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Fri Jul 30, 2021, 08:50 AM

How do you get the foxes out of the henhouse if they can fight subpoenas?

I think it should be a rule that no Congress person should be able to serve as a lawmaker if they are fighting a subpoena that has to do with getting to the bottom of an attack on Congress.

It doesn't make sense to allow people who are possibly trying to overthrow our government to keep working in government.

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Reply How do you get the foxes out of the henhouse if they can fight subpoenas? (Original post)
Ohioboy Jul 2021 OP
pwb Jul 2021 #1
Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #4
CrispyQ Jul 2021 #2
FBaggins Jul 2021 #5
Silent3 Jul 2021 #3
kentuck Jul 2021 #6
FBaggins Jul 2021 #7
GoodRaisin Jul 2021 #8
Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #9
kentuck Jul 2021 #10
mopinko Jul 2021 #11
RainCaster Jul 2021 #12

Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 08:57 AM

1. Pukes hate government

always have. Every one. They work against government not in it.

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Response to pwb (Reply #1)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:02 AM

4. I refuse to vote for people whose stated purpose is to destroy the government...

which pretty much has ruled out any repubs over the last 30 years or so.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:00 AM

2. I'd like to know why congressional subpoenas don't seem to have any teeth.

Is it dependent on the DOJ to enforce them?

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:07 AM

5. It isn't that they don't have teeth

It’s that using those teeth is time-consuming. You can’t create a panel one day and have everyone you want forced to appear a week later.

This is particularly true in the case of Congress which has less-useful “teeth” for this type of inquiry.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:01 AM

3. There are a bunch of things like this that need fixing, but can probably only be fixed...

...by constitutional amendment, and that's damn near impossible to accomplish in the foreseeable future.

When it comes to Congressional oversight, I'd cut the length of any appeal of a subpoena to maybe two weeks, or a month at most. The courts would be obligated, of course, to expedite their handling of these cases.

The legal benefit of the doubt would always go to Congress, and the Sergeant at Arms would have the authority to physically haul someone's ass into hearings as needed if they fail to cooperate.

No more "playing out the clock".

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:12 AM

6. Take them to the Supreme Court.

Make them decide.

Do not surrender.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:12 AM

7. You don't want to live in a world where people can't fight subpoenas

Remember that Ernesto Miranda was guilty of rape and kidnapping a teenager. But it would have been wrong to say “how do we get rid of criminals like this if he can challenge a confession?”

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:21 AM

8. Find others who have knowledge that would incriminate them

and have them testify.

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Response to GoodRaisin (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:24 AM

9. Number One Answer ! nt

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Response to GoodRaisin (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:26 AM

10. Wow! What a concept!

Use our brains!

It's not a good look to be out-smarted by these morons.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 09:46 AM

11. sounds like valid grounds for expulsion.

esp if there is evidence that they are involved.

also- doj is on our side now. they can push the judges to keep the calendar of the hearings.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jul 30, 2021, 10:05 AM

12. Change the rules - no vote of you have an active subpoena

How many in the GOP would get their undies twisted over that?

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