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Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:04 PM

Any Camp Pfizer people pulling up stakes and hiking over to Camp Moderna?

The Moderna shot has proven to have slightly better durability than Pfizer. Both boosters are going to be the same dosages of the same formulations as I understand it. This leads to the natural question: would the Moderna booster be a universally better option at this point? Only Pfizer is FDA approved at this time, but that reality will be short-lived.

The official answer appears to be to stick with your one type. However, there is reason to be skeptical of that. Vaccines don't linger in your system for long, after six months the only lasting effect is the imprint on your immune system. That is very different from how a drug regimen works.

Consider the question of whether drugs can be combined with alcohol use or not. The official answer for the 10s of thousands of prescription drugs is NO. Do all these thousands of drugs really have harmful interactions with alcohol? Probably not, but the issue is that pharmaceutical companies aren't going to spend all that money on research and expanded clinical trials to make sure. It just isn't cost effective. So putting that verbiage in there is an easy way to reduce those costs as well as limit any resulting liability.

Is the same thing going on here?
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Reply Any Camp Pfizer people pulling up stakes and hiking over to Camp Moderna? (Original post)
Shermann Sep 3 OP
lagomorph777 Sep 3 #1
Siwsan Sep 3 #2
Haggard Celine Sep 3 #3
brush Sep 3 #7
Haggard Celine Sep 3 #14
brush Sep 3 #16
brooklynite Sep 3 #4
ProfessorGAC Sep 3 #9
brooklynite Sep 3 #10
ProfessorGAC Sep 3 #12
brooklynite Sep 3 #17
gldstwmn Sep 3 #5
ProfessorGAC Sep 3 #11
voteearlyvoteoften Sep 3 #6
Shermann Sep 4 #20
Corgigal Sep 3 #8
Ms. Toad Sep 3 #18
Baitball Blogger Sep 3 #13
TreasonousBastard Sep 3 #15
FlyingPiggy Sep 3 #19

Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:07 PM

1. I assume they'll be enforcing the official recommendation.

So I'm not so sure my preference matters.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:07 PM

2. I actually discussed this with my APN, last week

The medical clinic I use gave the Moderna vaccine. I was vaccinated with Pfizer at another location (got an earlier appointment at Meijer). She recommended I stick with Pfizer.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:14 PM

3. I've already gotten the Moderna booster.

My upper arm was very sore around the injection site, and it felt like I had a knot in my back muscles on the same side. No nausea or cold symptoms or anything like that, though. They told me I had to wait a couple of weeks before I get my flu shot, so I'll be going back to do that soon.

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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:47 PM

7. Did you have to make an appointment or just walk into...

Walgreens or other pharmacy store?

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Response to brush (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 06:50 PM

14. I made an appointment first.

I made an appointment to get the booster at CVS, then I got a text from them saying that I could have my flu shot and my pneumonia and shingles shots done there, too. So I made an appointment for the other shots as well.

Then when I went to get the flu shot I told the nurse that I was scheduled to have the booster shot a few days later. She said that she could give me one shot or the other right then, but I would have to wait two weeks before I got the other. I told her that I thought the booster was more important, so let's do it now.

She asked for my vaccine card and I didn't have it with me, so I had to go all the way home and back so I could get the shot. Don't forget to take it with you!

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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #14)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:39 PM

16. Thank you.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:16 PM

4. "However, there is reason to be skeptical of that"

Is that reason based on medical science?

If so, please provide a citation. If not, why is this any better reasoning than HCQ or de-worming paste?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:51 PM

9. I Don't Think You Read It Right

It's true of all vaccines that the vax itself doesn't linger long term, nor does it have to.
The OP pointed this out as a way to differentiate from a drug therapy. That differentiation exists, and it has been common knowledge for decades that therapeutic drugs & vaccines don't work the same way, physiologically.
No citation is needed to support the obviously true.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #9)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:52 PM

10. I citation is needed that its acceptable to switch between different vaccines...

Öwhen CDC has said they donít recommend it.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 05:28 PM

12. That's Not What The OP Said

It's not even close.
It was clearly making a direct comparison between drug & vaccine mechanisms.
Not sure how you inferred anything other.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 08:41 PM

17. Paragraph 2 of the OP...

ď The official answer appears to be to stick with your one type. However, there is reason to be skeptical of that.Ē

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:18 PM

5. I have always gotten really sick with

vaccinations. I'm not going to risk it with Moderna. I've no complaints with Pfizer

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:52 PM

11. Moderna Did Show...

...both a higher % of side effects, & somewhat more intense.
For you, staying with Pfizer seems wise.
For me, I was Moderna anyway, so I'll stick with that for the booster.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:46 PM

6. Just got my booster today

I did try to switch to Moderna but the unvaccinated!! pharmacist at Walgreens wasnít going for it. He told me ď If I decide to get vaccinated I will get PfizerĒ Cue me going What?? You arenít vaccinated? Well I hardly ever lose it in public but I cussed him out. ( He said something lame about FDA approval) The Covid is raging in Florida and I didnít want to wait so went to another Walgreens today and got the Pfizer booster. I would have had to lie to get Moderna which would be easy enough just say it was my first and not show my card. Itís been almost 8 months since first 2 Pfizerís and as it was I had to claim medical necessity. ( Every slot was open on their online appt site so I know I didnít take it from someone else) Btw they updated their site last night so the option for booster is there( wasnít yesterday) They will take walk ins too. Sept 20 is the date it opens for everyone for boosters but I know lots of people who have them already. Donít want to get caught in the rush. So thatís my booster story. Be well and have a great holiday weekend DU friends 🇺🇸👍🏻🌎

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Response to voteearlyvoteoften (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 4, 2021, 08:31 AM

20. Good info, thanks! I got my first shots at Walgreens as well. nt

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 04:48 PM

8. They are both the same,

probably donít need a booster anyway. Titter always wanes after every vaccine, but the HPV shot. They donít know why it doesnít with the HPV yet.

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Response to Corgigal (Reply #8)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:15 PM

18. They actually aren't the same.

They use the same mechanism, but the delivery vehicle is different and the Moderna dose is 3x the quantity of mRNA than the Pfizer.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 05:32 PM

13. I'm giving Pfizer the one booster, and then I might jump ship.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 07:12 PM

15. I got Pfizer from the VA, and they say they'll let me know about boosters.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Fri Sep 3, 2021, 11:20 PM

19. You should not be switching vaccines.

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