Gibraltar's Entire Adult Population Has Been Vaccinated... Now The Delta Variant Cases Are Spreading

[MisterNiceKitty]

https://newsincontext.wordpress.com/2021/07/19/gibraltars-entire-adult-population-has-been-vaccinated-now-the-delta-variant-cases-are-spreading/

"Back in March, the nation of Gibraltar boasted about their successful vaccination program.

Gibraltar became the first nation to vaccinate its entire adult population on Friday, just over two months since administering its first vaccination, thanks to the supplies provided by the U.K.

…
According to Picardo, as of midnight on Tuesday, Gibraltar had administered 48,296 inoculations, including 29,667 first doses and 18,629 second doses.

The announcement from Hancock comes roughly nine weeks after Gibraltar administered its first vaccination. On January 10, the Gibraltar Health Authority announced on its Facebook page that Robert Durrell, a 93-year-old resident was the first to be vaccinated.

OK… great. But now…

Given our successful vaccination programme, the practice until recently has been that a vaccinated close contact of a positive case no longer needed to self-isolate. That person could leave home as long as a mask was worn in all settings, and could even continue to go to work depending on the circumstances of the workplace.

The public is advised that those rules have now changed. The reason for this is because the Delta variant of the virus is more contagious and therefore spreads more quickly. This means that if someone in a household contracts the disease, the likelihood is that other members of that same household will follow.

Household contacts of a positive case are now required to self-isolate whether they have been vaccinated or not. The Contact Tracing Bureau will at first circulate a text message to all known contacts. This will be followed by a telephone call to each of them where the details surrounding the nature of the contact will be discussed, looked at more closely and new instructions issued accordingly.

In addition to this, the Government urges the public to follow the advice that has been given throughout the pandemic. This includes washing hands regularly with soap and water, or where not available, the use of hand sanitisers instead. It remains important to keep your distance from others and to avoid large crowds or gatherings if you are elderly or otherwise vulnerable in any way. It is still a legal requirement to wear a mask in certain settings, like shops and public transport.

It’s as though the people were never vaccinated. And note the time frame – it’s been 4 months since everyone was vaccinated."

related links:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gibraltar-vaccinates-entire-adult-population-in-9-weeks-thanks-to-supplies-from-the-uk/ar-BB1eLqys
https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-releases/covid-rules-are-tightened-as-cases-rise-5342021-7110

[KS Toronado]

1. CDC needs to tell everybody to wear masks in public.

If we want to beat the Delta variant.

[MisterNiceKitty]

4. yes masks

plus plan for a return to reduced indoor occupancy, remote work and remote learning for all non-frontline type workers in the upcoming Fall and Winter.

We are headed in the wrong direction. The time to act is now and not at very the last minute.

[SheltieLover]

11. And the correct type of mask, worn correctly!

Cloth is no longer good enough!

[KS Toronado]

19. Yes, N95 masks should be standard equipment for everybody.

I was surprised how many places in my hometown sold N95 masks after doing an internet search.
Plus there's 100's of sellers online. Those blue one's we see most people wearing are only better
than nothing at all, IMO

[SheltieLover]

28. Agreed!

I bought a small supply of 3Ms last year & doubled that order this year.

Mobody here is smart enough to even cover their noses.

Those blue masks can be made significantly more effective by folding the long way & pinch pleating under where elastic attaches to mask. I saw a video on Dr. Ding's twitter. Then double or triple them!

😷

[uponit7771]

13. Masks will not beat Delta vaccinations will, we should stop enabling some people

[KS Toronado]

22. Masks will slow the spread of Delta

if as a nation we all return to wearing them.

[MisterNiceKitty]

26. Yes thank you & keep wearing those masks & social distancing please

[Calculating]

30. There's no 'beating' covid

It's going to be here forever and eventually be another common cold virus, and most people aren't willing to mask and distance all their lives. Get vaccinated and you'll most likely get a minor case and be left with a strong lasting immunity. We need to just get everyone vaccinated so the hospitals stop getting flooded with unvaxed severe cases and then get back to life as normal.

[KS Toronado]

33. You're correct there's no beating covid

But we have several ways to slow it's spread, national mask mandate could be the #1 deterrent. IMO

[JanMichael]

36. The CDC director? I doubt it. She was too giddy in May with that horrible decision.

She single handed-ly took mask mandates off the table for states right as Delta was starting. It was already raging in the UK.

Nice work if you can get it. Rah rah.

[Hugin]

2. It says all 'adults' had been vaccinated.

So, the reservoir is likely those who are not defined as 'adult'.

I don't know or like wherever this whole idea that vaccinations were like a force field idea came from. They offer protection from the worst consequences of being infected, but, rarely render a recipient inert as a carrier of a disease. Anyone have any examples of where that idea has been observed in practice?

It smells of overselling and snake oil, to be frank. Like 'herd immunity'.

[leftstreet]

3. The CDC relaxing the mask mandate May 13 did it

I don't know or like wherever this whole idea that vaccinations were like a force field idea came from.

When an agency committed to disease control tells vaccinated people it's fine to go without a mask and stop social distancing, you give everyone the impression that vaccines work like a force field.

[MisterNiceKitty]

5. leftstreet called it

This is totally on the CDC director

[JanMichael]

38. Agreed. She needs to go. Peter principle at work. nt

[mopinko]

7. there was an article posted here recently about deer that tested pos.

we also know dogs can get it.
it is possible that there are non-human reservoirs out there now.
we are prolly fucked.

[MisterNiceKitty]

8. Lions at the bronx zoo have tested positive

Mink on a farm in the Netherlands were last year as well
Perhaps they found viral particles in the soil?

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/coronavirus-rips-through-dutch-mink-farms-triggering-culls-prevent-human-infections

[Elessar Zappa]

6. With this delta variant,

a lot of vaccinated people will get sick. That’s why masking and distancing are still necessary. But the vast majority of those on a ventilator or in the grave are unvaccinated.

[BGBD]

9. Garbage

The blog post is a month old. You can look at what happened over that time there.

There was a small wave of covid in the country and it quickly fell again. During that month there have 2 covid deaths compared to 70+ in January during the wave without vaccinations.

Vaccines are meant to reduce transmission, which they clearly did, and prevent severe courses and death. Mission accomplished.

Just a load of anti-vax mud to murk up the water and keep people from getting the shots.

[MisterNiceKitty]

10. The following is up to date information from [i]Reuters[/i]

Anyone can track the incidence since the publication of the blog post and feel free to post any updates to the situation in Gibraltar here or in a separate post:

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/gibraltar/

Other European countries are available at the tracker.

[brush]

20. Thanks. This OP should be deleted then. It's inaccurate...

and stirring up fear.

[totodeinhere]

24. Thank you. n/t

[uponit7771]

25. Whoa, you're right this data suggest Delta spread isn't coming even secondarily from the vaxed

[ruet]

29. Yup, not only that...

the headline is a bit deceptive. Neither the "article" nor announcements say ANYTHING about Delta spreading through Gibraltar. Just that it's more contagious. And the little...

"It’s as though the people were never vaccinated. And note the time frame – it’s been 4 months since everyone was vaccinated."

at the end reeks of anti-vax screed.

[greenjar_01]

32. Agreed

Anti-vax posts non-stop.

[uponit7771]

12. According to WorldOmeter Data looks like vaccines is worked 100% the way it was designed. I ...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/gibraltar/

... am still miffed on why cases are being reported by the M$M

[MisterNiceKitty]

15. The chart is showing total COVID cases increasing

steadily since late January following a kind of plateau in February and March and then a steady upward tick again beginning in mid-July

Total Covid deaths chart: after a steep rise over the winter hit a plateau (coinciding with the mass vaccination reported by MSN?) total deaths have stayed in the 90s since about late February until the present time. The increase has been small (although not insignificant).

Active daily cases, following an all time peak in January declined and flattened out in the Feb - June period before a significant uptick started in early July. Is this after the completion of the mass vaccination program in Gibraltar?

The author seems to be picking up on a real change in Covid incidence in July - That the cases have come down in August is due to the counter measures reported by the government in the article not the vaccination.

Am I misinterpreting this?

[uponit7771]

17. Cases are expected

[muriel_volestrangler]

35. Their peak that was reached at the end of July was well below that in January

That shows the vaccine did prevent a big spread. If you compare it to the UK - reasonably well vaccinated, but not as completely as Gibraltar - that had a July peak at about 80% of January's - Gibraltar's was under 30% of its January peak.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

The blog author got 2 things wrong:

"It’s as though the people were never vaccinated."

No, the vaccine did keep cases lower. As it did elsewhere. And deaths were cut even more - just 2, in about 6 weeks since the wave started. In the first 6 weeks of the Dec/Jan wave, there were about 65.

" And note the time frame – it’s been 4 months since everyone was vaccinated."

No, note the time frame - it was when the Delta variant spread in many countries.

[Doremus]

14. 11k or so people didn't get their 2nd dose...

[MisterNiceKitty]

16. According to Reuters vaccination tracker

116.9% received a first dose

116.2% have been fully vaccinated.

Anyone know what that means exactly?

[Doremus]

31. No idea but original article says

According to Picardo, as of midnight on Tuesday, Gibraltar had administered 48,296 inoculations, including 29,667 first doses and 18,629 second doses.

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. That's from the March 19th report

So, back then, they'd given basically the whole adult population their 1st jab, and over half their 2nd. Gibraltar figures may end up looking slightly strange because there's normally a lot of people who cross the border with Spain for work; how that was handled, and whether Spaniards who work in Gibraltar were vaccinated there, I don't know, but it may well explain the over 100% figures in the post above.

[tanyev]

18. Wow, vaccinated and masked?

I wonder if a lot of people stopped being so diligent about masks once they had everybody vaccinated.

[brush]

21. You should delete this post asap as it''s outdated and inaccurate.

See post 9.

[totodeinhere]

23. I thought that Gibraltar was a British colony. n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

39. It is. A "British Overseas Territory" is the official term now.

Last edited Sat Aug 21, 2021, 07:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Why do you mention it?

(On edit: oh, I now notice the blog called it a 'nation'. Yes, that's rather inaccurate. But it doesn't seem like an accurate blog.)

[Ghost Dog]

40. It's an anomaly!

... Gibraltar was not included in the scope of the EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement agreed between the EU and UK at the end of 2020. The Commission committed to begin the negotiation of a separate agreement on Gibraltar, should Spain request so. That is why the Commission is now recommending that the Council authorises the launch of specific negotiations on Gibraltar...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_21_3747

[mackdaddy]

27. Delta is so contageous that everyone probably be infected, Vaccinated or Not...

BUT the big point is that if you are vaccinated that you are about 20 times less likely to get seriously ill.

Yes, the virus can infect the airways of even a vaccinated person, and that person can pass Delta to others by basically just breathing out. It is just that a vaccinated person may have NO symptoms at all or at most those of a mild cold. (Although some very few get sicker).

So mask can and do slow down the spread of Delta, and hopefully relieve the swamping of hospitals with very bad cases. Which again are about 20 to 1 unvaccinated being hospitalized.

The numbers are from the CDC. That everyone will be infected is just my extrapolation, and I would like to see someone ask that directly of the CDC/NIH.

The main problem I see is that stories like the one in the OP imply that vaccinations are not effective, where they are keeping nearly everyone alive, and giving them the best chance to survive Delta.

[BGBD]

34. Yes

Spot on.

We are living in a world with endemic covid.....everyone is going to catch it...probably more than once.

Vaccinations are the key to preventing full ICUs and massive deaths.

Covid waves in fully vaccinated populations are not a significant public health crisis......as the late July wave in Gibraltar demonstrated.