He is however competent at doing the job he is paid to do. He is paid to lie and to agitate so that credulous people watch his show. We can argue whether that has any merit, I would wholly agree with anyone who says it does not. He is destructive and ridiculous and anyone who knows better sees right through him. He is however competent at deceiving vulnerable people.

Fox rewards mendacity and shamelessness. They reward the ability and willingness to lie without remorse.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
16. His refusal to answer that question means he's definitely vaccinated
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:46 AM
Jul 2021

when a CNN reporter asked him, he responded by asking about her STD test status and sexual history.

He won't say yes or no to if he's vaccinated because his stupid supporters don't realize he's a hypocrite. Then Fox News representatives claimed they are only pandering to their supporters and asking questions rather than convincing anyone to not be vaccinated. And that's a bit of a stretch. They probably think they'll be held liable some day if people die from their misinformation.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,363 posts)
13. I have a mask that
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:37 AM
Jul 2021

says FUCK TRUMP with an extended middle finger that I wear sometimes, just to piss the Trumpsters off.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. I read the OP as it regards to marketplace/viewer-size intimations
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 06:51 PM
Jul 2021

I read the OP as it regards to marketplace/viewer-size intimations and/or violations of standing statutes rather than a cart-blanche (blanket) statement of the government's de-facto (in effect) removal of a news organization.

Seems single-minded (at best) to infer one and only one possibility (as well as being a reductio ad absurdum fallacy)

It's always five o'clock somewhere in the world. Gesondheid!
Part II, Return of the Banal Smilies.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
18. Incomprehensible to me that a simple piece of cloth or paper worn on the face
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jul 2021

could cause such a rift between people. I continue to mask at the stores although I had my second
shot of Moderna in April. I have been shaking my head so much in the last 5 years it's about to
come loose. Masking does not bother me at all. In construction, I have worn one many times over
the years, and never lost my freedom. What a bunch of stupid *&%#*!! idiots!

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
22. Understandable. Then again, we are rational people who accept science and ...
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:21 PM
Jul 2021

we understand that a little bit of sacrifice can save a whole lot of people a great deal of misery. People like yourself and most on DU, understand that there are people beyond ourselves and our immediate family and our actions have effect on them, as their actions have effect on us. We also, very likely, do not sit and watch or listen to hours worth of propaganda telling us that wearing a piece of cloth over our mouth and nose is "unpatriotic" or that we are giving up our liberties in blind deference to a tyrannical government.

The way information is framed is important and effective at getting people to act or not. Right wing media plays on and evokes fear and anger in their viewers/listeners which effectively shuts down the logical centers of the brain. They are victims, but they are also perpetrators because they act in antisocial ways which affects the rest of us.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
20. First Amendment IMO.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 12:07 PM
Jul 2021

Government can't shut him down. He's on cable, a non regulated medium. He can shout "there's no fire" in a burning building, hoping that people listen to him and stay in the building while it burns and not be noticed while he's slipping out the back door. Then if relatives of victims who got burned in the fire sue him he can turn around and say "that was a joke, you shouldn't really believe me".

The only true regulator of speech are the platform owners (the cable & satellite companies, online video hosting platforms e.g. YouTube, Facebook, etc) and sadly the $$$ wins over. Cable/satellite want the other Fox channels plus the money for carrying FNC. Online video companies want the advertising dollars that this (IMO sub-) "premium" content brings. 1A doesn't apply here as the government isn't involved.

*ucker Carlson isn't going to be shut down soon. Frankly I don't know what can, except if he starts some kind of argument with FNC management and he falls out of their favour and his contract isn't renewed or is cut short.

I don't know how 1A could be amended to allow for freedom of speech yet allow that speech to be impeded when that speech is causing a public harm.

live love laugh

(13,100 posts)
24. Rush is gone and Tucker's taken his place. I'm sure he has an understudy.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 08:17 PM
Jul 2021

I don’t think it’s the personalities that are the problem as much as their backers.

It’s the financiers that are placing (t)him.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
26. Every platform should not just disown Carlson, but prominently feature material correcting his lies.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 08:52 AM
Jul 2021

Paraphrasing.

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