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Gov. Gavin Newsom FTW! (Original Post) Tommymac Aug 2021 OP
Is this enough? What are dems doing to GOTV in California? Merlot Aug 2021 #1
Ask and Ye Shall recieve: Tommymac Aug 2021 #3
Wow, thanks for that! Merlot Aug 2021 #4
I've received three texts so far tishaLA Aug 2021 #9
Crickets over here. Merlot Aug 2021 #28
https://postcardstovoters.org/ has a campaign for the recall too. catrose Aug 2021 #11
Thanks! Tommymac Aug 2021 #18
Even those of us who can't march/walk and die over phone catrose Aug 2021 #25
As a homegirl Aug 2021 #5
Won't that invalidate your NO vote? Glorfindel Aug 2021 #6
No it's phrased as dickthegrouch Aug 2021 #17
my thought too. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2021 #26
No, it's a just in case thing Sympthsical Aug 2021 #27
Seems the Democratic leadership of CA finds it a risk worth taking. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #32
Maybe I have a mind of my own? Sympthsical Aug 2021 #34
It's an own goal solution. plimsoll Aug 2021 #10
no. just vote no. don't do anything else. IcyPeas Aug 2021 #13
Will that mean Gov Gavin gets no votes if recall succeeds? Tommymac Aug 2021 #19
you don't need to write anything in. just answer the first question. IcyPeas Aug 2021 #20
I understand that. BUT What If the YES side WINS... Tommymac Aug 2021 #22
this short article explains it. IcyPeas Aug 2021 #23
Gavin Newsom is a far better write in than anything else dickthegrouch Aug 2021 #16
Or they are rethug/QAnon fakes trying to divide the vote. Tommymac Aug 2021 #21
Won't work:( dickthegrouch Aug 2021 #30
What was that deal I read about putting Newsom's name EndlessWire Aug 2021 #36
K & R . . . Lovie777 Aug 2021 #2
As long as people vote, the recall will fail JohnSJ Aug 2021 #7
Just got my ballot today! n/t aggiesal Aug 2021 #8
Return by Sept 14! I just wrote postcards telling people that. catrose Aug 2021 #12
Filling it out and ... aggiesal Aug 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author catrose Aug 2021 #24
want to add that right wing hate radio has been promoting this recall FOR MONTHS IcyPeas Aug 2021 #14
It's beyond reason the 5th largest economy in the world is this vulnerable Merlot Aug 2021 #29
The past year has been really bad for California ansible Aug 2021 #31
Well if Democrats don't understand that electing a righty is the wrong thing to do than Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #33
Maybe Newsom shouldn't have blocked other democratic candidates from the ballot then ansible Aug 2021 #35
If they win EndlessWire Aug 2021 #37

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
1. Is this enough? What are dems doing to GOTV in California?
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 01:30 PM
Aug 2021

the republicans are highly motivated to be governed by someone who only gets 20% (at most) of the vote. That's how they like it.

If Newsom were recalled there should be a second election where they actually have to campaign. In the mean time, the state would be run by the lt. governor.

Why can't California fix this recall system? Is it a law or in the constitution? Because it's wrong that we could loose a governor who got well over 50% of the vote due to 10% of the population signing a petition and then picking a name off a list. California can do better than this.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
4. Wow, thanks for that!
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 01:53 PM
Aug 2021

I've been concerned because I usually receive GOTV calls or request to volunteer but it's been all quiet here. Now at least I can be pro-active.

Though I'm still pissed that we're in this situation. First we get through it, then do we fix it?

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
9. I've received three texts so far
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 03:15 PM
Aug 2021

from Newsom's folks asking me to confirm that I'll be a no on that recall. I thought everybody was getting them.

catrose

(5,065 posts)
11. https://postcardstovoters.org/ has a campaign for the recall too.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:19 PM
Aug 2021

They give you addresses (no names), and you write postcards to Democrats. I just sent 50 to Bakersfield.

homegirl

(1,427 posts)
5. As a
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 02:28 PM
Aug 2021

California voter i will vote NO and then proceed to the very last box on the choices. WHICH IS A WRITE IN choice. SO FAR MY INTENTION IS EITHER MINNIE MOUSE OR MY OWN NAME.

any suggestions?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
26. my thought too.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 05:21 PM
Aug 2021

I don't understand why this is the solution to the last recall when we wound up with Schwarzenegger. I wish he'd endorse Newsom. He cares about climate change and clean energy. The Teapublicans care about nothing but shrinking the govt and taking an ax to democracy. This recall appears tailor made for them.

Sympthsical

(9,056 posts)
27. No, it's a just in case thing
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 06:03 PM
Aug 2021

The second question is who becomes governor if the recall succeeds.

I still think it's madness people are being urged to leave it blank. If Repubs coalesce, and Democrats do whatever, we can get hosed if the recall works.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. Seems the Democratic leadership of CA finds it a risk worth taking.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:36 PM
Aug 2021

But sure... calling it madness works too.

Sympthsical

(9,056 posts)
34. Maybe I have a mind of my own?
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 09:23 PM
Aug 2021

It does happen with people from time to time.

Do you have a search function for me of late?

Flattering, but weird.

Mostly weird.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
10. It's an own goal solution.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 03:18 PM
Aug 2021

We can complain about voting for the least worse candidate all we want, but that's really what it boils down to. Newsom may not be %100, but you can be sure the GOP will run someone infinitely worse.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
19. Will that mean Gov Gavin gets no votes if recall succeeds?
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:51 PM
Aug 2021

I am not in Cali...I thought you need to put a name there no matter what.

This needs further explanation with sources/links. Very confusing - and we DON'T need Confusion. See Palm Beach County.

Anyone?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
22. I understand that. BUT What If the YES side WINS...
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:58 PM
Aug 2021

then we need to have a viable candidate in the write in section - that is my understanding.

Newsome can be recalled but still retain office if enough folks vote for him in the crowded field.

This really needs official explanation.

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
23. this short article explains it.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 05:04 PM
Aug 2021
https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article253313383.html

any write-in's could take away votes from Newsom:

Soon, Californians will receive their ballot for the election to recall Gov. Gavin Newsom. That ballot will have two questions: Should Newsom be recalled and, if so, who should take his place.

For many Democrats and other opponents of the recall, question No. 1 is easy. They plan to vote ‘no’.

But what about question No. 2?

That’s a dilemma for Democrats because the best-known recall candidates are Republicans like Newsom’s 2018 opponent John Cox and conservative talk radio host Larry Elder. By not voting on question No. 2, Democratic voters risk ceding the recall election to a candidate whose views they oppose.

There are 46 candidates on the recall ballot, including nine Democrats.

The California Democratic Party is urging left-leaning voters not to select anyone on the recall ballot’s second question.

“The California Democratic Party is activating voters to vote no on the Republican Recall and leave the second question blank. It’s the only way to stop Republicans who want to take California back to some very dark days,” said party spokeswoman Shery Yang.

Former Newsom spokesman, Nathan Click, reiterated Yang’s advice for Democratic voters.

“Leave it blank. Voting no is the only way to block the Republican power grab and prevent the Republican takeover of California,” Click said.

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
16. Gavin Newsom is a far better write in than anything else
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:33 PM
Aug 2021

I’m disgusted that there are so many selections, I won’t dignify them as actual choices, for the replacement.
46 candidates, 24 of whom are GPO.
But 8 stupid (unknown, egotistical) dems. One dem to prevent a split vote would have been a far better strategy.
I don’t actually recognize any of the dem candidate names. Pure folly. Gaming the system. Utterly contemptible.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
21. Or they are rethug/QAnon fakes trying to divide the vote.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:55 PM
Aug 2021

Happened to one state rep candidate in the 2020 Florida election - the rethugs ran a person with the same last name as the Dem incumbent and he split the vote and the incumbent lost by just a few votes - the fake guy got thousands.

Very common tactic over the years.

The GOP got caught, but don't think that invalidated the election results - the GOP crazy got seated.

EndlessWire

(6,477 posts)
36. What was that deal I read about putting Newsom's name
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:28 PM
Aug 2021

in the write in spot? What was wrong with that? Does that invalidate your vote?

aggiesal

(8,908 posts)
15. Filling it out and ...
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:31 PM
Aug 2021

dropping it off at the ROV on Monday.
I have some questions about the envelope.

Response to aggiesal (Reply #8)

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
14. want to add that right wing hate radio has been promoting this recall FOR MONTHS
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 04:28 PM
Aug 2021

they are giving all the free advertising and publicity to the GOPers on the ballot. EVERY. DAMN. DAY. that is how their side is reaching so many who want to recall.

VOTE NO

Larry Elder is a right wing hack, no nothing who knows nothing about running the fifth largest economy in the world. it would be an utter disaster.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
29. It's beyond reason the 5th largest economy in the world is this vulnerable
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 07:14 PM
Aug 2021

to take over by right wing fanatics. This recall issue really needs to be fixed.

OTOH, if Newsom is recalled, how long will it take to recall the "winner?"

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
33. Well if Democrats don't understand that electing a righty is the wrong thing to do than
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:53 PM
Aug 2021

they get what they deserve.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
35. Maybe Newsom shouldn't have blocked other democratic candidates from the ballot then
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 09:38 PM
Aug 2021
A few months back, Newsom made the hubristic and selfish decision to block any and all high-profile Democratic contenders from putting their name on the second ballot. There are, however, nine lower-tier Democrats on the ballot, including a 29 -year-old YouTube influencer who is apparently leading the pack. But they are all political lightweights with no experience on California’s main stage. Newsom’s strategic gamble in keeping the second ballot effectively Democrat-free has opened up a window of opportunity for the GOP: Out of the more than two dozen Republicans on the ballot, there are five or six with a shot at victory. Each stands a fairly good chance of being elected with only about 15 to 20 percent of the vote, in an election in which few eligible voters appear likely to cast a vote in the first place.


https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/california-recall-election/

EndlessWire

(6,477 posts)
37. If they win
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:34 PM
Aug 2021

they can be in long enough to do tremendous damage. We must not let them win.

I had no idea how "irritated" I'd be with Caitlyn Jenner. I never want to see that face again.

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