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sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 02:55 PM Sep 2021

Marine Corporal Discharged over Refusal to Wear a Mask

Marine Corporal Discharged over Refusal to Wear a Mask

Marine Cpl. Whitney McHaffie refused to comply with a mask mandate and doesn't want to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

A month after the Defense Department's mask mandate for unvaccinated troops went into effect, she was booted from the military, possibly making her the first service member to be forced out of the service for violating COVID-related rules.

McHaffie, who served at Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point, North Carolina, went viral on social media after appearing in a video with Josh Mandel, a former Ohio state treasurer who is currently in his second run for the Senate. The video, in which she tells her story of being swiftly booted from the Corps for disobeying the mask mandate, had more than 400,000 views as of Tuesday morning.

Vaccines are now mandatory for troops, but were not at the time of McHaffie's discharge. Despite that, the amateur MMA fighter and fifth-grade teacher in Ohio sought a religious exemption for the COVID-19 vaccine that had not been resolved by the time of her discharge.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/08/31/marine-corporal-discharged-over-refusal-wear-mask.html
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Marine Corporal Discharged over Refusal to Wear a Mask (Original Post) sarisataka Sep 2021 OP
I didn't know death cults rated "religious exemptions" relayerbob Sep 2021 #1
These guys will eat bark off trees or kiss Drill Sgt's rear if told too, yet they won't wear a mask? Hoyt Sep 2021 #2
Done and gone... Ohio Joe Sep 2021 #3
Refuse an order, and you clearly are not Marine material. James48 Sep 2021 #4
Big Deal ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #5
Takes a while to make Corporal in the Marines... Grins Sep 2021 #6
What's your definition of awhile? USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #8
And she will still get her benefits with a General under honorable Beachnutt Sep 2021 #11
She misses out on a big one though USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #15
The Marine Corps is a little different than other services sarisataka Sep 2021 #13
Wow USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #14
Oorah /nt tonedevil Sep 2021 #7
And now that she's been dismissed gratuitous Sep 2021 #9
Maybe she wanted out, and this was the fastest way to do it. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #10
Was hoping for your thoughts in the OP greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #12
I believe the actions of the Marine Corps sarisataka Sep 2021 #16
Missed the subthread greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #17
Bravo Zulu Marines, K & R denbot Sep 2021 #18
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. These guys will eat bark off trees or kiss Drill Sgt's rear if told too, yet they won't wear a mask?
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:01 PM
Sep 2021

James48

(4,427 posts)
4. Refuse an order, and you clearly are not Marine material.
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:02 PM
Sep 2021

I’m sorry, but anybody who refuses an order is not Marines material. Got a religious objection? Comply until the objection is resolved. In some cases, religious objections could be deemed inconsistent with military service. It took years for religious accommodation for Siek headwear, for example. In the meantime, either obey the order, or ask for discharge.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
5. Big Deal
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:03 PM
Sep 2021

She won't be missed.
She's already proving she won't follow orders or use common sense.
The marines don't need her.

Grins

(7,195 posts)
6. Takes a while to make Corporal in the Marines...
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:04 PM
Sep 2021

…and she tossed all that and got - a general discharge? Not the same as an honorable discharge, and it will follow you forever.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
8. What's your definition of awhile?
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:06 PM
Sep 2021

Because people make that rank in about 3 years. It’s actually a low rank and handed to people for just being able to breathe.

Beachnutt

(7,285 posts)
11. And she will still get her benefits with a General under honorable
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:46 PM
Sep 2021

should have been a bad conduct discharge for not following orders

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
15. She misses out on a big one though
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:56 PM
Sep 2021

Post 9-11 GI Bill, but the other Big ones she gets to keep is free health care and VA disability payments.

sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
13. The Marine Corps is a little different than other services
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:50 PM
Sep 2021

E-4 is not an automatic promotion. It requires merit (good performance reviews) and a leadership class must be taken.

While not a difficult rank to reach many choose to not make the effort and are out as 4-6 year Lance Corporals.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
14. Wow
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:53 PM
Sep 2021

I didn’t not know that…figured it was an E-4 so the same…I know it’s considered a NCO rank unlike the Air Force so I should have known it was more difficult.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. And now that she's been dismissed
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 03:09 PM
Sep 2021

She will find out that Josh Mandel has no further use for her. Try not to be surprised, Ms. McHaffie.

sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
16. I believe the actions of the Marine Corps
Wed Sep 1, 2021, 04:05 PM
Sep 2021

Are entirely appropriate.

As indicated in a subthread above, a Marine Corporal is an NCO, a leader. It is not a good example for a leader to refuse to follow orders.

The Marine Corps also has a process called Request Mast where a grievance can be taken up the chain of command. It cannot be refusef to a Marine and potentially can end up on the desk of the Commandant of the Marine Corps. None of the articles I have read indicated the Corporal attempted to Request Mast.

The discharge is fair, assuming performance was otherwise acceptable. The lower discharges require a punitive action, i.e. Court Martial. A General discharge (under honorable conditions) does allow a few benefits but it does disqualify from the GI Bill.

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