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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:29 AM Aug 2021

"It's like my identity is about to be scrubbed out."

As Kabul is about to fall...



Taliban Spokesman Shaheen says: “We will respect rights of women...our policy is that women will have access to education and work, to wear the hijab.”

He restated the Taliban’s position that “no one should leave the country...we need all the talents and capacity, we need all of us to stay in the country and participate”.


He is lying. Girls and women are about to go through a world of pain. I would be heading to the border at speed right now if I was an Afghani. And the US and the UK had better make sure they are prepared for the waves of asylum seekers which will land because of the troop withdrawal and the fallout of it.

Afghan women’s defiance and despair: ‘I never thought I’d have to wear a burqa. My identity will be lost’

In some households, the burqa has sparked divisive inter-generational conflicts. The parents of 26-year-old Habiba are begging her and her sisters to get a burqa before the Taliban enter the city, but she is resisting.

“My mother says we should buy a burqa. My parents are afraid of the Taliban. My mother thinks that one of the ways she can protect her daughters is to make them wear the burqa,” she says.

“But we have no burqa in our home, and I have no intention of getting one. I don’t want to hide behind a curtain-like cloth. If I wear the burqa, it means that I have accepted the Taliban’s government. I have given them the right to control me. Wearing a chador is the beginning of my sentence as a prisoner in my house. I’m afraid of losing the accomplishments I fought for so hard.”

[link:https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/aug/15/afghan-womens-defiance-and-despair-i-never-thought-id-have-to-wear-a-burqa-my-identity-will-be-lost|]

Lets be honest - when the coalition forces went into Afghanistan it was not anything to do with the rights of women and girls, but a happy by-product has been the opening up of freedoms in a way that cannot be imagined under Taliban rule. We are already reading reports of women being sent home from work and university. A new dark age is emerging at speed.
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"It's like my identity is about to be scrubbed out." (Original Post) Soph0571 Aug 2021 OP
It doesn't seem that anybody wants to fight for their country in Afghanistan jimfields33 Aug 2021 #1
What's happening in Afghanistan is a cautionary tale for American democracy. ariadne0614 Aug 2021 #2
Democrats were the ones earlier talking about women/girls rights and we KNEW that we would LizBeth Aug 2021 #3

jimfields33

(15,450 posts)
1. It doesn't seem that anybody wants to fight for their country in Afghanistan
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 07:42 AM
Aug 2021

I’m sure they will try to fight wearing burkas but that’s just ones aspect of what they should be fighting. After 20 years, did Afghanistan learn anything at all from us?

ariadne0614

(1,692 posts)
2. What's happening in Afghanistan is a cautionary tale for American democracy.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:26 AM
Aug 2021

How many Americans are any better at fighting for our own Constitution? Too many of us can't be bothered to vote, stay informed, or even pick up the phone and call our elected representatives. The Taliban tRumplican seditionists must be licking their chops and taking notes as they watch the carnage in Afghanistan.

LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
3. Democrats were the ones earlier talking about women/girls rights and we KNEW that we would
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 11:51 AM
Aug 2021

accomplish nothing attacking Afghanistan even for that important reason. There was no interest from Republicans. You are right, Bush had no interest in women/girls and only mouthed off about that to bolster argument to invade.

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