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Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:30 PM

Thank goodness for Amy Goodman's news and perspective, speaking truth to power.

Mr. Hoh seemed to actually be informed and matter of fact.

https://www.democracynow.org/2021/8/18/matthew_hoh_afghanistan_war

The horseshit coming down on MSM, everyone’s denial that we were nation building, the insistence that women’s lot was so much better under the propped up, corrupt government when the majority of women still suffered the age old indignaties, the silent blind eye to drug lords etc. makes it impossible to believe anything “official”.

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Reply Thank goodness for Amy Goodman's news and perspective, speaking truth to power. (Original post)
Magoo48 Aug 18 OP
Mosby Aug 18 #1
Magoo48 Aug 18 #2
soryang Aug 18 #3

Response to Magoo48 (Original post)

Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:56 PM

1. Hoh is one of those "both sides are the same" people

Not a fan of Obama, Biden or the Democratic party.


https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/11/04/third-party-now-for-2024/

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Response to Mosby (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 18, 2021, 01:04 PM

2. Where Afghanistan is concerned, we've been bullshited by everyone.

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Response to Magoo48 (Original post)

Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:12 PM

3. this reminds me of Chalmers Johnson's book on Peasant Nationalism and communist power

An invading force will enhance the patriotic credentials of whatever organized group is seen to be committed to expelling them. Whether they are communists, or Islamists doesn't really matter that much. Their ideological nature is secondary to their strategy and competence in organizing ordinary people to eliminate any invader perceived as harming community interests. Groups allied with the invader are intrinsically weakened by their perceived collaboration with the invaders causing community harm. Counterinsurgency strategies typically do little more than arouse further nationalist indignation. There may be areas where this isn't the case, but those areas in the end lose legitimacy by their political affiliation with and dependency on foreign intruders. One can forestall the eventual outcome by the use of brute force, but typically the ever increasing commitment of resources to hold off the inevitable national outcome becomes unsustainable.

It's conceivable that covert foreign support for "warlords" could also disrupt a return to stability and national government, but in a sense, their legitimacy is already tainted by the history of the war thus far.

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