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Several discussions on Twitter and also this morning at the diner. Last weekend before school, I took the guys to the diner early for breakfast, folks are saying we left aircraft and that they could attack the u.s.a . No those aircraft are A29 prop driven built for tactical air they have no range and no threat to us. As for the Blackhawks I imagine they are all first or second series and were not equipped with latest technology, hummers oh well besides upgrading with hillbilly armor in that troops on the ground always adding more sandbags or armor now the taliban will have to constantly find fuel for them.
And we left the ANA with old M16a2 and equipment to fight , I read that some Ana units had no food for weeks hungry no motivation to fight and rampant corruption in senior Afghan army command, you would think do I really want to fight if youre sane in thought yea no , time to save your hide Im out of here . I personally am more worried over the women and children that will be living under the taliban, I read girls as young as fifteen are being gifted to fighters fuqing sick poor girls.
A Soviet soldier a friend of mine who I work with told me , when they quit in 89 the kremlin did the same with equipment and they also knew in 89 the Afghan army they trained would not last.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)I agree with your assessment about ANA. They were in this for the paychecks only.
Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)Wait until they try to get the repair parts.
FTR, when the Shah of Iran was overthrown the US left a squadron of F14s, at the time the most sophisticated fighter the US had, behind. AFAIK, Iran was never able to make those planes operational.
Worried2020
(444 posts).
Iran's F-14 Tomcats Were Built in the 1970s. How Are They Still Flying?
David Axe
June 26, 2020
https://news.yahoo.com/irans-f-14-tomcats-were-130000036.html#:~:text=Today%20Iran%27s%2040%20or%20so,was%20a%20product%20of%20failure.
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For the next five decades, the United States would do everything in its power short of war to ground the ayatollahs Tomcats. But the Americans failed. Through a combination of engineering ingenuity and audacious espionage, Iran kept its F-14s in working order and even improved them. The swing-wing fighters took to the air in several conflicts and even occasionally confronted American planes.
Today Irans 40 or so surviving F-14s remain some of the best fighters in the Middle East. And since the U.S. Navy retired its last Tomcats in 2006, the ayatollahs Tomcats are the only active Tomcats left in the world.
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MUCH much more at link https://news.yahoo.com/irans-f-14-tomcats-were-130000036.html#:~:text=Today%20Iran%27s%2040%20or%20so,was%20a%20product%20of%20failure.
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Deminpenn
(15,278 posts)For years, the Navy used Iran's spare parts that were intercepted at the Philadelphia Navy Yard.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)And 35 years in civilian commercial aviation.
Bottom line: military gear can be made to last a lifetime...all you have to do is decide to do it.
Great article...I was in from 79 to 83 and saw the process...
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)Sean Inannity and the others have been foaming at the mouth over this for the past few days. They have no fucking clue. Or, they do, and as usual, they're lying their asses off, and ginning up fear among the rubes that hang on their every word. I'm going with the latter.
canuckledragger
(1,636 posts)It's a Nicholas Cage movie based on real life arms dealer Vicktor Bout.
There's a scene in it where Russia has pulled out of the Ukraine, leaving behind literal mountains of assault rifles, etc, with some of the reasoning being that it's too much money to ship them back.
The scene always had a ring of truth to it, and here you see it play out in Afghanistan.