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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 10:41 PM Jan 2012

Why I Hate War..

The worst things that you can think of happen..
Anyone who says it will be over quickly, is a fool and a liar.
Let them go fight, but they don't, and they don't have kids that fight...
.like Bush and Cheney..something glorious..my ass.

..got 32 minutes..watch this.....

Night and Fog...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048434/

It will make you think real hard about war..
If not, well you are dead..

Oh..so you think it is about Europe???
try this on for size..Asia..

The Killing Fields...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087553/

How about in the good old U.S.A??


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_Creek_massacre
Now...you don't have to hit the link..the info is right here..........

Shit...War is to be avoided.......it ruins the fighters minds and turns them into?????????????
read carefully, there was a flag of peace there, there were no fighters there.......there was an American Flag there.......
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Sand Creek ..read it is about what American Soldiers did..if you don't know.
On the morning of November 29, 1864, Chivington ordered his troops to attack......

Black Kettle, a chief of a group of around 800 mostly Northern Cheyenne, reported to Fort Lyon in an effort to establish peace. After having done so, he and his band, along with some Arapaho under Chief Niwot, camped out at nearby Sand Creek, less than 40 miles north. The Dog Soldiers, who had been responsible for many of the raids on whites, were not part of this encampment. Assured by the U.S. Government's promises of peace, most of the warriors were off hunting buffalo, leaving only around 60 men, and women and children in the village. Most of the men were too old or too young to hunt. Black Kettle flew an American flag over his lodge, since previously the officers had said this would show he was friendly and prevent attack by U.S. soldiers.

Setting out from Fort Lyon, Chivington and his 700 troops of the First Colorado Cavalry, Third Colorado Cavalry and a company of First New Mexico Volunteers marched to Black Kettle's campsite. On the night of November 28, soldiers and militia drank heavily and celebrated their anticipated victory. On the morning of November 29, 1864, Chivington ordered his troops to attack. Two officers, Captain Silas Soule and Lieutenant Joseph Cramer, commanding companies D and K, respectively, of the First Colorado Cavalry, refused to follow Chivington's order and told their men to hold fire. Other soldiers in Chivington's force, however, immediately attacked the village. Disregarding the American flag, and a white flag that was run up shortly after the soldiers commenced firing, Chivington's soldiers massacred many of its inhabitants.


I saw the bodies of those lying there cut all to pieces, worse mutilated than any I ever saw before; the women cut all to pieces ... With knives; scalped; their brains knocked out; children two or three months old; all ages lying there, from sucking infants up to warriors ... By whom were they mutilated? By the United States troops ...

—- John S. Smith, Congressional Testimony of Mr. John S. Smith, 1865


Fingers and ears were cut off the bodies for the jewelry they carried. The body of White Antelope, lying solitarily in the creek bed, was a prime target. Besides scalping him the soldiers cut off his nose, ears, and testicles-the last for a tobacco pouch ...

—- Stan Hoig


Jis to think of that dog Chivington and his dirty hounds, up thar at Sand Creek. His men shot down squaws, and blew the brains out of little innocent children. You call sich soldiers Christians, do ye? And Indians savages? What der yer 'spose our Heavenly Father, who made both them and us, thinks of these things? I tell you what, I don't like a hostile red skin any more than you do. And when they are hostile, I've fought 'em, hard as any man. But I never yet drew a bead on a squaw or papoose, and I despise the man who would.
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orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
1. War = Failure ,failure to Comprimise , sympathize
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 10:52 PM
Jan 2012

failure to oust the hateful elements that would put a nation in threat of attack ,or the aggressors against a nation for no apparent reason. In all wars the people that lose their lives, otherwise have the least to lose or gain from it's result.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. FDR's son James served..here his the bio. At least Roosevelt's son was willing to go..
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jan 2012

bio of James Roosevlt's service..
.You didn't see Bush sending his daughters.did you? I think one was old enough..
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Roosevelt_________________________________________________________________________

In October 1939, after World War II broke out in Europe, Roosevelt resigned the lieutenant colonel's commission he had been given in 1936, and was commissioned as a Captain in the Marine Corps Reserves. In November 1940, he went on active duty. In early 1941, the President sent him to the Middle East as a military attaché with the British forces. He travelled extensively in the area, and observed several important campaigns. [3]

In August 1941, he joined the staff of William J. Donovan, Coordinator of Information, with the job of working out the exchange of information with other agencies.[1]

After Japan's Attack on Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt requested assignment to combat duty. He transferred to the Marine Raiders, the Marines' commando force, and became second-in-command of the 2nd Raider Battalion under Evans Carlson who Roosevelt knew when Carlson commanded the Marine Detachment at the Warm Springs, Georgia residence of Franklin Roosevelt. His influence helped win Presidential backing for the Raiders, who were opposed by Marine traditionalists.

Roosevelt served with the 2nd Raiders at Midway, and in the Makin Island raid, where he earned the Navy Cross. He was given command of the new 4th Raiders, but was invalided in February 1943. He served in various staff positions during the rest of the war. In November 1943, he accompanied Army troops in the invasion of Makin, and was awarded the Silver Star by the Army. He retired from active duty in October 1945, with rank of Colonel. He continued in the Marine Corps Reserves, and retired in 1959 at the rank of Brigadier General.[3]

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
3. When you join the military you'll be asked to do the same to foreign people now
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 11:15 PM
Jan 2012

And if you refuse, you will be shot.

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