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Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:31 PM

I've never seen a statesman such as Joe Biden

in all of my 73 years. He transcends the idea of politician. He transcends the idea of presidency. I won't live to see another of his ilk. I hope that you do. And I hope that you young legislators learn from the best, because he is.

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Reply I've never seen a statesman such as Joe Biden (Original post)
dianaredwing Aug 2021 OP
LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #1
Skittles Aug 2021 #2
dianaredwing Aug 2021 #3
Skittles Aug 2021 #6
dianaredwing Aug 2021 #11
Skittles Aug 2021 #12
dianaredwing Aug 2021 #13
pazzyanne Aug 2021 #14
Grokenstein Aug 2021 #17
MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #15
FalloutShelter Aug 2021 #4
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #5
Skittles Aug 2021 #7
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #9
COL Mustard Aug 2021 #22
dianaredwing Aug 2021 #8
brush Aug 2021 #10
Hortensis Aug 2021 #16
Botany Aug 2021 #18
Jon King Aug 2021 #19
Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #20
vanlassie Aug 2021 #21
Tetrachloride Aug 2021 #23
soldierant Aug 2021 #24
LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #25

Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:33 PM

1. I have been fortunate enough to meet Joe twice in person and I agree

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:34 PM

2. what brought this on

?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:38 PM

3. Just reading all the crap

that the talking heads spout, seemingly ignorant of the intricities of statecraft.

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Response to dianaredwing (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:42 PM

6. you mean, how fucked up Afghanistan is right now?

you know, even more fucked up than usual?

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Response to Skittles (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:54 PM

11. Not just that

But the Covid crap and everybody whining. Fix it now or you aren't doing your job. I just hate whiners and our country seems to be infested with them. As does the world. Nothing is contained within a single country. We are a global entity and it is all tied in together. Therefore, our leaders must be able to not only lead their own nations, but somehow negotiate with other countries. Covid is not deterred by manmade borders.

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Response to dianaredwing (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:57 PM

12. I feel like Biden has done all he can do for Covid

he's not the only one unable to crack cult behavior

Afghanistan, well, that is bad, no question about it......it LOOKS like not enough was done to prepare for was has always been INEVITABLE

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Response to Skittles (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:04 PM

13. You do the best you can with what you've got

At least you should. And I think that Biden does that. You can't change people who don't want to change whether they are American anti-vaxers or Afghanis.

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Response to dianaredwing (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:28 PM

14. Bingo!!! nt

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Response to dianaredwing (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:48 PM

17. "Fix it now or you aren't doing your job."

"Also we will fight every step you take to fix it. SO FIX IT NOW!!"

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Response to dianaredwing (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:40 PM

15. THAT is what was SO glaringly obvious with IQ45........

he had NO CLUE about the job - the 'statecraft' - the 'leadership' - the 'commitment' - the RESPONSIBILITY of the position.
Joe has seen it all from his years in DC - and has learned his lessons well.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:39 PM

4. Totally agree.

Joe is the right man for our time. He is the best.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:41 PM

5. He's great, but I'm not going that far, personally (nt)

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:44 PM

7. oh come on, Hugh!

he is.....A DEITY! GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:48 PM

9. Better this than the other shit I've been hearing, but ... you know me ...

I really try to deal in reality as best as humanly possible

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:25 PM

22. Dude...Abide

😄

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:48 PM

8. Statescraft is something that goes beyond mere governing

And very few have it. I would suggest that perhaps Lincoln had it. I don't know anyone in my lifetime, however, who seemed to be able to leave his ego behind and do what he saw was the right thing regardless of personal consequences, to make the resolution somehow more tolerable to all parties. I'm not saying he has no foibles, as we all do, but in his job, he is superb.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 08:51 PM

10. He's not backing down. He's owning the evacuation. We know it good have gone better...

but who expected the Afghan army to fold like cheap suits in a matter of a few days. He doesn't make the logistics decisions. The military does but they didn't expect the Afghanis to give up so easily either. They thought they had much more time.

But now that the evacuation is under way, I'm glad Joe Biden made the move that had to be done after twenty year of lost national treasure in training soldiers who ultimately wouldn't fight for their own nation.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:43 PM

16. I'm so glad we have our President Biden, we definitely caught a break

when he was able to run, but also believe he's not nearly so unique as some imagine. Sure, not many have as many years of experience, including in the WH, but personal ability and principles, absolutely.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:49 PM

18. And right now President Joe and the K-Bomb are ...

... building what will be an almost unstoppable of a new Democratic Party. Joe has skills.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:01 PM

19. Meanwhile back on Earth 1 as Rachel says....

Rachel just had on a guest who spoke to a bunch of people at the airport in Kabul. A few hundred troops with zero supplies. The soldiers are saying they do not even have barb wire to establish the perimeter they need to establish. They said the surge in state department personnel they were promised yesterday never arrived.

Sorry, the administration needs to get its head out of its tail on this matter.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:09 PM

20. Amen

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:21 PM

21. When I was so sure I wanted Elizabeth Warren,

I was naive. Only JOE has/has the depth of experience to be in this moment. Period.

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Response to vanlassie (Reply #21)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 10:59 PM

23. I was a Joe Kamala combination supporter

for quite a while. i had a spreadsheet to measure electability.

The effectiveness of Team Blue: Joe Kamala Nancy Pelosi Chuck Schumer and Team Georgia Staci Abrams really exceeded my expectations.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 11:14 PM

24. I agree, and am very glad you posted this.

I'm 76 , so I won't live to see another either.

But I really get tired of blame,and even more of misplaced blame.

Though I was already signed up, I was not looking at DU in 2016, but I was looking elsewhere, and I'm thinking this is starting to look a whole lot like 2016.

On a separate but relatd topic, I also wish people would stop asking/petitioning elected officials to so something which is not their job. I just received an email from someone who should know better asking me to petition President Biden to tell the DOJ to prosecute Trump** Why can't people see that that would be one of the worst kinds of corruption? Telling the DOJ to prosecute someone who happens to be a political enemy? No, Joe is not going to do that, and stop asking him to! If you want the Department of Justice told to prosecute Trump**, tell them yourself. The DOJ represents the people, and you're a people.

When Republicans claim Nancy Pelosi is responsible for Capitol Security (in case you missed it, she isn't), I expect that - from Republicans, even ones who know better, because they don't care, they just want to hurt her. I don't expect such from Democrats, Liberals, Progressives.

I apologize for letting what was supposed to be an expression of gratitude turn into a rant. But I think I'll leave it.

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Response to dianaredwing (Original post)

Wed Aug 18, 2021, 01:31 AM

25. For this thread

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