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Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:04 PM

Black Americans Lead Whites in Getting Vaccinated By Double Digits in New Poll




Black Americans have surpassed White Americans in rate of vaccination by double digits, according to a new NBC News poll.

Black and Latino Americans lagged behind in vaccination rates for months as polls showed hesitancy among various communities, but vaccination rates among Black people have dramatically increased during the Delta surge.

That increase is reflected in the NBC News/Hart Research Associates/Public Opinion Strategies poll released Tuesday. Respondents were asked “Have you already gotten the vaccine?”

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Black Americans were the racial group most likely to say they’ve been vaccinated at 76 percent, with Latinos also above the average at 71 percent, and White people at 66 percent.

The lowest self-reported rate of vaccinations was among respondents who voted for former President Donald Trump in 2020. Only 50 percent of thoe Trump voters say they have been vaccinated.


This is excellent news.

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sheshe2 Aug 2021 OP
Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #1
sheshe2 Aug 2021 #5
StClone Aug 2021 #40
soldierant Aug 2021 #64
LakeArenal Aug 2021 #2
Mister Ed Aug 2021 #6
Cha Aug 2021 #37
TheProle Aug 2021 #3
cyndensco Aug 2021 #60
TheProle Aug 2021 #62
pwb Aug 2021 #4
bluewater Aug 2021 #7
Dream Girl Aug 2021 #8
Skittles Aug 2021 #9
Comfortably_Numb Aug 2021 #12
thenelm1 Aug 2021 #34
Comfortably_Numb Aug 2021 #42
IronLionZion Aug 2021 #22
ace3csusm Aug 2021 #54
brewens Aug 2021 #63
madville Aug 2021 #10
Dream Girl Aug 2021 #13
TimeToGo Aug 2021 #14
madville Aug 2021 #21
Dream Girl Aug 2021 #24
Dream Girl Aug 2021 #25
MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #44
Celerity Aug 2021 #15
IronLionZion Aug 2021 #23
Celerity Aug 2021 #26
ecstatic Aug 2021 #57
MichMan Aug 2021 #67
UncleTomsEvilBrother Aug 2021 #11
OneCrazyDiamond Aug 2021 #16
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 #17
Peppertoo Aug 2021 #41
ck4829 Aug 2021 #46
Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #18
Tree Lady Aug 2021 #19
LanternWaste Aug 2021 #20
MrModerate Aug 2021 #27
The Mouth Aug 2021 #39
PortTack Aug 2021 #28
OnlinePoker Aug 2021 #29
AllyCat Aug 2021 #32
Saffron Walden Aug 2021 #30
AllyCat Aug 2021 #31
sheshe2 Aug 2021 #33
Cha Aug 2021 #35
Gore1FL Aug 2021 #36
Snackshack Aug 2021 #38
luckone Aug 2021 #51
pinkstarburst Aug 2021 #43
MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #45
ck4829 Aug 2021 #47
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #48
questionseverything Aug 2021 #52
praxEs Aug 2021 #68
uponit7771 Aug 2021 #70
praxEs Aug 2021 #71
Treefrog Aug 2021 #55
ecstatic Aug 2021 #58
Zeitghost Aug 2021 #65
Sympthsical Aug 2021 #69
malthaussen Aug 2021 #49
Bonx Aug 2021 #50
obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2021 #59
SergeStorms Aug 2021 #53
The Mouth Aug 2021 #56
TheProle Aug 2021 #61
MichMan Aug 2021 #66

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:07 PM

1. FREAKING AWESOME NEWS!!!



And may I take this opportunity to use the phrase "Wake Up, White People!" in a positive and constructive sort of way?

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:13 PM

5. ...



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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:13 PM

40. Black people are closer to reality in my opinion

White folk gets all comfortable having stupid notions and magical whims. They can indulge those fantastical notions because they are often buffered financially, racially, and socially. They can make poor decisions and survive.

Blacks have to think more carefully to survive and have evolved better rational skills on what is safe, sane, and logical.

Also, they are less likely, in my experience, to sit around watching/listening to toxic "news" sources that thrive on white viewership.

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Response to StClone (Reply #40)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:17 PM

64. That does help to explain

this readily observable phenomenon.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:08 PM

2. POC will save this Democracy yet.

They keep moving us along in the right direction.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:25 PM

6. +1 n/t

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:58 PM

37. Hear Hear!



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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:08 PM

3. Great trend!

Hope it continues despite the stupid examples being set by Cam Newton and Busta Rhymes.

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Response to TheProle (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:26 PM

60. Good thing the black folk I know and I do not consult Newton or Busta for medical advice.

In fact, until reading your post, I had no idea either had taken a stand. Thanks for the info.

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Response to cyndensco (Reply #60)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:32 PM

62. You bet.

Hopefully neither of them will influence anyone of any race against the vaccine.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:13 PM

4. Alrighty then.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:40 PM

7. K&R

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:44 PM

8. When did this happen? I have a feeling that this was driven by community activist it's and churches

 

Excellent, excellent, news! Whatchu talking about Dan Patrick?

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:51 PM

9. Dan Patrick is a racist piece of shit

he wants to demonize AA folk and the other brown folk (immigrants) to explain the dismal response to Covid from what passes for "leadership" in the state of Texas

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Response to Skittles (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:55 PM

12. Dan Patrick is a piece of shit to his soulless core. He can fuck off

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Response to Comfortably_Numb (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:50 PM

34. Isn't Patrick already under indictment for some sort corruption charge(s)?

Way to go Texass - nothin' but the best!!

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Response to thenelm1 (Reply #34)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:18 AM

42. That's our attorney general Paxton. It's hard to keep the scuzz straight down here.

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:22 PM

22. Hot vaxx summer

Dems might be hesitant but not aggressively stupid like Repubs. They were convinced in targeted community outreach from local trusted people like churches and family doctors, just like the Biden admin said they would.

Only Republicans would think door too door outreach meant jackbooted fascists forcing injections upon unwilling people at gunpoint. That was always nonsense.

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:32 PM

54. I think they just waited to see how the first round went

Once they saw millions take it and saw that they came out alright...they where good to go...they weren't going to go first ...

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Response to ace3csusm (Reply #54)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:42 PM

63. I know I kind of liked having to wait until April for my first shot to see how it

went. It's easy for me to avoid contact and I don't mind, so I was almost 100% safe anyway. But by then, I was chomping at the bit wanting to get on the path to be clear to go out and have fun again. That lasted about a week before I went into hiding again. Rotten freakin' FG following bastards!

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:51 PM

10. I wouldn't count a poll as hard data

The most recent real statistics have the US Black population at 40% vaccinated as of last week.

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Response to madville (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:58 PM

13. I think think polling is the only way to this this data. They don't collect ethnic identity when

 

Covid is administered. The only demographic data they collected was age.p (at least in California). Polling data is the only way they could break this out by political party.

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:05 PM

14. I think some states do

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:21 PM

21. Around 40 states report demographic data

Here's a link to a site that compiles it. Scroll down about halfway and you can see US total numbers and it also broken down by state.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

According to this, California reported these numbers as of 18AUG2021, for what percent of the individual demographic groups have received at least one dose. White 62%, Black 48%, Hispanic 47%, Asian 72%.

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Response to madville (Reply #21)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:24 PM

24. I didn't provide ethnic data last March, just age and occupation.

 

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Response to madville (Reply #21)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:29 PM

25. I didn't provide ethnic data last March, just age and occupation.

 

The CDC data is from a tracking study, so it is indeed polling data,

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Response to madville (Reply #21)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 08:14 AM

44. +1

Thanks for this post

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Response to madville (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:09 PM

15. +1 (and that is not fully vaxxed, it is counting at least one)

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

While White adults account for the largest share (57%) of unvaccinated adults, Black and Hispanic people remain less likely than their White counterparts to have received a vaccine, leaving them at increased risk, particularly as the variant spreads.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #15)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:24 PM

23. It is often JnJ for the convenience of one shot nt

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #23)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:40 PM

26. J & J is small portion of the total vaxxed population, zero chance it is 100% of the vaccines taken

by African Americans, thus the fully vaxxed rate for them is below 40%. Do you actually believe that 76% of adult African Americans are vaccinated (even partially)?

This whole thing is based of one self-reporting poll. It is dangerous misinformation.


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Response to madville (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:58 PM

57. Key point: Race/ethnicity was known for (only) 58% of people who had received at least 1 dose

So the CDC's numbers are not capturing the full story.

CDC data also show that recent vaccinations are reaching larger shares of Hispanic, Asian, and Black populations compared to overall vaccinations. Among vaccines administered in the past 14 days, 26% have gone to Hispanic people, 15% to Black people, and 4% to Asian people (Figure 1). These recent patterns suggest a narrowing of racial gaps in vaccinations at the national level, particularly for Hispanic and Black people, who account for a larger share of recent vaccinations compared to their share of the total population (26% vs. 17% and 15% vs. 12%, respectively). While these data provide helpful insights at a national level, to date, CDC is not publicly reporting state-level data on the racial/ethnic composition of people vaccinated.


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Response to ecstatic (Reply #57)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:31 AM

67. Actual data on 58% of the vaccinated population is substantially more accurate than a poll

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:53 PM

11. But...but...

...that dude from Texas said...nevermind.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:09 PM

16. Half of tfg voters reported vaccinated.

Only like 37,108,077 to go. I wonder how many fell to covid?

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:11 PM

17. So Texas' Lt. Governor Patrick is basically full of shit.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #17)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:47 PM

41. Yes

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 08:23 AM

46. Yes, yes he is.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:12 PM

18. Good

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:15 PM

19. Ok can people stop blaming them now?

So sick of all the blame, my white grandkids won't get vaccinated and I am pissed about it. Found a great article today about vaccines helping babies have antibodies if moms are nursing, sent to daughter to give to my granddaughter who has baby, hoping she will listen to her. She said she will send it to her.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:16 PM

20. Kick and rec!

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:43 PM

27. If you want to make this into a contest, I'm all for it...

 

Call it "The Darwin Challenge." Every person who gets vaccinated before contracting covid-19 wins.

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Response to MrModerate (Reply #27)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 10:07 PM

39. Man ain't that the case

Sad to say that I'm hoping more of them (conservatives) die of stupidity than us liberals, but at this point, anyone willfully unvaccinated who dies is a point for Darwin.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 08:47 PM

28. So this whole nonsense of the poor ppl..code for POC will die or get sick and we, the gqp

Will win the political strategy game of a pandemic is good for us and hurts them is bogus.

Yes, it’s that twisted

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Response to OnlinePoker (Reply #29)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:37 PM

32. That is single dose data and from yesterday.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:34 PM

30. The meek will inherit the Earth.

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:35 PM

31. Wypipo and all their trivial perceived grievances

Again, black Americans save America.

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #31)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:40 PM

33. This!

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:56 PM

35. Rt Brave TY! They are also the most Loyal

and Consistent Voting Dems!

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:57 PM

36. I am glad to hear this.

I lost many a Facebook friend because I was considered a "vaccination bully."

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Tue Aug 24, 2021, 09:59 PM

38. True.

To say otherwise really is just an insidious talking point by the GOP.

I really do not know what is next for America. There was always a sense that while one particular thing might be going wrong a gas shortage, a war, some domestic policy our foundation was strong we would together figure a way out. That’s not now. I certainly was not alive in the 1850’s but I image the growing divide going on then is similar to now in how people felt. Is the next election in 22 or maybe 24 since 22 is just a midterm going to be another John Brown moment? I don’t know but I do know there is one part of America that wants another part dead.

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Response to Snackshack (Reply #38)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 02:03 PM

51. + 1. quite clear and also another part that will look away and will only say well,it wasn't me

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 08:07 AM

43. Untrue. Self-reported poll.

Please read the posts with actual data starting at post 10. Black and Hispanic Americans are lagging behind in terms of vaccinated rates (something people on this board might want to remember every time they post hateful, nasty messages about the people who are getting sick under the assumption they're all right wing vaccine deniers.)

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Response to pinkstarburst (Reply #43)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 08:19 AM

45. There have been many news reports on this issue

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/nyregion/covid-vaccine-black-young-new-yorkers.html

Why Only 28 Percent of Young Black New Yorkers Are Vaccinated

https://gothamist.com/news/many-city-employees-still-unvaccinated-despite-nyc-mayors-vax-or-test-covid-order

As of Monday, 58% of city workers—or 211,115 people—have received at least one dose of the vaccines, according to data provided by the mayor’s office.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 08:24 AM

47. K&R

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 09:49 AM

48. Dangerously false post

This is a self-reporting poll (i.e. bad statistics) vs. actual data collected by medical professionals and scientists.

Aside from fuck that Republican in Texas, there is a reason to be concerned about Black Americans flagging in vaccination rates. Not only do we want them to get vaccinated, but it's important to look at the data and start asking why. Is it vaccine hesitancy? Is there a way to alleviate that by working within the community (i.e. churches)? Is it lack of availability? Are these communities not being served at the same rates? I think we know that's always been a thing.

It's important to have accurate data so we know what kinds of policies to push forward.

A self-reporting poll is not that. That's Statistics 101.

This is not useful information.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #48)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:49 PM

52. 130 black participants out of 1000 people polled

So 77 percent self reporting is not necessarily a legit look

In the heart of Chicago over 70 percent are vaccinated while in southern texas it is like 23 percent….huge difference

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #52)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:37 AM

68. Unfortunately the number of Black respondents (130) among the 1000

persons sampled overall is just plain too small to provide any trustworthy basis for estimating the population parameter of the vaccination rate for all Black people in the US. It's not really the self-report that is problematic. Note that almost all polls of human beings' verbal responses are self-report and there is little sound basis for estimating that Black respondents would dissemble at a rate that might differ from white folks' level of misrepresentation.

Have you ever encountered a poll that purported to characterize an entire population or subpopulation of the US on the basis of N = 70?

You have not.

Nor have I.

The most primitive statistical notions involving the use of a sample statistic to estimate a population parameter are presented in the first few weeks of a semester long, elementary statistics course. Such courses occur frequently now in high school curricula.

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Response to praxEs (Reply #68)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 08:02 AM

70. Blacks are 13% of us population, looks representative

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Response to praxEs (Reply #68)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 10:38 AM

71. I am only replying to my own post because

someone below me is fostering -- no doubt unintentionally -- a mistaken meaning of 'representativeness.'

That a sample of 70 people are black is about the most primitive meaning imaginable of representativeness of the population of all Black people in the US. Representativeness in the sense of the extent to which a sample statistic reflects the population parameter from which is drawn requires that the sample was randomly drawn and the size of the sample is much larger.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #48)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:35 PM

55. Thank you.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #48)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:07 PM

58. lol. Why is this information so hard to accept?

Seriously? I know the media keeps pushing a certain narrative down everyone's throats, but that doesn't mean it's true. Think about it. The vast majority of trumpers are white and/or support the republican party, which is the anti-vax party. Why is it so hard to believe that black Americans, who overwhelmingly support pro-vaccine democrats, are getting vaccinated at a higher rate?

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #58)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 06:26 PM

65. Because...

It is a single data point that has been contradicted by information from more robust studies.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #58)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:53 AM

69. Accurate data is required to make good policy

We've already gotten data from the states that conflicts with a statistically poor self-reporting poll.

Once people think, "Well, that's that problem solved," complacency sets in. A problem is no longer a problem. People stop worrying.

I am worried about people not being vaccinated. And if they're not, I want to know why and if there's a way we can change it.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

Not only do we know Black communities are under-served in health care and access in general, we know that Covid has been affecting them disproportionately.

Black people have received smaller shares of vaccinations compared to their shares of cases and the total population in about half of states reporting data. In the remaining reporting states, the share of vaccinations they have received is similar to their shares of cases and the total population. However, in most reporting states, the share of vaccinations received by Black people is smaller than their share of deaths. For example, in the District of Columbia, Black people have received 43% of vaccinations, while they make up 56% of cases, 71% of deaths, and 46% of the total population.


Some people want Happy Talk and Twitter clicks. I want data. Then I want policy that follows the data and fixes any problems.

This poll is irresponsible. It engenders complacency.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 12:12 PM

50. A poll? This isn't accurate.

Sorry. Feel-good doesn't help.

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Response to Bonx (Reply #50)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:21 PM

59. It does feel good though.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:52 PM

53. Wonderful!

Hopefully this will stem the tide of COVID in the communities of POC.

There will always be 30% + of the white race who'll never get vaccinated. That's because they're the lunatic fringe of right-wing jackasses. Forget them. Avoid them like the plague, because they are like the plague.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #53)

Wed Aug 25, 2021, 04:43 PM

56. They *ARE* the plague

And good riddance to them, too.

It started as a virus, it is now an IQ test.

Darwin will not be denied

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Response to TheProle (Reply #61)

Thu Aug 26, 2021, 07:30 AM

66. Shows Black vaccination rates clearly less than Whites in nearly every state

Given that, it makes sense that recent rates would be higher for Blacks since they compose a higher % of the unvaccinated population than their overall % of the population.

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