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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 08:52 AM Aug 2021

Things Are Falling Apart For Ron DeSantis As Mainstream Media Calls Out His Hypocrisy

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/08/10/things-are-falling-apart-for-ron-desantis-as-mainstream-media-calls-out-his-hypocrisy.html


Posted on Tue, Aug 10th, 2021 by Jason Easley
Things Are Falling Apart For Ron DeSantis As Mainstream Media Calls Out His Hypocrisy
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) is being called out as a small government hypocrite for his authoritarian anti-mask COVID policies.


Video of Willie Geist on MSNBC’s Morning Joe:
Sarah Reese Jones
@PoliticusSarah
Even #MorningJoe is calling DeSantis is small government hypocrite, "Desantis using this top-down pressure of the governor's office to dictate what school boards can do, flies in the face of the argument that he doesn't want the federal government telling him what to do." https://t.co/P3nsEOHi2J
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7:46 AM · Aug 10, 2021


Geist said, “And the idea that Mr. Small Government Desantis is using this top-down pressure of the governor’s office to dictate what school boards can do, flies in the face of the argument that he doesn’t want the federal government telling him what to do these are local issues. But on a human level with no politics involved, a career educator is trying to protect her kids from getting covid, and she’s being threatened now in an official letter she has to answer by 5:00 today with having her funding taken away from the state.”

Republicans Aren’t Really In Favor Of Small Government.

When a Republican says they favor small government, what they mean is a small government for things that they oppose. Masks in schools go from being a personal choice to government mask bans because Ron DeSantis is trying to build a 2024 presidential platform atop the bodies of COVID victims. Small government is Republican code for let me do whatever I want. It has nothing to do with the use of governmental power or decision-making.

Ron DeSantis is following the Trump playbook and running himself and his 2024 presidential hopes straight into the ground.
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Things Are Falling Apart For Ron DeSantis As Mainstream Media Calls Out His Hypocrisy (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2021 OP
Meanwhile, in real time people are dying because of his love of rw power. lark Aug 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2021 #6
Hopefully he miscalculated. The D-variant beginning to infect children. olegramps Aug 2021 #16
I fully support DeSantis' downfall! mrsadm Aug 2021 #37
Lord, yes! ShazzieB Aug 2021 #42
DeSantis needs to made the Poster Boy for the GOP in all upcoming elections. nt joetheman Aug 2021 #2
We're going to need a bigger poster SCantiGOP Aug 2021 #17
God I hope so.. Peacetrain Aug 2021 #3
If it's political calculus, DeathSantis should reveal his cards bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #4
Look at the article Effete Snob Aug 2021 #7
"Ron DeSantis is following the Trump playbook" Effete Snob Aug 2021 #5
I'm not sure that DeSantis has the charisma to win. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #8
I'm certainly not declaring him a winner Effete Snob Aug 2021 #23
He'll just complain durablend Aug 2021 #9
He needs more than the death cult Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #18
I couldn't agree more with your post. FLSurfer Aug 2021 #21
Impeach and remove... RobertDevereaux Aug 2021 #10
Reminds me moreland01 Aug 2021 #11
Not soon enough. BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #12
I thought that his threats to remove funding are just BLUSTER - Fla law prevents this from happening Tommymac Aug 2021 #13
Waiting for Florida newspapers to call for his resignation. Waiting ... NCjack Aug 2021 #14
resignation hell ,time to impeach the sob !!! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #40
Republiqan voters just love shit like this. Mr. Evil Aug 2021 #15
Hey DeSatan Traildogbob Aug 2021 #19
"Republicans Aren't Really In Favor Of Small Government." Of course not, they are hypocrites who Escurumbele Aug 2021 #20
We are s o lucky seta1950 Aug 2021 #22
politico staffers must be panicking Mr. Sparkle Aug 2021 #24
Desantis thought Florida's Covid response would get him the Presidency. Jon King Aug 2021 #25
You can't tell ME what to do! Only I can tell YOU what to do! SledDriver Aug 2021 #26
Hearing some mumbling in Florida that the current numbers for Covid aren't entirely accurate. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #27
The numbers are wrong at least by a factor of 3. ananda Aug 2021 #28
For the number of seniors here, me included, I NEVER thought they could be accurate. Factor in his NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #30
Per What I Saw Here A While Ago... ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #33
Agree- but that's NOW - I'm talking early on when seniors elsewhere in the USA were dying NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #34
Got Ya! ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #35
Rethugs standing for small government is a crock of shit Takket Aug 2021 #29
A Vile Monster is in the Bullpen.. anyone Cha Aug 2021 #31
DeSantis is a failure as a leader. lpbk2713 Aug 2021 #32
About damn time mcar Aug 2021 #36
he's putting his perceived career above even the health of children in his state Skittles Aug 2021 #38
It won't be the Covid deaths that end his career DBoon Aug 2021 #39
Mainly private business. Disney just announced all salaried cast must be vaccination. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #41
I'm kind of surprised that companies have to "negotiate with the unions" on this Effete Snob Aug 2021 #44
It's so weird TlalocW Aug 2021 #43

lark

(23,094 posts)
1. Meanwhile, in real time people are dying because of his love of rw power.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 08:59 AM
Aug 2021

Almost one in every 3 tests here are positive and the hospitals are filled, very little capacity. They are now refusing non-critical surgeries. Baptist CEO put out a press release last week saying if you have a heart attack, stroke, or head trauma come there immediately. Anything else, go to Urgent Care or Primary Care.

What about chemo, what about the woman who discovers a large lump in her breast or a man who has lumps in his armpits? These are also people potentially being killed by Death Sentences RW self-profiting lunacy, besides the obvious Covid deaths.

Response to lark (Reply #1)

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
16. Hopefully he miscalculated. The D-variant beginning to infect children.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:48 AM
Aug 2021

This could prove to be catastrophic if it is allowed to start a mass infection of those under 12 years. This could be the impetus to force inoculation when children returning in mass to school become infected. It could also result in many parents refusing to send their kids to school. The situation could very well result in DeSantis' downfall. Of course the majority of Republican ignoramuses will continue to support him, just as they have with Trump. I have loss any respect or tolerance for Republicans and now longer want to associate with them for any reason. I consider them to be just as dangerous as the most dangerous outlaws with the same contempt for the welfare of people as my view drug dealers who kill people. They are just as revolting and disgusting as vermin.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
42. Lord, yes!
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:20 PM
Aug 2021

And PLEASE may that downfall come FAST! Like immediately, if not sooner!

Of course, it's already taken too long, as I'm sure every doctor and every nurse in every hospital in Florda could attest, but the sooner, the better!



SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
17. We're going to need a bigger poster
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:49 AM
Aug 2021

Need room for Abbott of TX, McMaster of SC, Noem of SD, etc etc

bucolic_frolic

(43,137 posts)
4. If it's political calculus, DeathSantis should reveal his cards
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:21 AM
Aug 2021

Running on policies that kill children would seem a hard sell to most Americans

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
7. Look at the article
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:35 AM
Aug 2021

The headline might just as well be "DeSantis Disliked By MSNBC Talking Heads". It's virtually an endorsement for his prospective candidacy.

He's out there "owning the libs".
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
5. "Ron DeSantis is following the Trump playbook"
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:33 AM
Aug 2021

If so, the "Trump playbook" combined with GOP voter suppression efforts in several states adds up to an electoral win.

But the headline "Things Are Falling Apart" is reminiscent of so many "wheels have come off the bus" stories from 2016.

It is unfortunate that so many media pieces like this convey a sense of triumphalism, almost as if someone wanted to convey the impression that we do not need to work to develop, promote and elect candidates, but merely need to await the self-destruction of our opponents.

Nothing is "falling apart" for DeathSentence. He is every bit as much Florida's governor as we was last week and will be next week, and is wildly popular among those who will be allowed to vote in the next election.

This headline merely adorns a Tweeted video clip from an MSNBC program. For many, the message "tongues are being wagged at DeSantis on MSNBC" is a practical endorsement of his candidacy.

This is the kind of free advertising he needs.

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
8. I'm not sure that DeSantis has the charisma to win.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:38 AM
Aug 2021

Trump has a dumb charisma that some people inexplicably find charming. It remains to be seen if DeSantis can pull off a nationwide win. I’m certainly not writing it off but I like Biden’s chances (as of now).

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
18. He needs more than the death cult
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:51 AM
Aug 2021

in order to have a chance in 2024 and he’s done nothing to win the more moderate part of the electorate over.

FLSurfer

(431 posts)
21. I couldn't agree more with your post.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:12 AM
Aug 2021

"Nothing is "falling apart" for DeathSentence. He is every bit as much Florida's governor as we was last week and will be next week, and is wildly popular among those who will be allowed to vote in the next election."

There is still and has been for years, a net migration into Florida of +1000 people per day.
I can tell you from the ground here, not many of them appear to be liberals.
Had a guy tell me last weekend how happy he is to have moved into the "Last Free State"
Florida is F-ed for at least a generation after this Trump/Desantis mess.

moreland01

(738 posts)
11. Reminds me
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:00 AM
Aug 2021

of another young, upwardly mobile, republican presidential hopeful from Florida going down in flames . . . Marco Rubio.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
13. I thought that his threats to remove funding are just BLUSTER - Fla law prevents this from happening
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:07 AM
Aug 2021

Just like his idol TFG, EMPTY Bullying Threats to try and scare people into doing his bidding.

Haven't WE as a People Learned ANYTHING??????

Don't answer that.

Mr. Evil

(2,840 posts)
15. Republiqan voters just love shit like this.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:41 AM
Aug 2021

All you have to do as a republiqan candidate is pretend to be a tough guy. A big blabbering cowboy or quote a fictional movie character over and over is all that is required. That's all they care about. Phony, lying tough guys.

Fucking pathetic and now proving to be quite dangerous.

Traildogbob

(8,720 posts)
19. Hey DeSatan
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:52 AM
Aug 2021

If you are gonna kill babies for GQP power, can we purchase their blood, filled with fear and adrenaline from knowing they are being killed by you, for our cocktails. The cash can help your campaign, And we get our secret political power to rule the world with socialism.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
20. "Republicans Aren't Really In Favor Of Small Government." Of course not, they are hypocrites who
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:00 AM
Aug 2021

understand the gullibility of their base, so they made this list of "things to say", "things to do" but do not mean, like "family values", "morals", "their talk about religion and god", it is all a lie but their base eats it up.

The "Death Panels" thing when Obama was trying to get the ACA done, that is nothing but projection, they are the murderers and they prove it every day.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
25. Desantis thought Florida's Covid response would get him the Presidency.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:33 AM
Aug 2021

He was so cocky thinking Florida's early numbers and no restrictions would make him the man in 2024. Trumpy, but not quite as polarizing.

But the Delta variant said not so fast. Too bad so many have to suffer to prove he was always an idiot.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,415 posts)
27. Hearing some mumbling in Florida that the current numbers for Covid aren't entirely accurate.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:40 AM
Aug 2021

littleRon has his hands in those files I would imagine to try and salvage his momo.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,415 posts)
30. For the number of seniors here, me included, I NEVER thought they could be accurate. Factor in his
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:55 AM
Aug 2021

office seizing control of the dissemination of the numbers I KNEW the fix was in.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
33. Per What I Saw Here A While Ago...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 04:22 PM
Aug 2021

...the senior population of Florida is highly vaccinated.
IIRC, it was well over 90%.
That might explain the disconnect between what we're seeing & what you, otherwise reasonably, expected.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,415 posts)
34. Agree- but that's NOW - I'm talking early on when seniors elsewhere in the USA were dying
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 04:58 PM
Aug 2021

at a rapid clip and there was NO vaccine. DeathSentence took control of the nursing home and assisted living stats as I recall.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
29. Rethugs standing for small government is a crock of shit
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 11:54 AM
Aug 2021

And I don’t know how it keeps getting perpetuated.

Rethugs spend more money, drive up debt faster, and what to tell everyone what to do with their lives including literally who people are allowed to love and what a woman is allowed to do with her womb.

Desantis is no different.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
32. DeSantis is a failure as a leader.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 04:12 PM
Aug 2021


This is the point his critics should home in on.

It seems like everything he does is wrong.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
38. he's putting his perceived career above even the health of children in his state
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:51 PM
Aug 2021

DeSantis is sickening beyond belief.....a monster.

DBoon

(22,357 posts)
39. It won't be the Covid deaths that end his career
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:56 PM
Aug 2021

It will be his inability to control the local governments, schools boards and private businesses that flout his Covid dictates.

To the GOP mind, death is not a concern, but weakness is unforgivable. DeSantis can't control the Miami-Dade school district, major cruise lines, etc. This makes him weak and ineffective.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
41. Mainly private business. Disney just announced all salaried cast must be vaccination.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 09:11 PM
Aug 2021

Are in negotiations with the unions to make it company wide.

I’m not aware he has attacked them. Because politicians in Florida don’t fuck with Disney. Not if they are smart, so I expect the Governor to attack them soon. 70K employees mandated to get the vaccine.

Once the vaccine is FDA fully approved it will become common. Businesses saw their revenue crash. They want this to end.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
44. I'm kind of surprised that companies have to "negotiate with the unions" on this
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 09:11 AM
Aug 2021

Maybe I'm nuts, but I would assume the unions would be demanding it as part of safe workplace requirements.

Give them paid time off or a small bonus to get it, and Bob's your uncle.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
43. It's so weird
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:53 PM
Aug 2021

Here is a guy - TFG - who has basically screwed over or destroyed anyone who ever worked with or for him - either the incompetence rubbed off onto other people's reputations, or the first time they did something remotely "disloyal," he threw them under the bus. His way of doing things ultimately lead to his own defeat, and other people who tried to follow his example fared just as badly. What makes republicans still say, "Yeah, I'm going to be the next TFG/kiss up to him?"

TlalocW

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