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mfcorey1

(10,997 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:58 AM Jan 2012

O'Keefe Caught In His Own Trap

NO AMOUNT OF PIMP COSTUMES CAN HIDE JAMES O'KEEFE FROM... THE LAW (BUM, BUM, BUMMMMMM) - TPM: "It was one of the few -- if not the only -- coordinated efforts to attempt in-person voter fraud, and it was pulled off by affiliates of conservative activist James O'Keefe at polling places in New Hampshire Tuesday night. All of it part of an attempt to prove the need for voter ID laws that voting rights experts say have a unfair impact on minority voters. Now election law experts tell TPM that O'Keefe's allies could face criminal charges on both the federal and state level for procuring ballots under false names, and that his undercover sting doesn't demonstrate a need for voter ID laws at all. Federal law bans not only the casting of, but the 'procurement' of ballots 'that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held.'" [TPM]

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O'Keefe Caught In His Own Trap (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jan 2012 OP
I read about that pennylane100 Jan 2012 #1
Conspiracy to commit jberryhill Jan 2012 #2
Oh this is delicious alfredo Jan 2012 #4
So would his bankrollers also be conspirators? This may get interesting.... Erose999 Jan 2012 #11
Yes jberryhill Jan 2012 #12
the name chosen was a man who died ten days ago. his widow is distraught. roguevalley Jan 2012 #10
Lock the bastard up Oldtimeralso Jan 2012 #3
You must not be on Holder's staff. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #16
Does anyone honestly think anything will happen to him? tridim Jan 2012 #5
I could be wrong, but I think that he could beg Holder to prosecute him and still not be prosecuted AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #15
"OK, I'll let you go this time, but don't ever do anything like this again!" NBachers Jan 2012 #6
bRat-fucking Chipper Chat Jan 2012 #7
Sure seems like it would be a probation violation suffragette Jan 2012 #8
So, he can't associate with Republicans? FSogol Jan 2012 #13
There is that suffragette Jan 2012 #17
ROFL Scurrilous Jan 2012 #9
So, what they actually demonstrated is that our current laws can gkhouston Jan 2012 #14
so the little chickenshit sent others to do his dirty work....a true pimp spanone Jan 2012 #18
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Conspiracy to commit
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:05 AM
Jan 2012

Any agreement to commit a crime combined with an overt act in furtherance of the crime, constitutes a conspiracy and is chargeable under the same penalty as the crime itself.

If you drive the robber to the bank, as part of the scheme to rob the bank, you are a bank robber.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Yes
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jan 2012

Anyone who agreed to a scheme to commit a crime, and then performed an intentional act in furtherance of the crime is a conspirator.

This is why you don't go to a gun store and say, "I would like to buy a gun to kill my pesky neighbor." They won't sell you the gun.

Oldtimeralso

(1,935 posts)
3. Lock the bastard up
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:05 AM
Jan 2012

Even if they were not allowed to vote, they conspired to violate federal law. Isn't he already on probation?

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
15. I could be wrong, but I think that he could beg Holder to prosecute him and still not be prosecuted
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 12:18 AM
Jan 2012

At the very least, I'ld like to see O'Keefe test this theory.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
8. Sure seems like it would be a probation violation
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:53 AM
Jan 2012
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM152_100929_okeefe.html

pg 2, Standard Conditions of Supervision
9) the defendant shall not associate with any persons engaged in criminal activity

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
17. There is that
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 01:03 PM
Jan 2012

Would love this to reach the level of identifying all of his and his associates financial backers are.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
14. So, what they actually demonstrated is that our current laws can
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jan 2012

handle the overwhelming "voter fraud crisis"?

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