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babylonsister

(171,049 posts)
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:25 AM Aug 2021

Eric Boehlert: NYT demands Cuomo resign -- in four years they never called for Trump to step down

https://pressrun.media/p/new-york-times-demands-cuomo-resign

New York Times demands Cuomo resign — in four years they never called for Trump to step down
Different rules for Dems
Eric Boehlert
2 hr ago


Rushing in to inform readers that in the wake of damning investigation into his history of sexual harassment, New York’s Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo is no longer suited for office, the New York Times editorial page waited barely 24 hours to reach its sweeping conclusion — “Governor Cuomo, You Should Resign.”

“Regardless of what may happen in a court of law, the governor has only one conscionable option left: He should resign,” the Times announced. “If Mr. Cuomo cares for the well-being of the state and its citizens as much as he has said he does over the years, he needs to do the right thing and step down.”


The Times was unequivocal. What made the clarion call so jarring was it came from the same editorial page that refused for four years to demand Trump resign from office — to conclude, as they did regarding Cuomo, that stepping down remained Trump’s “only conscionable option left,” and urging him to do the “right thing.”

Trump ran a criminal enterprise out of the White House, which everyone at the Times understood, and still the paper could not summon the courage to call for his resignation. Yet the Times sprinted into action in order to insist a Democrat step down? The contrast is stunning even if you agree, as so many Democrats do, that Cuomo should leave office.

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By not taking a public stand, newspaper leaders like those at the Times sent a loud, collective message that what Trump was doing to America did not represent a looming crisis; that the country could easily weather the storm and no drastic action was needed. Note that in 2019, New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet said he didn’t really view Trump as being an unprecedented figure in American history, and likened him to Edwin Edwards, a controversial Louisiana Democratic governor from the 1970s and 1980s. (The two men have almost nothing in common.)

It's true that calls for resignation certainly would not have forced Trump from office. They would however, have helped change the national debate and more accurately reflect the crisis our country faced with a tyrannical liar at the helm. And quite simply, the calls would been the right thing to do.

The Times is right, Cuomo should resign. Too bad the paper of record failed to make that same obvious demand while Trump was shaming the Oval Office.
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Eric Boehlert: NYT demands Cuomo resign -- in four years they never called for Trump to step down (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2021 OP
Good point! 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2021 #1
this is why i cant be mad at him if he decides to thug it out. mopinko Aug 2021 #2
This is the exact reason I am no longer a subsciber. lark Aug 2021 #3
I am not going to engage in the GOP's whataboutism RAB910 Aug 2021 #4
Pretty far down on the post (23rd)........ MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #9
Yes it's a good one FakeNoose Aug 2021 #19
Can I rec this sickenly honest cartoon RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #21
If only... 3825-87867 Aug 2021 #5
Or, "just locker room talk". Jetheels Aug 2021 #8
Well, for starters... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #23
The NY Times called for Trump to be impeached and/or ciminally prosecuted. PoliticAverse Aug 2021 #6
Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of NYT. Jetheels Aug 2021 #7
Does all this pressure to resign mean they think the prosecution will fail if it continues? ShazamIam Aug 2021 #10
NYT is schizophrenic. blm Aug 2021 #11
All of this is just too harsh... GoldenMezzoDiva Aug 2021 #12
I think you know the reason why FakeNoose Aug 2021 #20
Flunky editor. Xoan Aug 2021 #13
And no investigation into Al Franken... 3825-87867 Aug 2021 #14
There has never been any doubt as to where the NY Times stood regarding Trump . . . markpkessinger Aug 2021 #15
Yes... tonedevil Aug 2021 #16
Impeachment means never having to say resign. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #17
To be fair, Cuomo's offenses appear unspinnable, while... MrModerate Aug 2021 #18
We were just watching the sheriff's press conference on MSNBC and I remarked to my husband Vinca Aug 2021 #22
Maybe they knew it would have zero effect on a Sociopath like Trump? maxsolomon Aug 2021 #24
Yeah, they Pushed the Bogus Deadly Wan On Iraq too. Cha Aug 2021 #25
It's much worse than that since the KYT knew about many these accusations malaise Aug 2021 #26

mopinko

(70,069 posts)
2. this is why i cant be mad at him if he decides to thug it out.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:38 AM
Aug 2021

i hope he doesnt. i do think we should be better than them.

but we cant just keep tossing the will of the voters. if it was just him, 1 thing.
but w the newsom recall, and allllll the other shenanigans, i just cant be mad.

RAB910

(3,497 posts)
4. I am not going to engage in the GOP's whataboutism
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:58 AM
Aug 2021

Cuomo needs to do the right thing and resign. He has no business occupying the Governor's office. He may be a Democrat, but that only pisses me off even more. I don't want people like him sullying the Democratic brand. He should be ashamed of himself and he needs to finally do the right thing

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,667 posts)
21. Can I rec this sickenly honest cartoon
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:29 PM
Aug 2021

That is the problem, this is NOT a both sides issue.

I remember Bob packwood and the GOP tried very hard to sweep that under the rug

3825-87867

(840 posts)
5. If only...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:02 AM
Aug 2021

Cuomo would have just "grabbed them by the..." it would have been ok!

Not only do the Republicans enjoy double standards under the law but they get a free pass from media who don't give a damn about reality. Probably because of their Republican bosses or simply because they, like the R's, are more concerned with how to make money from the rubes that watch and read their drek. When you get right down to it, reading the Times, listening to the major Network blab et. al. is pretty much the same miniscule, partisanly factual or imaginary information (but misinformation) from Fox. They are basically the same. Prove me wrong!

The media has been the problem maybe more so than Republicans ever since their fragile feelings were hurt by claims of Liberal Bias against them by the same Rs (arse?).

Today's media - anything but fair and balanced - for a buck.

Please don't say anything bad about us, Republicans.
Talk about snowflakes!

Maybe it's time for another "boycott" of the Times and others much like the one that sort of worked a few years ago.


electric_blue68

(14,850 posts)
23. Well, for starters...
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:43 PM
Aug 2021

the 1619 Project.


Which doesn't mean they probably couldn't have done more regarding racism in America.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. The NY Times called for Trump to be impeached and/or ciminally prosecuted.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:27 AM
Aug 2021

Does anyone here seriously think Trump was going to resign?

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
7. Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of NYT.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 10:35 AM
Aug 2021

This critique of the NYT’s position in calling for Cuomo to resign when it did not call for trump to resign, does not fall into the category of whataboutery/ whataboutism, which is a Soviet propaganda tactic often employed by trump and Republicans.

GoldenMezzoDiva

(79 posts)
12. All of this is just too harsh...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:47 AM
Aug 2021

That's why I continue to ask: what's really going on here? Instead of
joining the righteousness bandwagon, I want to know why Cuomo
is being treated like a Cosby. While Trump, Gaetz, etc. seem to be
getting off scot-free...

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
20. I think you know the reason why
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:24 PM
Aug 2021

It's all a set-up because the NY Repukes don't want to run against Andrew Cuomo. They want to run against a weaker candidate, namely Kathy Hochul who is currently Lt. Governor. She would step up and take Cuomo's place if he resigns.

Repukes think they can beat her in the next election. There's a lot at stake because they want a Repuke in the Governor's seat to "pardon" Chump after his conviction. That's something that both Cuomo or Hochul would never do!

3825-87867

(840 posts)
14. And no investigation into Al Franken...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:45 PM
Aug 2021

He was tried and convicted by a few "notables" who jumped to sexist conclusions.

He deserved an investigation maybe more so than Cuomo yet smaller minds were made up and the holier-than-thou lower extremity of the Democratic Party made up their collective minds while the balance didn't want to look as though we were acting like Republiqans.

Sounds eminently fair to me! But maybe we could ask a few of those who wanted Franken neutered how they feel and if they remembered rushing to judgement.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
15. There has never been any doubt as to where the NY Times stood regarding Trump . . .
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 06:16 PM
Aug 2021

. . . Their news items and editorials were quite critical of him from the beginning, and the paper supported both impeachments. If there is any particular reason they didn't specifically call on him to resign, it's probably because they knew it would be futile to do so.

At this point, the Times is merely holding Cuomo to his own conditions. When the allegations surfaced, he lectured the press about waiting until the investigation was completed. Well, now it has been.

There is no reason ANY Democrat should be defending Cuomo. This is not an Al Franken situation. Many of the women who have accused Cuomo were close aides for many, many years, and many had resolved never to come forward, but did so aftre Cuomo and his allies began trying to trash the reputations of those who initially did.

We on the left are (rightly) quick to point out whenever those on the right engage in "whataboutism." This is but another form of it!

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
16. Yes...
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 07:32 PM
Aug 2021

this is what being decent human beings is about. Not getting into a contest with the Republicans to see who's leaders can be the most craven.

Spoiler alert, they will win that contest, but we will still lose our soul for playing.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
18. To be fair, Cuomo's offenses appear unspinnable, while...
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:07 PM
Aug 2021

Trump's offenses had the gloss of the Presidency on them, kind of an autospin.

Vinca

(50,250 posts)
22. We were just watching the sheriff's press conference on MSNBC and I remarked to my husband
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:31 PM
Aug 2021

that it's a real shame the media didn't care a fraction as much about Trump's sexual exploits which were, as reported by the victims, far graver than the things Cuomo is accused of. I'm not a Cuomo fan by any stretch of the imagination, but it seems Democrats merit 24/7 coverage on every channel for things like this. Republicans might get a day of coverage and then it's on to the next Democratic malfeasance.

maxsolomon

(33,276 posts)
24. Maybe they knew it would have zero effect on a Sociopath like Trump?
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 05:19 PM
Aug 2021

It wouldn't have. It would have just been be more grist for the mill.

Cha

(297,032 posts)
25. Yeah, they Pushed the Bogus Deadly Wan On Iraq too.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 05:40 PM
Aug 2021

The NYT should have called for the Treasonous Psycho to Resign.. what the hell were they afraid of?

malaise

(268,846 posts)
26. It's much worse than that since the KYT knew about many these accusations
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 05:43 PM
Aug 2021

before the Slobfather muscled his way to the presidency.

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