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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:22 AM

Star Member babylonsister (170,117 posts)

Florida Is Now Refusing to Pay School Board Members Who Order Mask Mandates

I sincerely hope desantis is digging his own grave.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-is-now-refusing-to-pay-school-board-members-who-order-mask-mandates

Florida Is Now Refusing to Pay School Board Members Who Order Mask Mandates
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Jamie Ross
News Correspondent
Published Aug. 31, 2021 5:06AM ET
Reuters/Marco Bello


Florida is refusing to pay monthly salaries to school board members in counties that defied Gov. Ron DeSantis to introduce mask mandates on their campuses. The state’s Department of Education confirmed the move Monday, saying it had “withheld the monthly school board member salaries in Alachua and Broward County” because of the mask mandates, which it said “violate parental rights by not allowing a parent or legal guardian to opt-out their child.” The statement added that the salaries will not be paid until the districts abandon their mandates. The move came despite a court ruling last week that school districts can enforce temporary mask mandates to help stop the spread of COVID-19. Broward County Public Schools Interim Superintendent Vickie Cartwright said late Monday that the county will continue its mask requirements, saying: “The health and safety of our students, teachers, and staff continue to be our main priorities.”

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Reply Florida Is Now Refusing to Pay School Board Members Who Order Mask Mandates (Original post)
 babylonsister Aug 2021 OP
LineReply Re-publican projection. He must fear having his salary
 multigraincracker Aug 2021 #1
LineReply "Parental rights"? Since when can parents endanger thrir kids?
 TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #2
LineLineReply And other kids! Jeesh! Glad mine is grown now.
 Ziggysmom Aug 2021 #6
LineLineReply I guess the use of car seats and seat belts for children should be optional as well
 PA Democrat Aug 2021 #16
LineLineLineReply I was thinking of carseats, and mittens in winter.
 TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #19
LineReply This makes me seriously sick to watch this,
 dewsgirl Aug 2021 #3
LineReply Now the governor of FL . . ...
 Lovie777 Aug 2021 #4
LineLineReply He needs to be 'slapped down' hard
 OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #11
LineReply DeSantis is an idiot
 Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #5
LineLineReply So what is the next legal step when a governor
 wnylib Aug 2021 #12
LineLineLineReply I wonder what the judge will do? They don't like it when people ignore them.
 Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #13
LineLineLineLineReply Time to set up fund raisers for those school districts?
 wnylib Aug 2021 #27
LineLineLineLineLineReply I think Biden said he would use federal funds to pay the school employees.
 Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #28
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply Yes, he did, but I think those funds
 wnylib Aug 2021 #30
LineLineLineLineLineLineLineReply I thought it was coming from already existing Covid funds.
 Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #31
LineLineLineReply No idea....
 Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #26
LineReply Given our country's poor history of holding connected, white men accountable
 dlk Aug 2021 #7
LineLineReply +1 n/t
 area51 Aug 2021 #24
LineLineReply They know their crimes will go unpunished.
 Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #32
LineLineLineNew Reply To the detriment of us all
 dlk Aug 2021 #38
LineLineLineLineNew Reply We are becoming more and more like the countries we thought we had to change.
 Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #41
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Unfortunately, I think you're right
 dlk Aug 2021 #42
LineReply He literally has no way to do this
 obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #8
LineReply I thought they walked this back when they initially threatened to do it because
 Native Aug 2021 #9
LineLineReply Nothing, it is just theater
 obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #18
LineReply Ignoring a court order.
 Maine Abu El Banat Aug 2021 #10
LineReply Nationalize the FL Administration.
 NCjack Aug 2021 #14
LineReply Contempt
 liberalgunwilltravel Aug 2021 #15
LineReply It's more than just Florida,
 gab13by13 Aug 2021 #17
LineLineNew Reply That's Why It Needs An EO
 ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #34
LineReply My school district does not pay school board members. n/t
 ChazII Aug 2021 #20
LineLineReply I was surprised to hear they were salaried, is that common? n/t
 cadoman Aug 2021 #23
LineLineLineNew Reply From what I have researched
 ChazII Aug 2021 #35
LineLineLineLineNew Reply thanks for sharing that, it looks like a few other states do it: NY, NV, IL
 cadoman Aug 2021 #39
LineReply I thought the courts ruled on this a couple of days ago
 MissMillie Aug 2021 #21
LineLineReply They did. This is open defiance. I'm very curious about their internal polling on this
 Arazi Aug 2021 #25
LineReply How much is death sentence making off post hospitalization cures?!?
 uponit7771 Aug 2021 #22
LineReply Funny but where I live in Nevada school board members are unpaid volunteers.
 totodeinhere Aug 2021 #29
LineNew Reply Video
 Nevilledog Aug 2021 #33
LineNew Reply Anyone from Florida...? Help..
 Grins Aug 2021 #36
LineLineNew Reply He has zero way to do this
 obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #40
LineNew Reply Those kids have already been born therefore the GOP doesn't care if they die.
 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2021 #37

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:25 AM

Star Member multigraincracker (29,328 posts)

1. Re-publican projection. He must fear having his salary

taken away. Could they tie his pay to the number of covid cases?

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:31 AM

Star Member TreasonousBastard (41,879 posts)

2. "Parental rights"? Since when can parents endanger thrir kids?

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:01 AM

Star Member Ziggysmom (2,512 posts)

6. And other kids! Jeesh! Glad mine is grown now.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:06 AM

Star Member PA Democrat (13,211 posts)

16. I guess the use of car seats and seat belts for children should be optional as well

based upon "parental rights" instead of being mandated by law.

How sick that people risk the health of children and people in their communities to advance their political goals.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:29 AM

Star Member TreasonousBastard (41,879 posts)

19. I was thinking of carseats, and mittens in winter.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:50 AM

dewsgirl (14,943 posts)

3. This makes me seriously sick to watch this,

I have lived in Florida for 43 years, my whole life. I thank God my granddaughter is good about wearing hers. I moved last year, it's heartbreaking to watch this evil man try to kill everyone and everything I've ever loved, where all my memories live.💔

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 05:48 AM

Star Member Lovie777 (7,028 posts)

4. Now the governor of FL . . ...

is superseding the judge's ruling? He has now established himself above any rules he does not favor. This is dangerous.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:41 AM

OldBaldy1701E (3,194 posts)

11. He needs to be 'slapped down' hard

Major federal lawsuit and major federal charges for trying to disrupt governmental function. Plus, make sure that all those parents who will shortly be without a functioning school system know who is responsible. (Hint for all those parents out there who can't quite understand what is going on... it is DeSantis. He is risking your children's lives and future for political points from people who do not care about you or your children. REMEMBER THIS!)

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 05:52 AM

Star Member Dorian Gray (12,952 posts)

5. DeSantis is an idiot

If he had any intelligence, He would have taken the court ruling and told people: "My hands are tied. I tried." He could still campaign as a "freedom fighter" or whatever and let the school districts mandate masks and make education in Florida a safer place for kids and adults.

Instead, he's tripling down, and he's going to look terrible for it.

More kids will get sick, and he'll be the reason why.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:43 AM

Star Member wnylib (16,477 posts)

12. So what is the next legal step when a governor

defies a court decision?

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:54 AM

Star Member Irish_Dem (33,771 posts)

13. I wonder what the judge will do? They don't like it when people ignore them.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 10:53 AM

Star Member wnylib (16,477 posts)

27. Time to set up fund raisers for those school districts?

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:08 AM

Star Member Irish_Dem (33,771 posts)

28. I think Biden said he would use federal funds to pay the school employees.

In the event the state would not pay them.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:13 AM

Star Member wnylib (16,477 posts)

30. Yes, he did, but I think those funds

were supposed to come from a bill that has yet to be passed.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:17 AM

Star Member Irish_Dem (33,771 posts)

31. I thought it was coming from already existing Covid funds.

But I could be wrong about that.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 10:38 AM

Star Member Dorian Gray (12,952 posts)

26. No idea....

but I'm sure the school boards will take it and hopefully he'll lose.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:19 AM

Star Member dlk (10,067 posts)

7. Given our country's poor history of holding connected, white men accountable

The lawlessness will only increase. Desantis has no fear of facing any consequences for his destructive actions. He will only get worse.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:51 AM

Star Member area51 (10,775 posts)

24. +1 n/t

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:18 AM

Star Member Irish_Dem (33,771 posts)

32. They know their crimes will go unpunished.

The American people just don't want to go after rich, white, powerful males.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:15 PM

Star Member dlk (10,067 posts)

38. To the detriment of us all

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:59 PM

Star Member Irish_Dem (33,771 posts)

41. We are becoming more and more like the countries we thought we had to change.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:21 PM

Star Member dlk (10,067 posts)

42. Unfortunately, I think you're right

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:28 AM

Star Member obamanut2012 (23,703 posts)

8. He literally has no way to do this

Either legally or practically.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:31 AM

Star Member Native (5,472 posts)

9. I thought they walked this back when they initially threatened to do it because

school board salaries are paid by the counties and not the state, and they then said something about how the county should withhold their salaries. What am I missing?

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:10 AM

Star Member obamanut2012 (23,703 posts)

18. Nothing, it is just theater

He can do nothing.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:38 AM

Maine Abu El Banat (3,397 posts)

10. Ignoring a court order.

These assholes have lost their fucking mind. Infanticide is what it is.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:55 AM

Star Member NCjack (10,065 posts)

14. Nationalize the FL Administration.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:59 AM

liberalgunwilltravel (222 posts)

15. Contempt

Hold everyone involved in the decision to hold back pay in contempt. Lock their aspics up indefinitely. The rule of law either means something or it means nothing. TFG guy has yet to be held to account, thus his mini-me’s are just following his playbook. Make them (and him) pay dearly.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:06 AM

Star Member gab13by13 (14,679 posts)

17. It's more than just Florida,

Magats are going to school board meetings across the country and threatening school board members with harm if they vote to mandate masks, and they get away with it. I'm assuming that law enforcement is probably Magat also.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 12:50 PM

Star Member ProfessorGAC (56,785 posts)

34. That's Why It Needs An EO

Here in Illinois, Pritzker has signed 2 EOs. Now, nothing in the realm is up to the school board.
State mandate, and if nutty parents complain, the district can just say "We have to follow the law. It's not up to us."
And, no change for Pritzker because that type didn't vote for him anyway, and they wouldn't in the future.
They hate him now. They hated him anyway.
So, he is unaffected and the school board is off the hook.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:40 AM

ChazII (5,909 posts)

20. My school district does not pay school board members. n/t

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:46 AM

cadoman (792 posts)

23. I was surprised to hear they were salaried, is that common? n/t

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 02:24 PM

ChazII (5,909 posts)

35. From what I have researched

Florida is one of a few states that pay the school board members.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 06:48 PM

cadoman (792 posts)

39. thanks for sharing that, it looks like a few other states do it: NY, NV, IL

https://ballotpedia.org/School_board_salaries_in_America%27s_largest_school_districts

"According to the National School Boards Association, school board members are typically volunteers who receive no annual compensation.

75 percent of small-district school board members receive no salary
Less than 40 percent of large-district school board members work more than 40 hours per month on board-related duties in return for a salary[1]"

I'm curious how much of a "stick" this is to those boards. Given that a lot of people do it for free it seems like we'd be able to find some pro-science people who could step in if money is a factor.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:38 AM

MissMillie (36,895 posts)

21. I thought the courts ruled on this a couple of days ago

That the ban on mask mandates could not be upheld

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 09:16 AM

Arazi (5,563 posts)

25. They did. This is open defiance. I'm very curious about their internal polling on this

#DeathSantis is very very confident with this maneuver and the outright barbarity of his policies.

He knows this is killing people.

He's not stupid, just maniacally ambitious. Where are the polling numbers coming from that's telling him (and Abbot, Noem etc) that this is a winning strategy?

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:41 AM

Star Member uponit7771 (88,339 posts)

22. How much is death sentence making off post hospitalization cures?!?

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:11 AM

Star Member totodeinhere (12,718 posts)

29. Funny but where I live in Nevada school board members are unpaid volunteers.

So it would not be possible to refuse to pay them since they don't get paid in the first place.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 11:43 AM

Star Member Nevilledog (44,612 posts)

33. Video



Tweet text:
The Recount
@therecount
The Florida Department of Education has started withholding salaries of school board members in violation of Gov. Ron DeSantis’ (R-FL) ban on mask mandates, despite a judge ruling the ban unconstitutional.


5:40 AM · Aug 31, 2021

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 04:16 PM

Star Member Grins (5,828 posts)

36. Anyone from Florida...? Help..

Not from Florida but it is my experience school boards do the hiring and firing of all teachers, administration, superintendents, principals, etc. And PAYS them. My experience is the state does not pay anyone because the locally elected school board pays them with taxes locally collected. (Sweetened with some state $$$ - sure.)

What does Florida do? What am I missing?

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 07:14 PM

Star Member obamanut2012 (23,703 posts)

40. He has zero way to do this

It is illegal and impossible. The officials are paid by the county, not the state.

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 05:59 PM

Star Member Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (94,961 posts)

37. Those kids have already been born therefore the GOP doesn't care if they die.

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