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I agree with JD Vance that only children should count for votes! (Original Post) ExciteBike66 Jul 2021 OP
Hah! Explain yourself, please. Why does that make any sense at all? brush Jul 2021 #1
LOL! You are looking for "sense" in a post about JD Vance? ExciteBike66 Jul 2021 #2
Used the sarcasm gif or folks might think the same about you. brush Jul 2021 #6
And one vote dweller Jul 2021 #3
Not what he said... brooklynite Jul 2021 #4
Fine, mothers still get those extra votes. Same impact either way. ExciteBike66 Jul 2021 #5
Umm, how about No. TheRealNorth Jul 2021 #7
So you don't believe in democracy either? Infertile/barren--no vote for you! hlthe2b Jul 2021 #8
I think it's supposed to be sarcasm. Srkdqltr Jul 2021 #9
Posters who can't be bothered to indicate so deserve to take their chances with a jury. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #10
So are you going to tell??? Srkdqltr Jul 2021 #11
... hlthe2b Jul 2021 #15
Sometimes it is. I was just pointing out that the poster was Srkdqltr Jul 2021 #17
Maybe so on taking their chances with a jury, nevertheless... Silent3 Jul 2021 #12
No. I don't need RW memes being brought and defended here. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #13
Uhmmm... sarcasm about this is not a defense of a right wing meme. Silent3 Jul 2021 #16
I think there are times when the "/s" is not needed. ExciteBike66 Jul 2021 #19
Of course YOU would say so. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #20
I am so sorry to have offended you with my joke. ExciteBike66 Jul 2021 #21
Obviously your comment suggests the opposite. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #22
Obvious sarcasm should not need to be tagged. alphafemale Jul 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author ExciteBike66 Jul 2021 #18
Not sure snowybirdie Jul 2021 #14
Nope. You assume that mothers always act in the best interests of their children. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #23

ExciteBike66

(2,336 posts)
2. LOL! You are looking for "sense" in a post about JD Vance?
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jul 2021

He is saying nonsensical stuff in order to get name recognition. Ironically, being a best-selling author makes him an unknown in rural areas

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
4. Not what he said...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:07 PM
Jul 2021

Vance said there should be EXTRA votes for people which kids.

As for your line, women can be just as thoughtless in their voting patterns as men can.

ExciteBike66

(2,336 posts)
5. Fine, mothers still get those extra votes. Same impact either way.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:08 PM
Jul 2021

As to voting patterns, I would take women over men any day of the week in terms of voting.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
7. Umm, how about No.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:16 PM
Jul 2021

Hes courting the Evangelical "Be fruitful and multiply" wing. We don't need every Republican going the way of the Duggars.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
8. So you don't believe in democracy either? Infertile/barren--no vote for you!
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jul 2021

Deliberately childless among those who give back to society, devote their lives to others? NOPE!
Can't have those people voting either!

WTF? A DUER posted this? What is this... post an outrageous RW meme day?

Srkdqltr

(6,271 posts)
17. Sometimes it is. I was just pointing out that the poster was
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 04:57 PM
Jul 2021

Being sarcastic about what someone else said. There is so much stupidity going around at this time it's a real shame.

Silent3

(15,204 posts)
12. Maybe so on taking their chances with a jury, nevertheless...
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:37 PM
Jul 2021

...your sarcasm detector needs a major overhaul, and you need to crank down that leap to judgment a bit.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
13. No. I don't need RW memes being brought and defended here.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 02:45 PM
Jul 2021

nor your unwarranted snark. Maybe YOU need to take your own advice.

Silent3

(15,204 posts)
16. Uhmmm... sarcasm about this is not a defense of a right wing meme.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 03:31 PM
Jul 2021

That's a truly bizarre way to take it. Lighten up, Francis.

ExciteBike66

(2,336 posts)
19. I think there are times when the "/s" is not needed.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jul 2021

I mean, I don't feel like I had to explain it...

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
20. Of course YOU would say so.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jul 2021

No. It is not funny. Not cute. It is a repeat of a RW meme and offensive as hell.

You implied in your self-delete that "because it was posted here (presumedly "here" means at DU) that we should assume it is sarcastic. Ummm, no. If that were true, there would be several thousand DUers now banned for disseminating RW memes--whether they were "misunderstood" or not-- that would still be here. You want benefit-of-the doubt? Then be clear.

The thought that ANYONE would be eliminated from voting for any criteria, other than legal eligibility is so repugnant--so reminiscent of Jim Crowe-- that yes, I find it offensive as hell and so not funny. Given that is precisely what some Republican state legislatures are trying to do through suppression laws--and many successfully thus far--I'm surprised you would find humor in it either.

ExciteBike66

(2,336 posts)
21. I am so sorry to have offended you with my joke.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 05:27 PM
Jul 2021

One of my professors once explained the concept of the eggshell-headed plaintiff...

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
22. Obviously your comment suggests the opposite.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 05:29 PM
Jul 2021
"One of my professors once explained the concept of the eggshell-headed plaintiff..."


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alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
24. Obvious sarcasm should not need to be tagged.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jul 2021

What are we becoming if someone is threatened with a dark mark of a jury because of a lack of a sarcasm tag?

Response to hlthe2b (Reply #8)

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
14. Not sure
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 03:00 PM
Jul 2021

Does he mean People who ever had kids? People who adopted or foster? People with only young kids in the house? What's age cut off? How about us grandparents? One vote per grandkid? Lots of questions on this one.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
23. Nope. You assume that mothers always act in the best interests of their children.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 05:40 PM
Jul 2021

That is a mighty big assumption. There are millions of women who voted for Trump, in both elections. Those millions of women voted the way they did for a few reasons. Either they liked what Trump was doing, they deferred to their husbands and voted with him, or they were driven to vote conservative based on fundamentalist religion and what their church tells them to do.

We cannot assume that just because one is a mother, that one will think about things from the perspective of the future that is supported by empirical evidence.

The Democratic party is the party that is thinking into the future. That is why we have the proposal for both hard infrastructure and social infrastructure (social programs). That is why any proposal for a Green New Deal is only taken seriously on the Democratic side. Vance is using the same twisted rhetoric that conservatives use to make it seem like they are on to something when they are actually the "bad guys" in the scenario. It isn't the "childless left" that is only making decisions in the short term. Decisions in the short term stem from our current economic system, which is based on Wall Street modeling, thinking only about quarterly earnings. That is the way Republicans think. What can they do to get wins in the coming election cycle. Oh, they have a long term plan, but it does not involve creating a better world for everyone. It involves them having permanent power, then deciding who gets to live in their society. They just can't sell that vision because it eliminates more than half of the current population. So, as always, they project their own desires onto their opponents.

Conservative mothers are not very different from conservative fathers.

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