Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick Illegally Redefines What A Baby Is

[babylonsister]

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/09/02/dan-patrick-illegally-defines-babies.html

Posted on Thu, Sep 2nd, 2021 by Jason Easley
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick Illegally Redefines What A Baby Is
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick redefined what a baby is so that illegal bounty hunters can go after abortion providers.

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Patrick said on Fox News, “Few can argue, even on the left, that that’s not a baby. A little Texan alive in the womb when that heartbeat is detected, and so Senate Bill 8 has stopped the abortionists in their tracks because doctors are afraid of being sued because any citizen can bring a lawsuit against that doctor who performs an abortion. I’m proud that we passed it.”

Texas Isn’t Defining Personhood. They Are Defining Babies.

It is a chilling thought. Science has been going in circles with the personhood debate forever, but Texas has skipped the personhood debate and automatically deemed a heartbeat a baby, which is so bizarrely unscientific that it is frightening.

This is like Texas deciding that the moon is no longer a moon but a spaceship orbiting the earth. Texas Republican men have arbitrarily decided what a baby is.

The Texas law is wildly unconstitutional and already being copied by red states across the country.

The good news is that the federal legislature can easily short circuit this law by passing a simple bill granting immunity to anyone who provides an abortion or assists a woman in obtaining an abortion anywhere in the country.

In the meantime, Texas has delivered what Republicans have always dreamed of. A real-world Gilead where the state has defined what a baby is and now controls the bodies of women.

[Walleye]

1. A little Texan already? I just can't

When they say these things I’m sure they’re only thinking of white babies

[NewJeffCT]

2. he's also the guy

that said last year that seniors should be willing to die to keep the economy open

[Walleye]

3. Oh yeah that guy. Not the humanitarian of the year

[Tanuki]

4. Someone should ask him if this means that a heartbeat has birthright citizenship.

As long as you were conceived in Texas, you can stay there forever, regardless of your parents' citizenship status, because you're already a little Texan!

[babylonsister]

5. Ha! Not if you're Hispanic I bet. nt

[femmedem]

10. I do believe that this is the best way to challenge the law.

That and making other benefits available based on fetal heartbeats.

[Tanuki]

12. I guess child support payments would start at 6 weeks gestation instead of at birth.

[forthemiddle]

15. In some aspects, it already does

In most states, if a mother gets Medical Assistance through the pregnancy, the State asks for the name of the father, and they will go after him for reimbursement.
I am not endorsing the law, in any way, just this out.

[Walleye]

18. Somebody should tell them that birthright citizenship requires a birth.

[gab13by13]

6. That will open a can of worms,

Just give "the Baby" a name after 6 weeks and claim him/her on your taxes.

Women 6 weeks pregnant can drive in the HOV lane.

[Walleye]

19. I laughed at the HOV lane thing

[Ilsa]

20. That is priceless! LOL! nt

[Mary in S. Carolina]

7. How about HIPPA for the fetus?

If the pregnant mother is incarcerated - won't it be illegal to incarcerate the fetus? How about a child tax credit - does the fetus get a child tax credit? How about food stamps - is the fetus eligible for food stamps? How about social security payments if father passes while mother is pregnant - does the fetus have the right to social security payments? Can the fetus get disability benefits or disability insurance? The list is endless.

[Victor_c3]

11. I'm sure someone will bring these circumstances up

I’d also wonder about life insurance. When a woman gets pregnant, can she immediately open a policy on her fetus and then collect in the event of a miscarriage?

[Solly Mack]

8. Fuck him and everyone who thinks as he does.

[Jilly_in_VA]

9. Someone needs to show him

how you can actually get a collection of cardiac cells to beat in a Petri dish and ask him if THAT is a baby.

[raging moderate]

13. If there is no heart, then actually there is no heartbeat.

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Isn't it true that the actual heart has not yet developed at this stage? So why is that sound called a heartbeat? Before modern microscopes, they thought the baby was complete but just too tiny to be seen at this stage, but now we pretty well know, don't we? Also, why do we let him get away with calling it a fetus when, at six weeks, it is still an embryo? I have heard that many of these right-wingers are ignorant about these matters. Obviously, this governor is very ignorant. Also, isn't it true that we don't know (or almost never) exactly what date conception occurred? How is that "six weeks" calculated, or is that just six weeks after the date of the last menses?

[Jilly_in_VA]

29. That is absolutely true.

It's still just a collection of cells with an electrical stimulus. It is an embryo, and not even a fetus. It is non-viable under any circumstances whatsoever, as there are no lungs.

[smirkymonkey]

14. These sanctimonious, fake-Christian, misogynistic MEN make me absolutely sick!

I don't think they are even entitled to an opinion in the first place, and secondly if a FETUS cannot exist independently of the woman hosting it, it should not have rights independently of the woman hosting it. Period.

Fuck them all!

[keithbvadu2]

16. Legal status?

[2naSalit]

17. Another reason why the insist that...

Science is a bad thing. If you understand information gain through science, these bullshitters would make no sense. So if you make sure your constituents are ignorant, you can hold off on bullshit stories for a long time, and eventually make sure those who aren't ignorant can't have representation.

[Paladin]

21. No one should ever mistake Dan Patrick for a human being.

He's a brain-dead, destructive piece of shit. Always has been.

[area51]

22. Repub FL House speaker

called pregnant women "host bodies" five times in an interview.

[if..fish..had..wings]

23. IT'S NOT A HEARTBEAT

At six weeks of pregnancy, an ultrasound can detect "a little flutter", it cannot be heard with a stethoscope. This flutter happens because the group of cells that will become the future "pacemaker" of the heart gain the capacity to fire electrical signals.

[raging moderate]

28. So, not really a heartbeat, not really a fetus.

Why do we let them get away with lying and then basing laws on these lies, and then actually enforcing these laws based on lies? It seems to me that competent lawyers on our side should be able to use these lies to invalidate these laws and prevent their enforcement.

[Ms. Toad]

24. That definition is in the statue.

So it's not the Lt. Gov defining baby.

[SoonerPride]

25. Then state funds go for funding that "baby" immediately.

Apply for benefits at 6 weeks.

[Paladin]

26. Dan Patrick favors the establishment of a theocracy.

I heard him actually say that, live on air, back when he was a Limbaugh wannabe on Houston AM hate radio.

However loathsome and dangerous Greg Abbott is, Dan Patrick is infinitely worse. And don't let all that "little Texan" folksy bullshit fool you---Patrick is from Maryland. I wish he would go back there, just as soon as possible.

[area51]

27. +1

And I noticed how he refused to sacrifice himself to the virus.

[ananda]

30. Patrick is such a lizard-brain.

Ick

[joetheman]

31. A lot of men will be angry when they have to pay child support for a heartbeat. nt

[raging moderate]

32. Especially when they figure out it isn't a real heartbeat.

Will they finally face reality to protect their own selfish interests?