Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:59 AM
babylonsister (170,224 posts)
Eric Alterman: How Low Can They Go? The Media's Afghan Coverage
The American Prospect
Altercation: How Low Can They Go? The Media’s Afghan Coverage To assess the withdrawal, mainstream media go to the ‘experts’ who were wrong or lied about the war for the past 20 years. by Eric Alterman August 20, 2021 snip// One could write an entire doctoral dissertation on the multiple, overlapping failures that have characterized most of the mainstream media coverage of the collapse of the 20-year war in Afghanistan. So many of the pathologies that interfere with its ability to tell simple truths about our country and our world are being run through this wringer that it would take literally hundreds of pages to do justice to all of them; to explain how they operate across our media institutions and why they operate the way they do. Ironically, the splintering of these same institutions made possible by the internet has allowed some writers and analysts to capture a few of these, practically in real time. The most obvious among the myriad failures of mainstream coverage of the crisis is its stubborn ahistoricism. The Biden administration may have screwed up the exit of U.S. troops and the friendly Afghans who helped them, but hey, this was a 20-year, nearly $2.4 trillion war effort that was built on lies and self-delusion and that we didn’t really want to win in the first place. Prospect alumnus Matt Yglesias does a fine job of laying out some of the history that ought to be included in any story about who is to blame, but almost never is, in his Substack essay “Biden (and Trump) Did the Right Thing on Afghanistan.” snip// I find myself a little shocked to be recommending a piece by someone who is not only “vice president for research and policy at the Charles Koch Institute” but was also “President Donald Trump’s nominee for ambassador to Afghanistan.” But this William Ruger fellow, writing in The National Interest, is also a veteran of the war in Afghanistan, and most importantly, makes a great deal of sense. He praises Biden for “displaying real courage by sticking with a decision that remains prudential given the realities about Afghanistan and the United States. Biden is showing the requisite realist spine that America needs at this moment.” Ruger mocks his critics who claim the U.S. “could have stayed longer at a low cost, all the while preserving an Afghan government that was already teetering when even more American boots were on the ground. They also place the blame for the collapse we are seeing on withdrawal rather than on the failed two decade-long Afghan nation-building project and its architects.” Getting down to proverbial brass tacks, he indicts most MSM coverage because the critics in question “were those same [Afghan war] architects, along with their advisors and supporters outside government. Indeed, these were often the very people who the Washington Post’s Craig Whitlock outed in his Afghanistan Papers series as having had little clue how to find success in Afghanistan and who consistently misled the American people about the state of the war. Moreover, these critics are committed to propping up another, much grander failed project—the primacist approach to the Greater Middle East and the world more generally.” more... https://prospect.org/world/altercation-how-low-can-they-go-medias-afghan-coverage/
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babylonsister | Aug 2021 | OP |
Lovie777 | Aug 2021 | #1 | |
spanone | Aug 2021 | #2 | |
CrispyQ | Aug 2021 | #3 | |
11 Bravo | Aug 2021 | #4 | |
dalton99a | Aug 2021 | #5 | |
Lonestarblue | Aug 2021 | #6 | |
The Roux Comes First | Aug 2021 | #7 | |
Moebym | Aug 2021 | #10 | |
BannonsLiver | Aug 2021 | #8 | |
Moebym | Aug 2021 | #9 | |
crickets | Aug 2021 | #11 | |
Martin68 | Aug 2021 | #12 | |
mcar | Aug 2021 | #13 | |
Evolve Dammit | Aug 2021 | #14 | |
Magoo48 | Aug 2021 | #15 |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:00 AM
Lovie777 (7,769 posts)
1. Pretty low . . .
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 11:09 AM
CrispyQ (33,901 posts)
3. An article worth reading & bookmarking. -nt
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:14 PM
11 Bravo (23,669 posts)
4. I'm thinking whale shit ... at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.
Or perhaps slightly lower than that.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:18 PM
dalton99a (74,416 posts)
5. Nation building was a neocon scam.
It was beyond idiocy to try to make Afghanistan into a mirror image of the U.S. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:47 PM
Lonestarblue (7,385 posts)
6. Rachel had an interview last night with John Sopko, someone I had never heard of.
He is the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction and has been conducting investigations for 20 years. He basically said last night the the failures to accomplish anything meaningful have been known by the military leaders for years, but they were determined to spread pixie dust to make it appear as if progress were being made. It wasn’t. I haven’t had time to read the report he has just released yet, but here’s a link for anyone who wants to read it and a short excerpt.
https://www.sigar.mil/interactive-reports/what-we-need-to-learn/ “The U.S. government has now spent 20 years and $145 billion trying to rebuild Afghanistan, its security forces, civilian government institutions, economy, and civil society. The Department of Defense (DOD) has also spent $837 billion on warfighting, during which 2,443 American troops and 1,144 allied troops have been killed and 20,666 U.S. troops injured. Afghans, meanwhile, have faced an even greater toll. At least 66,000 Afghan troops have been killed. More than 48,000 Afghan civilians have been killed, and at least 75,000 have been injured since 2001—both likely significant underestimations. … After conducting more than 760 interviews and reviewing thousands of government documents, our lessons learned analysis has revealed a troubled reconstruction effort that has yielded some success but has also been marked by too many failures. Using this body of work, as well as the work of other oversight organizations, SIGAR has identified seven key lessons that span the entire 20-year campaign and can be used in other conflict zones around the globe.” |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:53 PM
The Roux Comes First (1,042 posts)
7. How Many More Fully-subscribed, Counterinsurgency-worshipping Generals
Can they track down to come on in prime time and tell us how just another surge would have done it, oh HOW could Biden have blown it just before our victory was complete!?!
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Response to The Roux Comes First (Reply #7)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:48 PM
Moebym (989 posts)
10. Keeping up the illusion that this war was winnable
To benefit the military industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned us about roughly 70 years ago (?) and the news media that loves to cover bloody conflicts because they know viewers can't tear our eyeballs from the shocking images playing on an interminable loop on our TVs. That's all it is.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:43 PM
Moebym (989 posts)
9. It's one thing to give opposing viewpoints equal airtime
It's quite another for the coverage to be overwhelmingly negative while largely shutting out one perspective.
This entire situation is much more complex, nuanced and thorny than it appears on the surface. The images coming from Afghanistan were and still are shocking and heart-rending, and most of us have been on an emotional rollercoaster these past few days, but there is plenty of blame to go around for it, and there is no easy solution no matter what anyone says. What we need are responsible adults discussing the context and background of the conflict, not irresponsible rabble-rousers playing the most shocking clips on loop in their bid to keep our anger at a high level for views and clicks. |
Response to Moebym (Reply #9)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:36 PM
crickets (24,701 posts)
11. Well said. The media are completely off the page right now. nt
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:25 PM
Martin68 (20,359 posts)
12. Right on!
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 05:55 PM
mcar (40,602 posts)
13. This is excellent
Thank you.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 07:09 PM
Evolve Dammit (14,252 posts)
14. "Liberal media" Ya right. Very poor
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 09:00 AM
Magoo48 (3,898 posts)
15. Corporate media will always be right-wing.
I listen to Democracy Now here in SoCal as well as KPFK, listener supported radio.
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