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Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:27 AM

TRUMP: "It sounds like you're ashamed of your president" MILLEY: "I don't expect you to understand."

The Inside Story of How Trump Lost" ó pinpoints the moment that the relationship between former President Trump and Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley began to disintegrate.

It came last year during a fiery Oval Office confrontation over Milley's public apology for appearing in a photo op with Trump at St. John's Church:

TRUMP: Why did you apologize? Thatís weak.

MILLEY: Not where I come from. It had nothing to do with you. It had to do with me and the uniform and the apolitical tradition of the United States military.

TRUMP: I donít understand that. It sounds like youíre ashamed of your president.

MILLEY: I donít expect you to understand.


https://www.axios.com/milley-trump-lafayette-square-protesters-0baee50b-961f-43f4-bb58-b0d909c7073c.html

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Reply TRUMP: "It sounds like you're ashamed of your president" MILLEY: "I don't expect you to understand." (Original post)
kpete Wednesday OP
underpants Wednesday #1
Fortinbras Armstrong Thursday #46
tanyev Wednesday #2
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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:29 AM

1. It's a human thing, you wouldn't understand

💩

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Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:04 AM

46. Even more, it's an honor thing

There's no way Trump would understand.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 09:39 AM

2. The ONLY thing Donny understands is loyalty and fealty to HIM.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:36 AM

7. fealty. yeah. that's it. the perfect term

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Response to tanyev (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:09 PM

35. And Moolah

Especially the ill-gotten kind.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:13 AM

3. Of course he wouldn't understand

the Mango Menace has no shame, he doesn't even know what the meaning of shame is.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:22 AM

4. We were all ashamed of you.

We were ashamed because you were and are a racist, sexist, transphobic, illiterate, uneducated, Adderall-addicted, sociopathic, genocidal, revenge-seeking, me centered maniac who gets off on pain, suffering and piss and openly embarrasses the entire country every time you open your orange dyed mouth and breathe out your ketchup breath all over the rest of the world with your verbal diarrhea.

Fuck you

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:24 AM

14. well put

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:36 AM

22. You just channeled General Milley

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:31 PM

32. And he wasn't a nice person too.

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 03:14 PM

39. And those are his more positive traits.....

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:07 AM

47. Youi forgot to mention "incompetent". n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:24 AM

5. "I don't expect you to understand." Wow. That's a keeper.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:45 AM

8. My first thought too when reading this.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 06:55 PM

43. A very "I've got your number" moment for Milley

I imagine that went over TFG 's head, too.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:32 AM

6. Good on Gen. Milley for speaking truth. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens think

the Orange Douche should be leading the country - if that does not terrify you about the country we live in I must have a flaw in my reasoning mechanism.

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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:04 AM

10. Trump does not want to lead or govern. He wants to rule.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:19 AM

13. He thinks being president means you own the country.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:31 PM

33. ...which in turn means you can do what you want with/to it.

But do something for it?
Nah, "that's weak."

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:26 PM

30. He wants to issue orders that others follow.


Dictate.

I hope Iím still alive when that hell beast dies. He has no idea how many people will celebrate. Oh, and theyíd better bury him in an undisclosed location (or cremate him) or his burial site will be over run with people lining up to take a whiz or a poop on his grave. Instead of an eternal flame, heíll have an eternal stench of piss and poop.

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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:33 AM

20. You are not alone in your fear.

nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 10:45 AM

9. Milley Apologized Very Publicly

Where he and I come from, it is a real man who admits it when he is wrong and apologizes if appropriate.
I will illustrate by showing the opposite:
thedonald never admits heís wrong and never apologizes.
I became an appreciator of General Milley the moment he said he erred.

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Response to Tbear (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:30 AM

18. No respect for leaders who don't own up. Tons of respect for Gen Milley. He got euchered ...

... by someone else and took the heat for it like a real American.

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Response to Tbear (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:19 AM

49. Same here. That public apology left me feeling more secure in his leadership

than I was before he made that mistake in the first place. It told me what I needed to know about the man. And my already high respect for him has kept growing since that day the more I learn about him and the role he has played in defending or democracy.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:16 AM

11. Now I hate Trump even more, if that is possible. He's a flagitious misanthrope.

flagitious ... adj. 1. Characterized by extremely brutal or cruel crimes; vicious. 2. Infamous; scandalous.

misanthrope ... noun 1. a person who dislikes humankind and avoids human society.




Trump: the face of pure evil.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:17 AM

12. Milley knows TFG is a dumb ass punk.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:27 AM

16. Just


A manipulative punk from Queens. Lotta good people from Queens New York, he's not one of them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:25 AM

15. Your headline, with Trump quote will be forever Trump's calling card..

Also, a bit of the explanation needs to be make..(small bit)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:27 AM

17. The Former Guy doesn't believe in the country's traditions

Unless it serves him and inflates his own ego.

Milley's right. Tangeranus wouldn't understand.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:31 AM

19. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread kpete.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:33 AM

21. In my opinion, Milley knew exactly what he was doing when

he walked out there with Trump. Hell, I knew it. We all did. If he didn't he's an idiot. All he's sorry about is the public reaction to what he did.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #21)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:28 PM

31. Yeah, wasn't he wearing camo that day? For the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs that is "purposeful

tough guy posturing" clothes, not "I happen to be here because I had a meeting at the White House today anyway" clothes.

I google-imaged "General Miley White House" and out of all of the pics of him in the first five pages of results -- many of which are definitely at the WH and/or have him seated or standing next to Trump -- and that day's pics are the only ones in which he's wearing camo.

He didn't make a mistake in the moment and immediately regret it. He made a bad, premeditated decision, and regretted it after experiencing the reaction.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:41 AM

23. Thank the Gods we had Gen Milley there.


I donít think for a minute that we would be here today without people like him.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:42 AM

24. Anyone with half a brain

. . . could look at Joint Chief Chair General Milley's uniform and know that he's anything but "weak."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Milley#cite_note-saved-81

Last fall, Mrs. Hollyanne Milley, the wife of the Join Chiefs Chairman, saved the life of a veteran who collapsed at Arlington National Park. Mrs. Milley is a working cardiac nurse.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hollyanne-milley-wife-of-joint-chiefs-chairman-saved-mans-life-on-veterans-day-11605285598

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:56 AM

25. the only thing donnie understands is $$$$$$$$ and to get more $$$$$$ . that is all.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #25)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 07:52 PM

44. The only other thing is to sexually assault 'biyouteeful women' without their consent... (n/t)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:01 PM

26. Of course he wouldn't understand, and the first thing that he considers is how

It relates to him. The only way anything matters is in how it relates to H.I.M. !

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:05 PM

27. Trump can't comprehend dedication to something larger than one's self

To him, there is nothing larger, nothing more important than Donald Trump.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:15 PM

28. "I don't expect you to understand" was an implied amendment to everything any professional

ever said to the former guy...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 12:23 PM

29. THAT, would be high expectations.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 01:18 PM

34. Milley is right up there with Smedley Butler in the "Military Heroes of Democracy" pantheon. n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #34)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:15 PM

38. I disagree with that.

What can be said of General Milley, IMO, is that he ends up on the good side of the line, but there are not many public examples of him showing particular intestinal fortitude towards Mr Trump.

-- Mal

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:10 PM

36. Donald Trump has been watching too much NCIS.

Of all of Gibbs's maxims, "Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness" has got to be the... weakest.

-- Mal

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 02:14 PM

37. Oh to be a fly on the wall

(one who understands English, of course) & hear Milley's private assessment of Trump.

I'll bet he's coined some colorful hyphenated nouns & adjectives, military-style.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:40 PM

40. K&r

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 04:45 PM

41. Nobody would expect the narcissist in chief to understand any fucking thing

ESPECIALLY when it comes to things like honor

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:05 PM

42. the difference between someone working for America and someone working for himself

it's quite glaring

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 21, 2021, 11:02 PM

45. MILLEY: I don't expect you to understand.

It went right over his self centered head....what a malignant narcissist's...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:10 AM

48. I had no idea what Milley's character was

Thank God TFG didn't have a clue either.

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