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HAB911

(8,873 posts)
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:11 PM Jul 2021

Ron DeSatan may lose his mind

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/ford-reinstates-mask-mandates-at-facilities-in-missouri-and-florida.html

Ford is reinstating mask requirements for workers and visitors at facilities in Missouri and Florida, both of which are considered emerging hot spots for a new Delta variant of the coronavirus.

The company also will require U.S. employees planning international business travel to be vaccinated against Covid-19, Ford spokeswoman Kelli Felker confirmed Wednesday.

“The health and safety of our workforce continues to be our top priority. With a data-driven approach to our global COVID-19 protocols and the increase in cases in specific U.S. regions, Ford is reinstating face mask protocols in select states,” Felker said in an emailed statement. “We will continue to evaluate COVID-19 case data to make further protocol changes.”

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Ron DeSatan may lose his mind (Original Post) HAB911 Jul 2021 OP
The more Americans DeSatan can kill with Covid the more MAGA trumpers will love him Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #1
It is disturbingly cynical that Republicans are so casual about killing off their supporters DFW Jul 2021 #2
That or they dont intend to allow elections to be certified when they lose. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #8
Your observation is disturbing closer to plausibility than I wish DFW Jul 2021 #9
He's killing off his own supporters, though mcar Jul 2021 #4
I know, it is weird. I think they/he is doing what trump wants, and the problem is Eliot Rosewater Jul 2021 #7
I do think that's it mcar Jul 2021 #13
Yep - The calculus is that they can suppress more opposition votes than they can kill supporters. PaulRevere08 Jul 2021 #16
need a law where citizens can just remove by way of simple vote ! monkeyman1 Jul 2021 #22
His mind is in the lost and found bin... Omnipresent Jul 2021 #3
👍✅ underpants Jul 2021 #5
👍✅ underpants Jul 2021 #6
We are going to be "Ground Zero" for a catastrophe ScratchCat Jul 2021 #10
DeSatan lost his mind a while back. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #11
He may declare a tax for Ford's to drive on Florida roads. If you don't live here you don't NoMoreRepugs Jul 2021 #12
Yep, I'm in a little blue dot in Tampa HAB911 Jul 2021 #14
In the end, the real drivers of this has to come from employers... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #15
My cousin in FL is in hospital with covid MyMission Jul 2021 #17
it's a damn shame HAB911 Jul 2021 #18
I was never really comfortable going without a mask MyMission Jul 2021 #26
I don't really mind wearing one HAB911 Jul 2021 #27
Was your cousin vaccinated? boston bean Jul 2021 #19
Not vaccinated because her MD advised against it! MyMission Jul 2021 #25
he's playing it safe if bluedevil4 Jul 2021 #20
politics sans leadership HAB911 Jul 2021 #21
Ron DeSantis and his shitty anti-vax cult brought us here. Initech Jul 2021 #23
Private property. Falls under the owner's purview. paleotn Jul 2021 #24
Florida mayors defy DeSantis with mask, vaccine mandates Eugene Jul 2021 #28
+1 HAB911 Jul 2021 #29

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. The more Americans DeSatan can kill with Covid the more MAGA trumpers will love him
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jul 2021

I wish that was an exaggeration.

DFW

(54,329 posts)
2. It is disturbingly cynical that Republicans are so casual about killing off their supporters
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:37 PM
Jul 2021

It's as if they figure, "there's always more where they came from," and nothing as yet has proved them wrong.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
8. That or they dont intend to allow elections to be certified when they lose.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:15 PM
Jul 2021

Hope I am wrong...i wish I had been wrong when I said, many times for many years that repubs, especially MAGA will have no problem AT ALL killing us.

January 6 removed any doubt.

DFW

(54,329 posts)
9. Your observation is disturbing closer to plausibility than I wish
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jul 2021

They seem to have dropped all pretense of any willingness to let the eligible electorate decide the winners of elections.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
7. I know, it is weird. I think they/he is doing what trump wants, and the problem is
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:13 PM
Jul 2021

trump really is what I have called him for over 5 years, the dumbest adult alive.

Trump has no brain function as we think of it, his brain operates the way the brain of a rabid dog does.

So trump wants them to do something that is very stupid, what is new! And DeSatan and the GOP in most red states from here on in have NO intention of certifying ANY race they lose. So there is that.

mcar

(42,288 posts)
13. I do think that's it
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jul 2021

They believe they can just decide elections in their favor so who cares how many rubes they kill off.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
22. need a law where citizens can just remove by way of simple vote !
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jul 2021

negligent homicide might be next ?

Omnipresent

(5,704 posts)
3. His mind is in the lost and found bin...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jul 2021

It’s still there, just that he doesn’t miss it, because he's barely ever used it!

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
10. We are going to be "Ground Zero" for a catastrophe
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:18 PM
Jul 2021

If things don't change with the anti-mask nonsense immediately. Especially in schools.

Kids are going to spread this to both a)teachers/administrators and then go home and spread it to b)their parents(who will in turn go to work and spread it to co-workers). Some of those who are vaccinated will get it, not know it and spread it to others. Being that Florida is a vacation destination, it will spread back to other States quickly.

This is the inevitable result when one party in a two-party system abandons all principals and platforms and decides they will just oppose anything "the other side" is for or wants. That is why we are here. "Liberals want masks, so we must be against masks". It is really that simple.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,401 posts)
12. He may declare a tax for Ford's to drive on Florida roads. If you don't live here you don't
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 02:52 PM
Jul 2021

understand what a BatShitCrazedLoon he is. He is desperate to capture the Deplorable base and there is literally nothing he will not do to prove he is crazier than tRump.

Wounded Bear

(58,620 posts)
15. In the end, the real drivers of this has to come from employers...
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:03 PM
Jul 2021

It would help if unions got on board as well.

This isn't really rocket science. When dealing with respiratory illnesses that spread airborne, wear masks. Where there is an effective vaccine, get it.

MyMission

(1,849 posts)
17. My cousin in FL is in hospital with covid
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jul 2021

She is a home health aide, immunocompromised from her first covid infection in February 2020.
She caught it this time from an elderly (90+) vaccinated couple, who are homebound and never leave the house... except their vaccinated son came for a visit and took them out to eat, inside, exposed to Florida covid germs for several hours on Friday. Their immune systems couldn't protect them. My cousin spent the weekend with them, they started feeling bad on Sunday, she felt ill Monday, admitted to hospital Tuesday, coma Wednesday and Thursday, found out Friday after her fever broke that couple had gotten it, infected her, and were in a hospital too.

She wasn't intubated, but is on oxygen and now having respiratory therapy. Got COPD after first time, now it's gotten worse. She's not a smoker. Her son and boyfriend also got it but they weren't vaccinated and didn't end up in hospital.

I had planned a visit in August to see her, but now I won't set foot in Florida for months.
Heading north to the beach instead. Happy to spend my tax dollars in NY and NJ. My trip there last summer got cancelled due to covid.

She said there are 2 floors of covid patients, not counting ICU, and many are kids. She hates her governor.


HAB911

(8,873 posts)
18. it's a damn shame
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:22 PM
Jul 2021

we got about 1 month where we felt comfortable going maskless, now back to square one

MyMission

(1,849 posts)
26. I was never really comfortable going without a mask
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 07:14 PM
Jul 2021

And I have continued to wear one since getting vax in April.

I was often told (throughout my childhood) I'm too smart for my own good. I went on to study psychology and applied statistics in grad school.

My good brain and statistical training told me "they" don't really know what's going on, from the very beginning of this pandemic; trend analysis can change significantly over time, data reported is incomplete and changes weekly. And my common sense told me if (pre-vaccine) we can be asymptomatic and spread it, and with the vaccine our bodies can fight the infection, then we could be asymptomatic and still spread it or catch it from others who are vaccinated and asymptomatic. Seems like the medical community is figuring that out now.

The mask cha cha is not a dance I like.
Don't need to wear one, should wear one, must wear one, don't need to wear one....
Who wants to play a nice game of Russian roulette? Not I. Just wear a damn mask!

And Personally, I don't mind wearing a mask. Especially since we are back at square one.

HAB911

(8,873 posts)
27. I don't really mind wearing one
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 08:06 PM
Jul 2021

when I worked in a very large office environment, it was almost impossible to dodge getting a cold. I always envisioned that there was mucus on every door handle and surface, because there was. wearing a mask would have helped.

MyMission

(1,849 posts)
25. Not vaccinated because her MD advised against it!
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 05:46 PM
Jul 2021

After having covid in February 2020, which they couldn't even diagnose then, she got long haul covid, developed lupus, Ra and COPD, and cognitive issues.Her dad had developed lupus at age 63, she got it at 59 because covid brought it out, hastened it in her. Her MD advised her to wait because of her lupus and liver function. I know someone else with a liver condition who was also advised not to get it.

Some with autoimmune conditions who get vax may not get much protection. She was being very careful, but unmasked with her vaccinated patients who infected her.

 

bluedevil4

(305 posts)
20. he's playing it safe if
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 03:30 PM
Jul 2021

you ask me. He's leaving it up to floridians to wear or not wear a mask. If corporations want you to wear a mask then you wear a mask. Period. It's very simple if you ask me. Those who are against masks don't get mad, those for masks wear them. It's a win win

paleotn

(17,902 posts)
24. Private property. Falls under the owner's purview.
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 04:05 PM
Jul 2021

DeathSantis can't do shit about it. Unless, of course, he want every Tom, Dick and Harry to protest "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service."

Eugene

(61,846 posts)
28. Florida mayors defy DeSantis with mask, vaccine mandates
Wed Jul 28, 2021, 08:15 PM
Jul 2021
Florida mayors defy DeSantis with mask, vaccine mandates (Associated Press)

MIAMI (AP) — As coronavirus cases continue to soar, two Florida mayors are announcing mask and vaccine mandates and defying the governor who is firmly opposed to any pandemic restrictions.

Masks will again be required at indoor county facilities in Florida’s populous Miami-Dade following new federal guidance recommending that even people vaccinated against COVID-19 should wear facial coverings. And in Orange County, home to Walt Disney World and Universal Orlando Resort, the mayor went a step further and announced all 4,200 nonunion county employees will be required to get their first coronavirus vaccine shot by the end of August, and the second shot by the end of September.


https://apnews.com/article/health-miami-coronavirus-pandemic-247f603722fc0f1d38d0bd97a9006c25
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