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Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:18 PM Jul 2021

Here comes the COVID Delta Variant

https://covidactnow.org/?s=2071991

Go to covid act now at that link.

At the bottom of the "Compare all" section, click "see all".

Sort the states by infection rate.

There are now only 3 states/territories with an infection rate below 1.0

They'll be above 1.0 in a few days.

In a month, cases in many states will be like the worst it was after the holidays.
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Here comes the COVID Delta Variant (Original Post) Pobeka Jul 2021 OP
Yes. stupid will not get. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #1
Thing is, there is no lack of information about COVID now. It's who you choose to believe. Pobeka Jul 2021 #3
If they are Republicans and they want to kill themselves. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #4
For the most part, that is what will happen. Pobeka Jul 2021 #6
They should go into self imposed lockdown if they can. roamer65 Jul 2021 #7
Yep. Fortunately there are vaxxed folks now who can mask up and deliver supplies to them. Pobeka Jul 2021 #10
Correct. roamer65 Jul 2021 #11
.. roamer65 Jul 2021 #2
Excellent resource! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #5
covidactnow is my go to resource. Pobeka Jul 2021 #8
Ty so much! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #9
I find world-o-meters extremely accurate. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #15
Why aren't infection rates reported as "daily new cases per 100K unvaccinated"? royable Jul 2021 #12
If florida's new cases yesterday was 100 per 100k, it'd mean the wave is declining. Pobeka Jul 2021 #14
Sorry I misspoke (mistyped). When I said "infection rate" I meant "daily new cases per 100K." royable Jul 2021 #16
Aah, yes. I've wondered about that too. Pobeka Jul 2021 #25
Bookmarking for future reference MustLoveBeagles Jul 2021 #13
Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #17
If poor diet and no exercise can be transmitted to other people via airborne particles Withywindle Jul 2021 #22
I heard the florida hospitals are overrun, again. lindysalsagal Jul 2021 #18
100% full in Jacksonville Fl Lochloosa Jul 2021 #24
98% preventable. lindysalsagal Jul 2021 #26
👍 Lochloosa Jul 2021 #27
👍 Lochloosa Jul 2021 #28
going full for the " NEW REPUBLICAN NAME - ANTIVA " LOVE IT ! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #19
My heart goes out to the health workers and anyone that wanted to be vaccinated that is getting chowder66 Jul 2021 #20
Two States when I checked. Hugin Jul 2021 #21
So that is why the city council has told everyone to get ready for a second lockdown.n/ t Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2021 #23
Another (unvaccinated) relative has it! Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #29

OAITW r.2.0

(23,810 posts)
1. Yes. stupid will not get.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:24 PM
Jul 2021

Doubled jabbed, but I wear mask. And many that are not vaccinated and don't know are fucked.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
3. Thing is, there is no lack of information about COVID now. It's who you choose to believe.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:30 PM
Jul 2021

Believe a bunch of crazy political hacks, or looney conspiracy theorists who claim to have "natural" cures should you get sick.

Or believe seasoned epidemiologists, virologists and health professionals that have studied mRNA vaccines for almost a decade, created extremely safe protection for humans -- oh, and the jab is free.

The mass hysteria is at epidemic levels.

OAITW r.2.0

(23,810 posts)
4. If they are Republicans and they want to kill themselves.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:33 PM
Jul 2021

I am OK with that. Just don't kill Democrats.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
6. For the most part, that is what will happen.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:35 PM
Jul 2021

I hope folks who couldn't get the jab because of medical conditions can stay safe!

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
8. covidactnow is my go to resource.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:38 PM
Jul 2021

I researched them quite a bit and am impressed by their choices in data sources, and modeling.

They are usually a day behind world-o-meters, but world-o-meters is kind of a flakey outfit -- they will not disclose their data sources, or their methods, they only want to be first at putting out a number.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
15. I find world-o-meters extremely accurate.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:58 PM
Jul 2021

It is my go-to site. Only once were they wildly off, and they corrected that within an hour and posted an explantion when they corrected the error about the source of the error and the basis for the correction.

They continuously update their data (including data back to the beginning of the pandemic as their sources correct the information.)

Here is information about their methods and sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/about/

royable

(1,263 posts)
12. Why aren't infection rates reported as "daily new cases per 100K unvaccinated"?
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:41 PM
Jul 2021

instead of "daily new cases per 100K", which is grouping both the vaccinated AND unvaccinated.

I know there are breakthrough infections, and not to minimize the situations of those to whom that happens, but they're a very small fraction of all infections. If you ignore those, you can calculate the percent unvaccinated (1 - percent vaccinated)), then find the daily new cases per 100K unvaccinated by dividing the daily new cases per 100K by the percent unvaccinated.

Using today's numbers from the covidactnow.org page, the ten worst states for daily new cases per 100K unvaccinated are:

Florida 68.6
Missouri 60.9
Arkansas 60.2
Nevada 48.5
Louisiana 43.0
Utah 33.3
Kansas 28.6
Alaska 28.2
Arizona 27.9
Alabama 27.6

Isn't this a whole lot more meaningful?

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
14. If florida's new cases yesterday was 100 per 100k, it'd mean the wave is declining.
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:46 PM
Jul 2021

That's what infection rate helps you with understanding -- are cases rising day by day or declining day by day? We'd like to see the infection rate < 1.0 everywhere so that the epidemic is waning.

new cases/100k only tells the severity of the epidemic on that day, not whether it's generally getting better or worse.

royable

(1,263 posts)
16. Sorry I misspoke (mistyped). When I said "infection rate" I meant "daily new cases per 100K."
Mon Jul 19, 2021, 11:58 PM
Jul 2021

My point was, why are daily new cases per 100K reported instead of daily new cases per 100K unvaccinated? The latter lets you see the severity of covid among the unvaccinated, one state (or other geographic region of your choice) relative to another. If two states have the same "daily new cases per 100K," the one with the higher % vaccinated will also have a more severe daily new cases per 100K among the unvaccinated.

Post #700! Only took me 12.75 years.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
25. Aah, yes. I've wondered about that too.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 09:18 AM
Jul 2021

And even tried to back my way into that statistic with some algebra.

What muddies the waters that that vaccinated individuals are being infected with delta, and becoming symptomatc. There is no question about that. What is a question is what % of vaccinated individuals *can* have symptomatic infections. And that requires a controlled trial.

Congrats on post #700!

Response to Pobeka (Original post)

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
22. If poor diet and no exercise can be transmitted to other people via airborne particles
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 02:19 AM
Jul 2021

then that's time to worry about it.

"eat healthy and exercise" is completely common knowledge.

The Delta variant is now killing a lot of previously healthy young people and maiming others.

22-year-old marathon runner who got COVID and could barely walk for a year: https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/07/15/a-chicago-woman-had-covid-symptoms-for-a-year-then-she-got-vaccinated-and-is-recovering-it-will-save-your-life/

chowder66

(9,010 posts)
20. My heart goes out to the health workers and anyone that wanted to be vaccinated that is getting
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 01:55 AM
Jul 2021

caught up in this.

Hugin

(32,773 posts)
21. Two States when I checked.
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 02:11 AM
Jul 2021

Only two.

Although, I have full confidence in the vaccines' abilities to personally fend off hospitalization, serious illness, and death.

I'm resuming my full COVID protocols for two reasons... I'd rather not get the 'rona at all. Then, for those the vaccines may not be appropriate for due to condition, little children, and those who are acting like little children.

The rest of you idiots need to get VACCINATED. You're making no point other than what a gullible moron you are. Every single one of these people who are pushing you not to get vaccinated and to become a statistic to 'own Biden' are themselves vaccinated. Every. Last. One. Let that sink in.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,846 posts)
29. Another (unvaccinated) relative has it!
Tue Jul 20, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jul 2021

My nephew's wife, in the Las Vegas area.

They're both Facebook conspiracy-following idiots! I heard that nephew, at a Christmas family reunion, talking about "chemtrails" that poison people years ago!

Even my evangelical-nut sister, that nephew's mother, thinks they're crazy! She was vaccinated months ago, as soon as it was available for her age group.

I bite my tongue about it, but I feel like telling her, "That's what happens when you send one of your kids to a Bible school instead of a regular high school!" (All of her other children, who aren't conspiracy kooks, went to regular schools with better educations in science.)

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