When you wish the other side death

[Just_Vote_Dem]

You may become like them.
We're better than that.

[Aristus]

1. I don't think we're wishing them death as much as we're not standing in the way

while they wish it on themselves...

[Kaleva]

2. I don't wish anyone death but I won't be sad if certain folks die.

[FoxNewsSucks]

3. I understand that,

and I do agree.

But I'm sick of them. Sick of them getting their way. Sick of the damage they do. I know it's not good to wish them gone, but I just can't help it anymore.

[Paladin]

4. "We are better than that" is going to be our epitaph.

Fits really nice on a tombstone...

[The Magistrate]

28. Hear Hear, Sir

[Paladin]

49. Glad you are pleased. (nt)

[onecaliberal]

5. How could we possibly stop them. They're the ones with a death wish.

[pidge]

8. But they seem to be all over the place,not dead.

[onecaliberal]

10. They ARE dying. The vaccination death rate is very very low.

[dchill]

6. It's a defensive reaction.

I'll get over it when they either stop it or die.

[thucythucy]

7. I'm sick of these folks putting my life

and the lives of my loved ones at added risk.

Now we're being warned about a possible mutation that can sidestep the vaccine, sending us back to when lockdowns were the only way to stay safe, and all because these folks can't be bothered to do the right thing.

I don't wish anyone dead, but I sure wish they'd stop their antisocial and narcissist behavior before things get even worse for all of us.

[Scrivener7]

9. The herculean efforts that have been made to prevent the other side's death is proof that

no one is "wishing" for it.

But I and many others have accepted the fact that they will not avail themselves of those efforts.

Because of that, at this point, the best case scenario for the human race is if Delta rips through the population as fast as possible and infects as many unvaccinated as possible as quickly as possible. This MIGHT keep a variant that is resistant to vaccines from taking hold and it MIGHT lead to herd immunity.

As it is, the vaccine refusers are acting as incubators for variants and are putting the rest of us at risk of a much worse version of this virus that we can imagine.

They are willfully putting the rest of us in danger of death.

It is not the other way around.

[SharonClark]

39. Well said.

[Throck]

11. What gets me is the health care workers who won't get vaccinated?

Some are front line workers who worked pre vax too. Are they suffering from PTSD or do they distrust Trump's administration that much?

The mental health breakdown during the pandemic has been incredible.

[Deuxcents]

12. I don't wish death on anyone

I do wish TFG would blow a gasket.

[NH Ethylene]

71. He is my sole exception to my 'don't wish people dead' rule. n/t

[Sympthsical]

13. It feels like half this site is just celebrating death

It's very strange to watch.

As a well-adjusted person who does not wish death on political opponents or think people should die because they're dumb (or seek validation from the internet), I can't say it's terrifically pleasant.

It's the social media bubble. People get into them and become worse versions of themselves because worst instincts are constantly reinforced.

It's not like anyone's reinforcing the idea of volunteering at a soup kitchen (that would also involve, you know, doing something). It's always, "Why we hate X right now! Click click click."

Hatred is an addiction, and addicts will justify their fix.

I don't get how people don't recognize how mentally unhealthy this all is. But partisanship married to social media has been on this path for a long time now.

"This country is going to have a Civil War! Blargle!!!!" Oh, going to fight that one from your office chair, too?

[tonedevil]

25. If someone purposely puts themselves...

on the death train in order to put me in my place I'm not sure how I am supposed to feel. Good for you that you are all well adjusted and stuff.

[Sympthsical]

41. Or maybe it's not about you

The internet isn't real life.

People make their choices. It seems most people think all these anti-vaxxers are a bunch of Trumpists. It's a fiction manufactured for partisan use. As a person in the Bay Area, believe me, I've been dealing with Jenny McCarthy fall out for years. A school teacher who refused to get vaccinated or wear a mask was canned from school. Did that make DU? Seems like the perfect story to land here, no?

Ah, was in Marin and involved Democrats. Well, nevermind then.

If you think all these people are out to "own the libs" it makes it a lot easier to hate them. So we only hear about those people. When a study came out about the poor vaccination rates in the Black community, people freaked out, called it all racist, and shut that conversation down pronto.

But I thought we wanted to have a conversation about vaccination and what we can do to help?

Or maybe - and bear with me here - people are just getting their partisan rocks off with all of this? Seems to me, people who cared solely about vaccines and rates would be going after all aspects of the problem, not just the Trumpists on Twitter and cable news. Once I saw a whole thread full of people high-fiving over a teenager's accidental death - it wasn't even a Covid thing - I knew the psychology in the bubble had changed. Death has become almost desirable for political opponents.

Behavior reveals. And the celebratory behavior and laser focus on one aspect of the vaccine problem has certainly been revealing.

When people show you who they are, believe them.

[tonedevil]

55. I'm just not a good person like you. /nt

[NH Ethylene]

72. Wow! Good points. n/t

[Just_Vote_Dem]

26. My sister is dying from Covid

And i almost had her talked into the vaccination, but my nieces put a stop to that-If she passes, somehow I bet they make me the bad guy

[Sympthsical]

31. Well, that's on them

I'm sorry to hear it.

A few years ago, my family was in a similar situation. Father got a cold or something. It progressed. My mom told him maybe go to the ER. I called from California, heard how he sounded, and urged him to go to ER. My brother did similarly.

But he insisted. Just wanted to get through Christmas. He got through Christmas. Then went into pneumonia, a ventilator, then sepsis, then dead.

We did what we could to urge him, but people make their choices.

If the children are angry, well, they're grieving. I'd just leave it alone. As long as you know you did the right thing.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

33. Thank you, I appreciate it

And sorry for your loss.

[NH Ethylene]

30. Totally agree. n/t

[SharonClark]

42. I, too, am a well-adjusted person but I'm not seeing all the posts

you apparently are, that wish death on the ignorant unvaccinated. I mostly see posts about karma and not caring if they die. That is hardly "wishing" for death.

[leftstreet]

48. +1

The knee-jerk lack of compassion prevents people from looking for solutions

[Devil Child]

59. +1 Sympthsical

Lots of haterade being chugged and happily passed about.

[atreides1]

14. No!!!

I still believe in the things that they hate...

The other side is the side who would put my grandchildren in camps, because they're not white enough, or "Christian" enough, or won't kiss their asses...

If enough of them would just die, maybe this country can move forward...

[stillcool]

15. I don't have another side

to wish death upon, probably because I am no better, nor worse than anyone. I've got some nice vibes going.

[NH Ethylene]

29. +1

[SYFROYH]

16. It doesn't appear a lot of us here are better than that.

[maxsolomon]

17. "shame shaming", the rude pundit called it this week.

frustration with belligerent, intransigent adult children is a natural reaction.

their goal is to drag you into the mire with them. i just wish they'd have the courage of their convictions and stay out of the ICUs when they're dying.

[Sympthsical]

34. There's a difference between shaming and glee

And it isn't even a difficult one to spot.

[maxsolomon]

51. Yes, of course. Some go too far with their Schandenfreude.

You see the same impulse on display in DU comments wishing extrajudicial punishment (beatings, rape) for men sent to prison. Mostly they're knee-jerk reactions that the commenter didn't put a great deal of thought into.

"Shame Shaming", however, refers to shaming people for shaming anti-vaxxers. Kind of like this OP, but not precisely.

[malaise]

18. I don't wish anyone death

but if and when they're 'Cained', I have no tears left to shed. My tears are for those who believe in reason, science and knowledge. If you're part of the fuckfacts posse, don't expect sympathy or empathy from me.

[dalton99a]

21. Evil sadists deserve no sympathy.

[dalton99a]

19. When people who want to kill you decide to commit suicide, let them.

[malaise]

23. Correct is right

[Nay]

58. Yup.

[BlueWavePsych]

20. No need to wish ...

[LexVegas]

22. Bullshit. nt

[harumph]

24. What a load of horseshit.

If they ever get total control, people like us will be excluded at best,
locked up, or outright executed. Peddle your virtue signaling elsewhere.

[NH Ethylene]

27. It's depressing on DU lately with so many posters spewing hatred and/or cheering on mass death.

I know it's cathartic, but it is a dark indulgence, one that hurts yourself and does nothing to or about the so-called enemy.

It also shows a lack of perspective. Much of our outlook is shaped by our environment. If you had been born and raised in Mississippi, let's say, YOU would be an anti-vaccer. That would not make you evil. Your outlook would be problematic for yourself and others, but it would make sense to you. We can complain about you, try to regulate to change your actions upon these beliefs, and be angry that your opinions affect others. But we should not hate you and hope that you die so we can feel gleefully smug.

Try to remember, 'There but for the grace of the gods go I.'

[Just_Vote_Dem]

35. Thank you.

It's depressing reading DU these days. Maybe I should just stick to the Lounge.

[harumph]

36. Epitaph for a person killed by crazy nationalists, evangelicals, et al: "At least I went high..."

Your comment is abysmally relativistic. Of course (if) I'd been born into an evangelical etc., etc., (Oh wait! I was and somehow
escaped and I'm not fucked in the head!). Not being smug - I'm actually afraid of these fuckers and what they would do if
they ever get absolute power. Need a hint - look at Texas. So every one who dies of this shit out of ignorance - every delusional
motherfucker - yes - it would be better if they couldn't vote - and the only way that's happening is if they're dead.

[Elessar Zappa]

54. My whole family

is from Mississippi and none are anti-vaxxers. Why? Because they aren’t idiots.

[elevator]

65. I was born and raised in Georgia, just as southern as Miss. I'm not anti-vax.

Catharsis is often a good thing and it can facilitate perspective.

(There but for the grace of god (s) go I) implies all things being equal, there is an element of luck, but really, the betting odds on not being vaxed and getting sick stacked.

If many people didn't overcome and move beyond the shortsighted and self damaging beliefs offered in parts of our culture, that would be problematic.

[NH Ethylene]

70. The element of luck was for what kind of subculture you are born into.

Not whether or not you get Covid when unvaccinated.

Statistics show that children usually grow up and hold the same political beliefs of their parents. There are exceptions of course.

[johnp3907]

32. They're literally trying to kill us.

Not wishing them dead is a suicidal attitude. An attitude that actually helps them kill us, in fact. Therefore if you you don’t (at the very least) wish them dead you’ve already gone beyond “become like them.” You ARE them!

[tonedevil]

37. I can't feel anything...

except contempt for them. In the words of Ebenezer Scrooge they should go ahead and die to decrease the surplus population.

[nolabear]

38. I agree. I won't be that. I wish many things for them

and I absolutely get the rage and fear that leads to it. I’m furious. But I’m Biden furious. Deny them access to the rest of us if they don’t get the vaccine. Then it’s their choice as to how isolated they—not we—have to be. But I will not become the kind of person who does what they do, simply wish pain and death on another.

[WA-03 Democrat]

43. I'm Biden mad too!

We know these people have been brainwashed. We know how they changed with social media and the lying former guy. I do hate the sin but cannot hate the sinner. I am pro life and pro humanity.

[CrackityJones75]

40. wow.

When you come into a place and intimate that we are ANYTHING at all like them…..


I would get a hide and a ban for saying what’s on my mind.

[Irish_Dem]

44. We're trying to save their damn lives. And the lives of their kids.

Get vaccinated, wear a mask.

They are the ones hell bent on death.

[StarfishSaver]

45. Thank you

[TheProle]

46. Are we wishing death on Biden voters, too?

There was a much-ballyhooed NBC piece on August 24th that noted 91% of Biden voters are vaccinated. That's a terrific stat, but the remaining 9% of his 81,268,924 voters comes out to about 7.3 million unvaccinated.

[maxsolomon]

53. I believe that mainly we're wishing they'd fucking get vaccinated already.

I haven't actually seen these posts wishing death on the unvaxxed. I've seen posts expressing a lack of sympathy at their passing, sure.

All this needless death, all the unpleasant measures we have to take, the constant daily focus on it, the job losses, the lack of social contact - it's all traumatizing every one of us.

It is the refusers who are forcing this Fatalism on the rest of us. Saying F them is a natural reaction.

[CrackityJones75]

56. Who the hell is wishing death on people?

Saying you don’t have tears for idiots that choose death over vaccination is NOT wishing death upon anyone. Fucking hell, we have had 18 months of our lives disrupted mainly because these morons won’t get on the train and do the right thing and whats more they attack us for doing the right thing. And here is a thread chastising US for being a little pissed off and fed up with it. I can almost understand a bunch of fucking morons attacking us. They are idiots. But to come here and get chastised? What the fuck?

[Bettie]

47. I don't wish harm on them

but I don't care if they choose death.

They can deal with the consequences of their poor decision making.

[NH Ethylene]

73. I think most - if not all - of us feel this way.

It's disturbing though when the comments pass that and actually celebrate their deaths and wish they all die that way. That's what I've been seeing on some of these threads.

[Vinca]

50. We're not necessarily wishing them death, but their stupidity is killing us and that's where

many of us draw the line. At this point I don't care if they live or die.

[harumph]

52. I would rather them die b/c they're just as likely to start some other

stupid shit to torment us. Not saying I would push them over a cliff, but that I'm not going to
try and stop them - nor get close enough to the cliff's edge. Been there done that.
Tried to talk sense to a few. Didn't work. On top of that, my wife is a nurse and is exposed to this stupidity
almost daily. Although she is vaccinated and takes every precaution - she still could get sick and die
due to these intransigently stupid people. I think it's perfectly normal to wish people dead. "Wishing"
doesn't make things come true. People that have a problem with "indecent thoughts" typically believe that there is
some kind of magic about thought. While it's true that thoughts are powerful inasmuch as they motivate -
or shed new light on problems, their power is limited. Not one anti-vaxxer is going to drop dead by me
saying out loud or wishing that they do so.

[Dawson Leery]

57. FDR and Churchill were much wiser than to appease their enemies

who intended to kill them.

Though in this case, the trash is taking itself out.

[wellst0nev0ter]

60. My dad died from Covid

I have absolutely no sympathy for those who refuse to do the bare minimum to prevent community spread of the disease.

No, I don't wish that the anti-maskers or the anti-vaxxers drop dead, but I won't shed a tear if they do.

As far as I'm concerned, they killed my dad.

[JustAnotherGen]

61. I don't care

I seriously don't care about the unvaxxed - I just don't want them clogging up hospitals and keeping people with treatable ailments out of the ER/ICU.

They don't believe in science - then they don't believe in medicine. They need to have the courage of their convictions to stay out of the way of those who protected themselves - but have other health issues to worry about.

[Javaman]

62. I don't wish death on anyone...

however, if the right wing antivaxx, anti mask morons get covid and drop dead, I won't shed a fucking tear.

they have access to the very same information we do, yet choose to ignore it at their own peril. And side with grifting con artists for their information instead.

[48656c6c6f20]

63. When you wish the other side death, you're correct.

They have done nothing but tried to remove your pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness. So it's well deserved.

[ShazzieB]

64. I honestly don't WISH anyone dead.

I have simply run out of fucks to give about grown ass adults who get sick and die due to refusing to take a SAFE, EFFECTIVE, AND FREE vaccine. After a year and a half of worrying about getting sick myself and reading about the horrendous suffering that goes with dying from covid, the stress hospitals and health care workers are under, and on and on, I am just plain worn out.

I feel sorry for kids who are not old enough to be vaxxed or who aren't vaccinated because they have antivaxxer parents. I feel sorry for those who are immunocompromised and have to either navigate a minefield of antivaxxers and maskholes or stay at home all the time. But people who get seriously ill or due due to willfully refusing the vaccine get no pity from me. Pity is for disasters that are out of one's control. When someone makes a conscious choice that leads to a bad outcome that could easily have been avoided, I have a very hard time finding a fuck to give, especially when it comes to covidiots who refuse to take the virus seriously until it's too late.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

66. Friedrich W. Nietzsche:

"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you."

[NH Ethylene]

74. Wish words. n/t

[raptor_rider]

67. Karma is a major bitch

What ills you wish on others, you’ll get 10 fold back at ya. Careful what you wish for fuckers

[roamer65]

69. 99 percent of them are fascists.

Fuck em.